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  • IIC
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2003
    • 14938

    Originally posted by billyjoe
    Doug,
    I'm asking you and Lye the same question since you both mention group strength more than most. What are the most significant things to look for when using group strength to help find stock candidates ? IBD's method of going with the highest ranking groups always seemed to be dangerous and a type of backward thinking in my opinion. Thanks

    billyjoe
    Certain groups are in or out of favor...Doesn't always work...which I will explain below(see GRZ)...Sometimes there is some great news and others in the group hop on the train...

    But I have a major problem with IBD Groups...First of all they claim they are weighted(But they refuse to tell me their weighting formula)...I've seen them post top groups for the day when the avg. percentage gain is negative...I want unweighted.

    2nd of all besides the Top Groups for the day they rank them on 6 mo. performance(At least I believe they do...I used to know IBD inside-out...but no more because I don't have the time/interest)...So if you see a ranking for the week it means it is a 6 month ranking...I don't care about a 6 mo. ranking...I wanna know the REAL UNWEIGHTED WEEKLY RANKING...

    3rd of all I don't like some of their Misc. and Diversified groups that have stocks w/ no correlation to each other...

    4th of all they include some Canadian Stocks...

    5th of all they include some penny stocks...

    6th of all...BLAH BLAH BLAH

    But I do believe OVERALL stocks move w/ their counterparts

    Now...GOLD is HOT...I don't like gold but what the heck...The market doesn't care what I like...So I buy GRZ yesterday(watched it go up for 2 weeks w/o me)...Today Gold is up...My IIC Gold Index A/D/U is 31/17/3 today...but it was much higher this morning...But what happens to GRZ?...It goes dn on news about it will have to pay millions more for this or that...Heck...I shudda held BGO from last week...So Groups are not foolproof...But I held...I think it will recover.

    Anyway...I do think that group movement is helpful...But hardly foolproof...And yes...I think the overall IBD and Canslim system(s) are backward looking...People buy stocks for what they are gonna do...Not for what they already did...At least they should IMO...Best, Doug(IIC)
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    • IIC
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2003
      • 14938

      IIC's Killer Watch Lists:

      FTEK,ICTG,EZM,CUP,FSTR,DVW,RBAK,GRMN,TLAB,DXPE,NUA N,NETL,GAIA

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      • IIC
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2003
        • 14938

        Originally posted by IIC
        Good News...If you had bot equal $$$ amounts of the IIC 100 Top 10 each week of this year on the first trading day of the week and sold them all at the close of the last trading day of the week you'd be +22.0% YTD.

        Bad News...If you'd have done the same thing with the IBD 100 Top 10 you'd be up even more.

        Other News...I don't have that figure for the IIC/IBD combo lists...Anyone wanna volunteer to calculate it?

        ...Doug(IIC)
        OK...nobody volunteered...For 100 bux sent to your Paypal account will anyone volunteer?...I really want to know...but I don't have the time...I'm serious...I will supply all the weekly pix and instructions...You can email me if you want to remain anon to everyone else...Thanks, Doug
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        • Originally posted by IIC
          OK...nobody volunteered...For 100 bux sent to your Paypal account will anyone volunteer?...I really want to know...but I don't have the time...I'm serious...I will supply all the weekly pix and instructions...You can email me if you want to remain anon to everyone else...Thanks, Doug

          OK...OK....I'll try to help you out. If you have the the data, don't
          require fancy software or charts and not in a rush then I'll try to
          pull the #'s together for you. Donate the $100 bux. I'm still working on
          learning, especially my weakest points; very short term and shorts.
          Help with my education from you and any others who appraciate the
          data will be payment enough.

          Fair enough?
          Shadow

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          • IIC
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2003
            • 14938

            Originally posted by Shadow
            OK...OK....I'll try to help you out. If you have the the data, don't
            require fancy software or charts and not in a rush then I'll try to
            pull the #'s together for you. Donate the $100 bux. I'm still working on
            learning, especially my weakest points; very short term and shorts.
            Help with my education from you and any others who appraciate the
            data will be payment enough.

            Fair enough?
            Shadow
            I have to go back and put it all together...thx...may take me a week or so...I'll pm you over the weekend on how I think the easiest way to do it is...Doug
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            • IIC
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2003
              • 14938

              Morning Movers: CHIC YHOO AMZN LVLT UARM SVA GOOG TASR NWEC KFRC RBAK MNST MATR ESLR BWNG SANM ORCT LIFC SCSS ELSE RFMD WIRE BOOM ANDE FISV TLAB SFUN ITRI CKFR
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              • Originally posted by IIC
                I have to go back and put it all together...thx...may take me a week or so...I'll pm you over the weekend on how I think the easiest way to do it is...Doug
                I'll watch for your message. I hope your not in a real big
                hurry... this may take a little while.

