A Humble Request

[IIC]

When Rob first started this thread, I don't think he was being hyper-sensitive at all. He politely explained that profanity bothers him and made a humble request. I suppose you could say (as you did) that he is being hypersensitive about the response he has received. However, in response, I would say that some of the initial responses to Rob in this thread were hyper-insensitive. Is it really that difficult to give up using foul language when politely asked to do so?

While I agree, especially in light of the recent new thread about profanity begun by Karel, that there really isn't a huge problem with profanity here, if a member is bothered by it and asks others to stop, what's wrong with that? On the other hand, I do see something wrong when, after being asked to refrain from using such language, to write posts containing exactly the language that is offensive.

This can be applied to anything, not just profanity. Hypothetically speaking, imagine your friend is doing something that bothers you and you politely ask that friend to stop. How do you respond if, instead of stopping, your friend does exactly the behavior that is bothering you? My guess is that you leave. Are you then being hyper-sensitive? Or are you just removing yourself from a situation that bothers you?

I'm not putting him down...But I do not agree that profanity is a problem here...at least I fail to see it. Actually, I'm surprised at Karel's results...I didn't even think there was as much as his scan found.

I said that Rob had the right to ask...But I really think he should be directing his concerns to the people who run this forum...They are really the only ones that have any power to do anything about it anyway.

I'd like some examples...I don't even know who he is talking about?...Best, Doug

Hyper-Sensitive ... or not?

You might be right Mary...But I don't see Rob posting anymore about this....How about some examples.

Here's my take...I like Rob...I think he's a great guy...But I also think he's being hyper-sensitive.

I do not think profanity is a problem at this forum. I moderate some small forums and I used to moderate the Yahoo Canslim StockPicks Forum that had over 2,000 members. There were certain words that I would not and do not tolerate. There are other words that may be offensive to some but that I do/did tolerate because they are words that many people use in everyday life....For those that used the words on my ban list I would send 2 warnings before I took action...At Yahho CSSP I was the judge and jury for several years...Right or Wrong.

One thing I did not tolerate was newcomer spam and posts that were derogatory towards sex, religion or race...Instant banishment.

So here we have Rob making a request. He has the right to do so...But he is not in charge here. I'm not either. He needs to direct his complaints to the people that are in charge IMO.

Personally, I do not think colorful language is a problem at this forum...But he is entitled to his own opinion. However, he has a choice...I'm sorry that he takes it so hard...But if he thinks the language at this forum is out of line then he has to make his own decision as to whether he wants to stick around. I hope he does stick around...But that's his decision...Not mine....Doug(IIC)

When Rob first started this thread, I don't think he was being hyper-sensitive at all. He politely explained that profanity bothers him and made a humble request. I suppose you could say (as you did) that he is being hypersensitive about the response he has received. However, in response, I would say that some of the initial responses to Rob in this thread were hyper-insensitive. Is it really that difficult to give up using foul language when politely asked to do so?

While I agree, especially in light of the recent new thread about profanity begun by Karel, that there really isn't a huge problem with profanity here, if a member is bothered by it and asks others to stop, what's wrong with that? On the other hand, I do see something wrong when, after being asked to refrain from using such language, to write posts containing exactly the language that is offensive.

This can be applied to anything, not just profanity. Hypothetically speaking, imagine your friend is doing something that bothers you and you politely ask that friend to stop. How do you respond if, instead of stopping, your friend does exactly the behavior that is bothering you? My guess is that you leave. Are you then being hyper-sensitive? Or are you just removing yourself from a situation that bothers you?

[Louetta]

Oh yeah...Now I remember...Hey...I thought you were watching the game

I turn it on every so often. Have stuff to read. We had a shot at 31-7 but just fumbled on the 6. The real test will be against Chicago I think in two weeks.

[IIC]

When the last guy posted the swear in capital letters I posted that if I was in a class with 100 guys there was always one who tried to be obnoxious to get attention and you should ignore that person.

Oh yeah...Now I remember...Hey...I thought you were watching the game

[Louetta]

What does that mean??????

