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  • #16
    Don't waste your time trying to explain it to them. When people ask me what I do for a living, I tell them I'm retired. When they ask what I use to do, I say I was a professional cigar smoker <g>.

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    • Karel
      Administrator
      • Sep 2003
      • 2199

      #17
      Yes, eerie experience. Obviously they wanted you to join the Oooh and Aaah chorus, and you wanted to talk business instead. Will they ever forgive you?

      Communication might be impossible indeed. If there are people in the group you care (a little bit more) for, you could try a one-on-one. That might work better than in a group. But this has all the risks that accompany unasked for advice, and after a bad beginning too. Tread carefully, or stay away.

      Did Cramer give a target price?

      Regards,

      Karel
      My Investopedia portfolio
      (You need to have a (free) Investopedia or Facebook login, sorry!)

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      • lemonjello
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2005
        • 447

        #18
        Boooooooyah

        Does this sound like a market top behavior. The whole Cramer thing seems like something that happens before a crash.

        Maybe not.



        Originally posted by Shadow
        Fast forward to yesterday. One of the ladies at the cookout asked me
        to stop by yesterday. Talk about being blind sided. There sits this group
        of ladies who have all opened brokerage accounts this week.
        Surprise.....surprise! They each have a stock their going to buy (how
        quaint). Now I’m still trying to figure out what they want from me
        when they start telling me about their stocks. Had anyone performed
        any FA or TA research? NO! Why were they buying them....... because
        Cramer said so. The conversation wasn’t one of my more fun ones. I
        tried to encourage them to educate themselves...... they don’t think
        they need to and don't want to spend that much time..... Cramer is
        soooooo smart. They think they have the next Walmart and Google.
        I told them if it was that easy we would all have Gates' and Buffet’s
        money. I explained that I’ve studied for years and still have lots to
        learn. It was all a useless effort.

        I’ve had 4 phone calls this morning already. Thank goodness for caller
        ID because I’m not taking those calls! Bets on how long it takes them
        to lose half of it?

        I think I fell into the twilight zone.
        Shadow
        Donate: Salvation Army
        Help: Any Soldier
        Read: Fred on Everything

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Karel
          Did Cramer give a target price?
          Target price......I did ask.... they asked what's a
          target price?

          I did suggest a few books and paper trading; they disregarded
          that idea.

          I guess I won't be invited to the next cookout!

          Lemonjello: You may be right!

          Maybe I'll take Dave's advice and raid my husband's humidor.

          Shadow

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          • gerihearne
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2005
            • 227

            #20
            great story

            Originally posted by Shadow
            I did suggest a few books and paper trading; they disregarded
            that idea.

            Shadow
            Enjoyed your story ... sounds like you would be better off pulling a steckler .. lol ..

            Shadow, what books did you/do you suggest?

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            • #21
              Originally posted by gerihearne
              Shadow, what books did you/do you suggest?
              That question made me chuckle. Those ladies didn't even
              know the most basic of terms and which way was right side
              up on a chart. They need to start with the VERY basics first.
              So......I recommended "Investing for Dummies". It seemed
              like a good place for them to start. LOL

              Now.... let's hear from the crowd here.
              What are your favorite stock market books?

              Shadow

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              • gerihearne
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2005
                • 227

                #22
                it's raining madness, alleluiah!

                I had to check my calendar .. is it May already? Those showers are turning into dollars
                But no elation here, steady as she goes ...

                Shadow, the dummies book is on my list. This business is tough. Kudos to all of you!!

                Warmest,
                Geri

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Shadow
                  That question made me chuckle. Those ladies didn't even
                  know the most basic of terms and which way was right side
                  up on a chart. They need to start with the VERY basics first.
                  So......I recommended "Investing for Dummies". It seemed
                  like a good place for them to start. LOL

                  Now.... let's hear from the crowd here.
                  What are your favorite stock market books?

                  Shadow
                  "24 Essential Lessions for Investment Success," William O'Neil

                  "Dave Landry on Swing Trading," David Landry

                  "Technical Analysis, A Personal Seminar," NY Institute of Finance

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by gerihearne
                    I had to check my calendar .. is it May already? Those showers are turning into dollars
                    But no elation here, steady as she goes ...

                    Shadow, the dummies book is on my list. This business is tough. Kudos to all of you!!

                    Warmest,
                    Geri

                    It is a good book for starting out. You're right...it is a hard
                    business and they need to at least learn what a MA is. It's
                    all I can do to keep up with my own market education; they
                    are on their own!

                    I'm glad your showers are turning into dollars. I had a good day
                    yesterday but my screen is very red this morning. Can you send
                    some of those showers my way?

                    Shadow

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                    • Lyehopper
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 3678

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Shadow
                      I thought I would relay this story......more as a way to vent than
                      anything else. It’s not an April shower; more like a thunderstorm.

                      I’ve been following the market and investing for many years but
                      a few years back I began to pick up my pace and became a lot
                      more involved on the technical side. The results have been worth
                      all the work / education involved and my investing has improved.
                      As you all know it takes a lot of work, study and experience to
                      even began to know 10% of it and the learning never stops.
                      I still have lots of learning to do.

                      Over time friends and family have picked up that I’m really into
                      the market. We’ve been at get togethers and you know how that
                      goes....... the men in this corner talking and the ladies in this corner.
                      Some man will begin discussing the market and look at my husband,
                      he will reply don’t look at me, my wife’s the market person at our
                      house, ask her. It usually stops the conversation right there. A few
                      chuckles about the little lady and her milk and egg money. Grrrrrr!!!!
                      As a result we usually try to steer clear of any and all market talk.

