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MTEX ==> The Columbus Day Winner
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MTEX being probed...
Texas Attorney General probing Mannatech
October 27, 2006 10:29:00 (ET)
SAN DIEGO (MarketWatch) -- The Texas Attorney General's office is investigating and has considered taking legal action against Mannatech, a fast-growing manufacturer of nutritional supplements, whose stock has been one of the year's sizzlers.
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Guest repliedin at 15.50. stupid move? we'll see...
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Guest repliedThanks jc4fun3 for you info on MTEX. Because of your postings I got a better idea of the nature of this company and stayed away. Wise move (at least today).
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Here's another: http://www.marketamerica.com/Originally posted by billyjoe View PostStudent and New-born,
Amway/Alticor/Quixtar/The Business has been peddling it's wares or distributorships since 1959. An FTC probe determined that 2 in 1,000 distributorships made $47,000 per year and 1 in 10,000 made $72,000 per year. I'll take stock market odds over that any day.
Also 80% of 6 billion revenues is foreign, mostly from China.
---------------billyjoe
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Thanks for the sobering information. What a bunch of CROOKS!Originally posted by billyjoe View PostStudent and New-born,
Amway/Alticor/Quixtar/The Business has been peddling it's wares or distributorships since 1959. An FTC probe determined that 2 in 1,000 distributorships made $47,000 per year and 1 in 10,000 made $72,000 per year. I'll take stock market odds over that any day.
Also 80% of 6 billion revenues is foreign, mostly from China.
---------------billyjoe
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Student and New-born,Originally posted by studentofthemarket View PostWell the main thing is that the "sellers" are all also the "buyers". Very few end users that I've ever seen.
I got suckered into going to a Ixtar(or whatever they call Internet AMWAY) meeting. What a load of crap that was. When asked what I thought of the program. I said "sounds like an internet based amway scam". Boooooyyy did they get torqued.
most important thing for a company. Have customers for whatever they're selling. Second? Have repeat customers. Just ask Peter Lynch
Third? make profits. and do so legally.
student
Amway/Alticor/Quixtar/The Business has been peddling it's wares or distributorships since 1959. An FTC probe determined that 2 in 1,000 distributorships made $47,000 per year and 1 in 10,000 made $72,000 per year. I'll take stock market odds over that any day.
Also 80% of 6 billion revenues is foreign, mostly from China.
---------------billyjoe
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Well the main thing is that the "sellers" are all also the "buyers". Very few end users that I've ever seen.Originally posted by New-born baby View PostThat business model cannot survive. Some discounter will always undercut it and it will have to morph or disappear. And it needs to disappear.
I got suckered into going to a Ixtar(or whatever they call Internet AMWAY) meeting. What a load of crap that was. When asked what I thought of the program. I said "sounds like an internet based amway scam". Boooooyyy did they get torqued.
most important thing for a company. Have customers for whatever they're selling. Second? Have repeat customers. Just ask Peter Lynch
Third? make profits. and do so legally.
student
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There are Manna Bears...I still have some uneaten ones in my house:
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That business model cannot survive. Some discounter will always undercut it and it will have to morph or disappear. And it needs to disappear.Originally posted by billyjoe View PostNew-born,
I don't want to get political here , but do you realize that Richard DeVos , republican candidate for governor of Michigan is an executive and son of billionnaire founder of Amway (now Alticor) they also go under another name. Anything to distance themselves from Amway. DeVos has unlimited funds and really believes the Amway model is the way this country should do business. This guy is dangerous.
-------------billyjoe
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New-born,
I don't want to get political here , but do you realize that Richard DeVos , republican candidate for governor of Michigan is an executive and son of billionnaire founder of Amway (now Alticor) they also go under another name. Anything to distance themselves from Amway. DeVos has unlimited funds and really believes the Amway model is the way this country should do business. This guy is dangerous.
-------------billyjoe
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Guest repliedI believe your chart says it all. Buy at the 200 day, not here. If the fundamentals haven't changed and Andrew Left hasn't focused on the company (or someone like him), then why not buy it when its on sale?Originally posted by New-born baby View Post
BTW...I have a couple of hunting buddies who drank the koolaid and sell this stuff. They are seemily intelligent guys but they actually believe the bs about "soil depletion" and how the stuff they peddle is the only thing that can replace those lost minerals and nutrients. ONe of them also claims that his little bout of impotence was cured by this miracle substance.
My understanding of the company is that its a classic pyramid scheme along the lines of avon, amway, etc. Nothing illegal about it but the company does push the envelope as witnessed by those court cases. And one could argue that wall street is nothing but a huge pyramid scheme and that the company has a great business model, ie they don't have to hire salesmen to push their snake oil. And we all know how well crap sells in this country with the right marketing.
Bottom line, the stock may do fine in the short-term (heck, in the longer term who knows?)
ps..its manna bars, not bears. The manna bears haven't shown up in numbers yet, but you don't want to be left holding the bag when Left does a little piece on this one.
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