When the last guy posted the swear in capital letters I posted that if I was in a class with 100 guys there was always one who tried to be obnoxious to get attention and you should ignore that person.

[IIC]

You are talking to the 100th guy. You're supposed to ignore him.

What does that mean??????

[IIC]

We don't have greeks here so there are less parties than you might think. We had all you could eat too plus free bras after freshman year which was nice.

Hey...I gotta a lot of FREE stuff...But never a FREE bra.

BTW...Did I read some of your posts right?...Did you actually get a scholarship for swimming? I thought Ivy League schools didn't give sports scholarships???

The reason I say that is because I had received a letter from Dartmouth in HS...As I recall they said they didn't offer sports scholarships but I could apply for financial aid. Well, in those days (1971) I wouldn't have qualified for financial aid...And with my grades/SAT I wouldn't have qualified to get in anyway (I was Captain of the Varsity Ditching Team in HS...lol)

[Louetta]

You might be right Mary...But I don't see Rob posting anymore about this....How about some examples.

Here's my take...I like Rob...I think he's a great guy...But I also think he's being hyper-sensitive.

I do not think profanity is a problem at this forum. I moderate some small forums and I used to moderate the Yahoo Canslim StockPicks Forum that had over 2,000 members. There were certain words that I would not and do not tolerate. There are other words that may be offensive to some but that I do/did tolerate because they are words that many people use in everyday life....For those that used the words on my ban list I would send 2 warnings before I took action...At Yahho CSSP I was the judge and jury for several years...Right or Wrong.

One thing I did not tolerate was newcomer spam and posts that were derogatory towards sex, religion or race...Instant banishment.

So here we have Rob making a request. He has the right to do so...But he is not in charge here. I'm not either. He needs to direct his complaints to the people that are in charge IMO.

Personally, I do not think colorful language is a problem at this forum...But he is entitled to his own opinion. However, he has a choice...I'm sorry that he takes it so hard...But if he thinks the language at this forum is out of line then he has to make his own decision as to whether he wants to stick around. I hope he does stick around...But that's his decision...Not mine....Doug(IIC)

You are talking to the 100th guy. You're supposed to ignore him.

[IIC]

In response to this, Louetta said, "Maybe we should get back to my grad work. Actually I spent several hours reading about how to meditate better, my sessions lately have been very sloppy. So is my backstroke for that matter, though my eligibility is gone so it doesn't really matter. And I missed this rally. Hmm."

I respectfully disagree. In other forums I belong to, this is called "hijacking." When you want to talk about something completely different than what the person who started the thread wants to talk about, it's better to create a new thread than it is to hijack the topic of the original thread.

Mary

You might be right Mary...But I don't see Rob posting anymore about this....How about some examples.

Here's my take...I like Rob...I think he's a great guy...But I also think he's being hyper-sensitive.

I do not think profanity is a problem at this forum. I moderate some small forums and I used to moderate the Yahoo Canslim StockPicks Forum that had over 2,000 members. There were certain words that I would not and do not tolerate. There are other words that may be offensive to some but that I do/did tolerate because they are words that many people use in everyday life....For those that used the words on my ban list I would send 2 warnings before I took action...At Yahho CSSP I was the judge and jury for several years...Right or Wrong.

One thing I did not tolerate was newcomer spam and posts that were derogatory towards sex, religion or race...Instant banishment.

So here we have Rob making a request. He has the right to do so...But he is not in charge here. I'm not either. He needs to direct his complaints to the people that are in charge IMO.

Personally, I do not think colorful language is a problem at this forum...But he is entitled to his own opinion. However, he has a choice...I'm sorry that he takes it so hard...But if he thinks the language at this forum is out of line then he has to make his own decision as to whether he wants to stick around. I hope he does stick around...But that's his decision...Not mine....Doug(IIC)

[Louetta]

When I went to U. of Nebraska the first year the drinking age was 19...Couldn't get in bars but there were plenty of parties...When I was a Soph they lowered the drinking age in NE to 18...Now I think all states are 21.

