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  • New-born baby
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2004
    • 6095

    #46
    Monday's take

    Well, here's my view of TWGP for now. Looking like she's going to
    test $27.50-$25, imho. Ringo, I'd be buying a put IF TWGP falls below $30, or more likely, look to take profits now.

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    • IIC
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2003
      • 14938

      #47
      Originally posted by ringo69 View Post
      Thanks, I have been considering downside protection with puts on MM picks. My own conspiracy theory - it almost seems like there is someone or several people trading against MM picks in the short term.

      I rather doubt that there is any conspiracy...But if there was then I'd say Mr. M made it to the top...I'd love it if there was a conspiracy against the IIC 100...That'd be SUPER...I can hear SKI and Peanuts chanting now..."Short The IIC 100...Short The IIC 100...Short The IIC 100"...
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      • ringo69
        Member
        • Mar 2006
        • 51

        #48
        Originally posted by IIC View Post
        I rather doubt that there is any conspiracy...But if there was then I'd say Mr. M made it to the top...I'd love it if there was a conspiracy against the IIC 100...That'd be SUPER...I can hear SKI and Peanuts chanting now..."Short The IIC 100...Short The IIC 100...Short The IIC 100"...
        What the ticker symbol for IIC 100?
        Jesus looked at them and said, "With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26 NIV

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        • IIC
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2003
          • 14938

          #49
          Originally posted by ringo69 View Post
          What the ticker symbol for IIC 100?

          It changes everyday...Today it is MIKR...lol
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          • ringo69
            Member
            • Mar 2006
            • 51

            #50
            Originally posted by New-born baby View Post
            I don't buy into the conspiracy theory. MM is huge, but the market is huger.

            What I believe is happening is MM is picking momo stocks in a market that is flat. Good stocks will rebound. Look at AXR. Tremendous play. He should have shorted it for 30%, and then bought it for another 100%. When he picked it, I wrote on Hot Pick of the Day "don't." It had an ugly chart. But it rebounded.

            TWGP will probably do the same. In fact, as long as the CEO isn't a crook, all the MM picks rebound.

            NBB, Like I said its my own theory. I do see your point of the flat market affecting MM picks . . . but I know of two traders that specifically buy "trading systems" just to trade against them, and they are doing very well. The best example I can give to support my conspiracy theory is the Turtles. Their system worked very well until the method was released/exposed to the public. Now the turtles have people who trade against the turtle system, book have written, seminars on it, and so on. Thus, turtle soup. Yum Yum. This does not say the turtles system does not work anymore, but it is not as efficient as it once was when only a few people knew it.
            Jesus looked at them and said, "With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26 NIV

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            • New-born baby
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2004
              • 6095

              #51
              Originally posted by ringo69 View Post
              NBB, Like I said its my own theory. I do see your point of the flat market affecting MM picks . . . but I know of two traders that specifically buy "trading systems" just to trade against them, and they are doing very well. The best example I can give to support my conspiracy theory is the Turtles. Their system worked very well until the method was released/exposed to the public. Now the turtles have people who trade against the turtle system, book have written, seminars on it, and so on. Thus, turtle soup. Yum Yum. This does not say the turtles system does not work anymore, but it is not as efficient as it once was when only a few people knew it.
              Okay. That is information I didn't have before. Turtle soup, eh? You could very well be correct. Thanks for the info.
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              • jiesen
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2003
                • 5321

                #52
                Tower Group, Inc. Will Acquire Preserver Group, Inc.

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                Tower Group, Inc. Will Acquire Preserver Group, Inc.