                      This weekend we were invited to a cookout. Everyone was having a
                      good time and THEN some idiot started talking. The main idea I
                      got was this........ “ cute the little lady plays with her stock. I guess
                      it keeps her out of trouble; my wife just spends hers at the mall. They
                      just have to spend it somehow.” I actually can’t remember the last time
                      I was so furious! Luckily my husband was smart enough to step in before
                      my temper cut loose and explained I was doing VERY well. Percentages
                      do have a way of shutting CPA’s up!

                      Fast forward to yesterday. One of the ladies at the cookout asked me
                      to stop by yesterday. Talk about being blind sided. There sits this group
                      of ladies who have all opened brokerage accounts this week.
                      Surprise.....surprise! They each have a stock their going to buy (how
                      quaint). Now I’m still trying to figure out what they want from me
                      when they start telling me about their stocks. Had anyone performed
                      any FA or TA research? NO! Why were they buying them....... because
                      Cramer said so. The conversation wasn’t one of my more fun ones. I
                      tried to encourage them to educate themselves...... they don’t think
                      they need to and don't want to spend that much time..... Cramer is
                      soooooo smart. They think they have the next Walmart and Google.
                      I told them if it was that easy we would all have Gates' and Buffet’s
                      money. I explained that I’ve studied for years and still have lots to
                      learn. It was all a useless effort.

                      I’ve had 4 phone calls this morning already. Thank goodness for caller
                      ID because I’m not taking those calls! Bets on how long it takes them
                      to lose half of it?

                      I think I fell into the twilight zone.
                      Shadow
                      LOL.... I have an idea Shadow. Answer the phone!.... Don't alianate your client base! Convince them you're a very good stock picker and then tell them that your time is valuable and you'll have to charge them a little (side fee) for advise. Crammer gets paid to throw chairs around right?.... Why not you?

                      Then you can take your "side fee" dollars and play the WTAMC with Doug and me.... hehehe

                      WoW look at my ECOL!!!! HOT, HOT, HOT!!!!
                      BEEF!... it's whats for dinner!

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Lyehopper
                        LOL.... I have an idea Shadow. Answer the phone!.... Don't alianate your client base! Convince them you're a very good stock picker and then tell them that your time is valuable and you'll have to charge them a little (side fee) for advise. Crammer gets paid to throw chairs around right?.... Why not you?

                        Then you can take your "side fee" dollars and play the WTAMC with Doug and me.... hehehe

                        WoW look at my ECOL!!!! HOT, HOT, HOT!!!!

                        LOL, good point Lye. I'll keep your advice in mind.

                        I'll make you a deal; I'll cheer for your ECOL if you cheer for
                        my AIRM. I'm a few %'s from a double. A little cheering might
                        help or was that goji?

                        Shadow

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                        • gerihearne
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2005
                          • 227

                          #27
                          may flowers?

                          I'm glad your showers are turning into dollars. I had a good day
                          yesterday but my screen is very red this morning. Can you send
                          some of those showers my way?

                          Shadow[/QUOTE]

                          Hey, Shadow .. have a look at egn and aace ...
                          and of course, i'm also following the great and wonderful $$$mrmarketishuge$$$

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                          • gerihearne
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2005
                            • 227

                            #28
                            had another thought

                            Originally posted by gerihearne
                            I'm glad your showers are turning into dollars. I had a good day
                            yesterday but my screen is very red this morning. Can you send
                            some of those showers my way?

                            Shadow
                            Hey, Shadow .. have a look at egn and aace ...
                            and of course, i'm also following the great and wonderful $$$mrmarketishuge$$$[/QUOTE]


                            maybe it's just that my picks aren't s---ing so much ... that they actually look good to me

                            i think once my portfolio hits 15% up, i'm going to go to cash for awhile ...
                            my problem is the ONLY way i learn most things is by doing ... so, i've been doing .. maybe your ladies are the same way? learn by doing?

                            lol

                            i love lye's idea about making money off them ... leave it to the renaissance man to come up with that one!
                            go PARL

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by gerihearne
                              i think once my portfolio hits 15% up, i'm going to go to cash for awhile ...
                              my problem is the ONLY way i learn most things is by doing ... so, i've been doing .. maybe your ladies are the same way? learn by doing?

                              i love lye's idea about making money off them ... leave it to the renaissance man to come up with that one!
                              go PARL


                              Thanks for the tips and hopefully that shower will get here soon!

                              I agree, I learn my doing myself. These ladies don't want to
                              learn. They want to buy a stock because someone like Cramer
                              said so and then spend the day at the country club discussing
                              their wonderful stocks. No time for learning and DD.

                              I haven't returned those phone calls. I guess it's safe to say
                              I'm off the BBQ invitation list now. Maybe Lye will put me on
                              his BBQ list if I bring the Harley?

                              Shadow

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                              • Lyehopper
                                Senior Member
                                • Jan 2004
                                • 3678

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Shadow
                                Thanks for the tips and hopefully that shower will get here soon!

                                I agree, I learn my doing myself. These ladies don't want to
                                learn. They want to buy a stock because someone like Cramer
                                said so and then spend the day at the country club discussing
                                their wonderful stocks. No time for learning and DD.

                                I haven't returned those phone calls. I guess it's safe to say
                                I'm off the BBQ invitation list now. Maybe Lye will put me on
                                his BBQ list if I bring the Harley?

                                Shadow
                                LOL.... Yeah, I love to invite Harley trash over to my cookouts!!!!.... Heck Shadow, you're only an hour or so from me! Come on over! Just leave that HUUUUGE old dog of yours back in the Shenandoah Valley.lol
                                BEEF!... it's whats for dinner!

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