I think you could substitute girls for guys

I was in sports too...Track scholarship...Plenty of food at the training table...All you can eat. I lived on campus the 1st year...Off after that...But I still went to the training table my Soph year...All you could eat 3x a day. I ripped my right hamstring when I was a Soph at a meet in San Jose, CA...I transferred to U. of HI in my Junior year because that was only one of two NCAA Div 1 schools where you didn't have to sit out a year if you transferred. But even w/ a scholarship Hawaii was expensive...Plus I couldn't get any of the classes I wanted the first semester...After 8 weeks I came back to the mainland and then went back to NE. That was it for sports and scholarships but my Grandmother picked up the tab although I did work P/T at one of the libraries off and on. Actually, working at the library was a good place to meet chicks...lol

We don't have greeks here so there are less parties than you might think. We had all you could eat too plus free bras after freshman year which was nice.

[IIC]

English as an undergrad. I was too young to drink, don't care for girls, enjoyed sports and within reason could eat what I wanted since I was young and got a lot of exercise.

When I went to U. of Nebraska the first year the drinking age was 19...Couldn't get in bars but there were plenty of parties...When I was a Soph they lowered the drinking age in NE to 18...Now I think all states are 21.

I think you could substitute girls for guys

I was in sports too...Track scholarship...Plenty of food at the training table...All you can eat. I lived on campus the 1st year...Off after that...But I still went to the training table my Soph year...All you could eat 3x a day. I ripped my right hamstring when I was a Soph at a meet in San Jose, CA...I transferred to U. of HI in my Junior year because that was only one of two NCAA Div 1 schools where you didn't have to sit out a year if you transferred. But even w/ a scholarship Hawaii was expensive...Plus I couldn't get any of the classes I wanted the first semester...After 8 weeks I came back to the mainland and then went back to NE. That was it for sports and scholarships but my Grandmother picked up the tab although I did work P/T at one of the libraries off and on. Actually, working at the library was a good place to meet chicks...lol

Thread Hijacking

I was just thinking that this thread started out asking for the forum to ease up on the use of profanity. Now we've evolved into Louetta and her post grad work. And the transition was so subtle.

In response to this, Louetta said, "Maybe we should get back to my grad work. Actually I spent several hours reading about how to meditate better, my sessions lately have been very sloppy. So is my backstroke for that matter, though my eligibility is gone so it doesn't really matter. And I missed this rally. Hmm."

I respectfully disagree. In other forums I belong to, this is called "hijacking." When you want to talk about something completely different than what the person who started the thread wants to talk about, it's better to create a new thread than it is to hijack the topic of the original thread.

Mary

[billyjoe]

I'll keep it up but cycling seems to be a real problem in triathlon. The local races seem weighted towards cycling and even if you clobber people by several minutes in a 1 mile swim they make it back fast in the cycle if they have the proper background. But it would be fun to compete.

Lou,
I agree. Lots of the contestants had years of cycling experience and it showed. My son probably enjoys cycling the most , but lost the most ground during that portion of the race. He also ran cross country for 5 years and was varsity but not spectacular and held up well in that part.

-------------billyjoe

[Louetta]

Yeah...I majored in Sports, Food, Beer and Girls...What did you say your major was???

English as an undergrad. I was too young to drink, don't care for girls, enjoyed sports and within reason could eat what I wanted since I was young and got a lot of exercise.

[Louetta]

Lou,
Many swimmers seem to be laid back , but they certainly are stronger than most imagine. I hope you keep up with some physical fitness activities even if swimming is over. My son got 3rd place in a sprint triathlon. The swimming portion was in Lake Erie and he was 9th out of the water out of 100 or so and that was just with a high school swimming background. He was embarrassed when a 60+ year old lady passed him in the cycling portion, but it turned out she traveled all over the U.S. and was a high placer nationally.

------------billyjoe

I'll keep it up but cycling seems to be a real problem in triathlon. The local races seem weighted towards cycling and even if you clobber people by several minutes in a 1 mile swim they make it back fast in the cycle if they have the proper background. But it would be fun to compete.