                Tuesday November 14, 8:45 am ET NEW YORK--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Tower Group, Inc. (NASDAQ: TWGP - News) announced today that it has reached an agreement to acquire the outstanding stock of Preserver Group, Inc. for cash consideration of approximately $68 million, a portion of which will be allocated to repay all shareholder owned debt. In addition, $12 million of trust preferred securities will be assumed. The transaction is subject to regulatory approval. Transaction Summary
                • Preserver is a privately held company that specializes in small commercial and personal lines insurance in the Northeast. The company offers similar products and has a similar risk appetite as Tower's.
                • The acquisition will give Tower access to up to 300 retail agencies working with Preserver that have little or no overlap with Tower's existing distribution.
                • The transaction enhances Tower's Northeast expansion plans with additional premium volume and scale. Preserver writes business in New Jersey, Maine, New York, New Hampshire, Massachusetts, Vermont, Rhode Island and Pennsylvania.
                • It is expected that Preserver will enter into a loss portfolio transfer agreement to reinsure its historical loss reserves with CastlePoint Re. CastlePoint Re is a reinsurance subsidiary of CastlePoint Holdings, Ltd., the formation of which was sponsored by Tower earlier this year.
                Michael Lee, President and Chief Executive Officer of Tower Group, Inc., commented, "We are pleased to announce this transaction which represents an extremely good fit for our regional strategy in the Northeast. Preserver has a similar underwriting appetite, and we plan to work closely with the Preserver management team and employees to deliver higher value to our combined agents and customers. To ensure continuity and further strengthen our management team, Pat Haveron of Preserver will be joining us as Senior Vice President and Chief Operating Officer. We anticipate expense ratio improvements from our larger scale and infrastructure. Consistent with our acquisition strategy, the transaction is expected to be modestly accretive to earnings per share in its first year."

                Patrick J. Haveron, President and Chief Executive Officer of Preserver Group, Inc. stated, "We look forward to contributing to the level of success that Tower has achieved. Both Tower and Preserver have a successful track record in these types of transactions, and we believe the combined operation will be well positioned to take advantage of opportunities in the Northeast. Preserver producers will benefit from an enhanced platform and grow with companies that are focused on customer service. We also believe this transaction will present significant opportunities for our employees and I look forward to joining Tower's successful leadership team."

                Tower also announced that CastlePoint Re has agreed to invest $40 million in convertible perpetual preferred stock of Tower Group, Inc.

                Guidance for 2007:
                We believe Tower Group, Inc.'s acquisition of Preserver Group, Inc. will be modestly accretive to earnings in 2007 and more significantly in future years. We anticipate net income in 2007 to be in a range between $54.6 million and $56.8 million and diluted earnings per share to be between $2.40 and $2.50 per diluted share.

                Conference Call

                Tower will host a conference call to discuss the transaction on Thursday, November 16, 2006 at 10:00 A.M. (Eastern Time). The domestic number is (800) 291-9234, international number is (617) 614-3923. All callers should enter the passcode 69116976 for the call.
                This conference call also will be broadcast live over the Internet. To access a listen-only webcast over the Internet, please visit the Investor Information section of Tower Group, Inc.'s website,
                (http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix....ventID=1418536)
                (Due to its length, this URL may need to be copied/pasted into your Internet browser's address field. Remove the extra space if one exists.)
                Please access the website at least 15 minutes prior to the call to register and to download any necessary audio software. This is a live event only, and there will be no replay.

                About Tower Group, Inc.

                Tower Group, Inc., headquartered in New York City, offers property and casualty insurance products and services through its insurance company and insurance service subsidiaries. Its two insurance company subsidiaries are Tower Insurance Company of New York which is rated A- (Excellent) by A.M. Best Company and offers commercial insurance products to small to medium-size businesses and personal insurance products to individuals and Tower National Insurance Company which is also rated A- (Excellent) by A.M. Best Company. Its insurance services subsidiary, Tower Risk Management, acts as a managing general agency, adjusts claims and negotiates reinsurance terms on behalf of other insurance companies.
                Cautionary Note Regarding Forward-Looking Statements
                The Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 provides a "safe harbor" for forward-looking statements. This release or any other written or oral statements made by or on behalf of the Company may include forward-looking statements that reflect the Company's current views with respect to future events and financial performance. All statements other than statements of historical fact included in this release are forward-looking statements. Forward-looking statements can generally be identified by the use of forward-looking terminology such as "may," "will," "plan," "expect," "intend," "estimate," "anticipate," "believe" or "continue" or their negative or variations or similar terminology. All forward-looking statements address matters that involve risks and uncertainties. Accordingly, there are or will be important factors that could cause our actual results to differ materially from those indicated in these statements. We believe that these factors include but are not limited to ineffectiveness or obsolescence of our business strategy due to changes in current or future market conditions; increased competition on the basis of pricing, capacity, coverage terms or other factors; greater frequency or severity of claims and loss activity, including as a result of natural or man-made catastrophic events, than our underwriting, reserving or investment practices anticipate based on historical experience or industry data; the effects of acts of terrorism or war; developments in the world's financial and capital markets that adversely affect the performance of our investments; changes in regulations or laws applicable to us, our subsidiaries, brokers or customers; changes in the level of demand for our insurance and reinsurance products and services, including new products and services; changes in the availability, cost or quality of reinsurance and failure of our reinsurers to pay claims timely or at all; loss of the services of any of our executive officers or other key personnel; the effects of mergers, acquisitions and divestitures; changes in rating agency policies or practices; changes in legal theories of liability under our insurance policies; changes in accounting policies or practices; and changes in general economic conditions, including inflation and other factors. Forward-looking statements speak only as of the date on which they are made, and the Company undertakes no obligation to update publicly or revise any forward-looking statement, whether as a result of new information, future developments or otherwise.

                Regarding the transactions described above, we would add the following cautions to those included in our filings with the SEC:
                • the transaction may not occur as expected or it may take longer to accomplish than we expect;
                • governmental approvals of the transaction may not be obtained, or adverse regulatory conditions may be imposed in connection with governmental approvals of the transaction;
                • we may not be as successful as we anticipate in managing the integration of Preserver, including with respect to realizing cost savings and distributing our products through Preserver's agencies;
                • the sale is subject to the satisfaction or waiver of certain conditions which are beyond our control; and
                • adverse conditions in the capital markets may make it more expensive for us or limit our ability to raise capital to support this acquisition and other growth opportunities.
                For more information visit Tower's website at http://www.twrgrp.com/.

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                • mrmarket
                  Administrator
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 5971

                  #53
                  nice little pop today, eh?
                  =============================

                  I am HUGE! Bring me your finest meats and cheeses.

                  - $$$MR. MARKET$$$

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                  • jiesen
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 5321

                    #54
                    quite nice! Of course most stocks got a nice little lift today...

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                    • peanuts
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2006
                      • 3365

                      #55
                      The day is today, the time is now.

                      Great analysis, NBB. I always knew you were a genius!

                      Originally posted by New-born baby View Post
                      Well, here's my view of TWGP for now. Looking like she's going to
                      test $27.50-$25, imho.
                      Hide not your talents.
                      They for use were made.
                      What's a sundial in the shade?

                      - Benjamin Franklin

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                      • riverbabe
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2005
                        • 3373

                        #56
                        Originally posted by peanuts View Post
                        The day is today, the time is now.

                        Great analysis, NBB. I always knew you were a genius!
                        Yes, what a true genius! But why today? Why not tomorrow? It hasn't actually hit 27.50 yet.
                        I don't see any reason why it shouldn't keep going down. Just interested. I see a little buying propping it up right now. Is that YOU peanuts??? LOL River

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                        • peanuts
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2006
                          • 3365

                          #57
                          Originally posted by riverbabe View Post
                          Yes, what a true genius! But why today? Why not tomorrow? It hasn't actually hit 27.50 yet.
                          I don't see any reason why it shouldn't keep going down. Just interested. I see a little buying propping it up right now. Is that YOU peanuts??? LOL River

                          http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=TWG...d=p15012825181
                          hehehehe

                          no, no, no, I'm just little peanuts. Remember that. Who knows, maybe $27.50 will hit? You playin ball?
                          Hide not your talents.
                          They for use were made.
                          What's a sundial in the shade?

                          - Benjamin Franklin

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                          • riverbabe
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2005
                            • 3373

                            #58
                            Originally posted by peanuts View Post
                            hehehehe

                            no, no, no, I'm just little peanuts. Remember that. Who knows, maybe $27.50 will hit? You playin ball?
                            Probably not this minute. I really lightened up yesterday (and a good thing I did!). I see the market having lots of sharp down days for the next few weeks. I'm in capital protection mode. I need to do some DD on this stock before making a commitment. But I'm-a watchin'. Does MM still own this?

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                            • New-born baby
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2004
                              • 6095

                              #59
                              Originally posted by riverbabe View Post
                              Probably not this minute. I really lightened up yesterday (and a good thing I did!). I see the market having lots of sharp down days for the next few weeks. I'm in capital protection mode. I need to do some DD on this stock before making a commitment. But I'm-a watchin'. Does MM still own this?
                              Of course He always owns until he gets his 15%.
                              I would not suggest buying here. It looks like it is going lower.
                              pivot calculator *current oil price*My stock picking method*Charting Lesson of the Week:BEAR FLAG PATTERN

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                              • riverbabe
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2005
                                • 3373

                                #60
                                Originally posted by New-born baby View Post
                                Of course He always owns until he gets his 15%.
                                I would not suggest buying here. It looks like it is going lower.
                                I agree, MrGenius. You are HUGE!

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