                I need to use spell check or finish my 1st cup of coffee
                before posting. Hope you didn't cringe too much.

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                • IIC
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 14938

                  Sorry...No IIC's Killer Watch Lists tonight...been burning the midnight oil at work......Gotta leave pre-m tomorrow too...But here's the MoMo List:

                  Wednesday's MoMo

                  ACSEF,HSR,ELSE,INTN,SNTO,ININ,OLAB,MTW,COGO,ACTG,T LAB,KRSL,VGZ,STRL ANDE,SBAC,CLEC,BGC,MEK,BLDP,WIRE,GRN,TTES,CBG,WBD, FO,TSCM,LDSH CFK, ACLI, NXG, TWIN, TIE, AMKR, IIP, RBAK,SMSI,BAA,TRN, DSA,EZM

                  Little Charts:

                  http://trimurl.com/53E

                  http://trimurl.com/53F

                  http://trimurl.com/53H

                  ACSEF
                  HSR
                  ELSE
                  INTN
                  SNTO
                  ININ
                  OLAB
                  MTW
                  COGO
                  ACTG
                  TLAB
                  KRSL
                  VGZ
                  STRL
                  ANDE
                  SBAC
                  CLEC
                  BGC
                  MEK
                  BLDP
                  WIRE
                  GRN
                  TTES
                  CBG
                  WBD
                  IFO
                  TSCM
                  LDSH
                  CFK
                  ACLI
                  NXG
                  TWIN
                  TIE
                  AMKR
                  IIP
                  RBAK
                  SMSI
                  BAA
                  TRN
                  IDSA
                  EZM
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                  • IIC
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2003
                    • 14938

                    Gotta run but here's the morning movers: APOL AMKR KOMG ANDE CRDN SOHU CELG RAIL KLIC ABBI NTGR RMKR ASPV CMCSA UARM PTRY DP AZN SMSI FNF KRON PDII GSK WFR
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                    • IIC
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 14938

                      Originally posted by IIC
                      OK...Here's your MACD crossovers coming next week:



                      ABT,APPB,ARTC,HSY,ISSX,SGEN,PPH,NKE,MNT,FL,FIS,EL, EAS,SLE,SPC,TOPP

                      Little Charts:

                      http://trimurl.com/51Z
                      Only one day left this week to see how my Crystal Ball worked...There were 16 this week...So far 12 have crossed over at least at some point this week.
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                      • IIC
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2003
                        • 14938

                        Today's MoMo:

                        ENV, NGA, LPTH, ISIS, MRVC, GEX, AMKR, AIM, DXPE, NPLA, SVT, ELSE, SHOO, SKX, CLB, AVCI, ASPV, AP, TTES, FIZ, CNXT, IF, ECOL, WFR, ACTG, CECE, AKAM, IBCA, TTMI

                        Little Charts:





                        ENV
                        NGA
                        LPTH
                        ISIS
                        MRVC
                        GEX
                        AMKR
                        AIM
                        DXPE
                        NPLA
                        SVT
                        ELSE
                        SHOO
                        SKX
                        CLB
                        AVCI
                        ASPV
                        AP
                        TTES
                        FIZ
                        CNXT
                        IF
                        ECOL
                        WFR
                        ACTG
                        CECE
                        AKAM
                        IBCA
                        TTMI
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                        • IIC
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2003
                          • 14938

                          I stole this from a guy I know on another forum:

                          Seems that the market is not a bull or a bear but the dreaded deer market. It runs back and forth anytime it hears a twig snap.
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                          • IIC
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2003
                            • 14938

                            IIC's Killer Watch Lists

                            To be honest...Nothing thrills me on Friday...Will wait and see...Benny indicates a pause in rate hikes...China raises rates..Gold stocks react(IIC Gold Index A/D was 4/47) but Gold itself remains strong closing well...Spot is at 635.00 as I post...Silver ETF comes out on Friday...Finally...But I figure there will be shenanigans at first so I'll pass either way. GDP tomorrow conc. 4.9%...Too many IF'S...Of course you could buy IF...just kidding.

                            I will wait to see what develops tomorrow...No rush...At least everyone's FAVE stock was up on eps...WITS...I think Greenspan gives their c/c's now...that's why it took overnight to react(Nobody knows what the h*ll they are talking about)...GAAP this...Non-GAAP that...Blue Pumpkin doesn't count yet...Call Center Magazine Co. of the Year...One time charges don't count...Of course we have one time charges every quarter But they are the Best at what they do...At least that's what they say...BTW...What do they do...Reminds me of that song/movie...I love the way you do that thing you do....Now tell me...What the h*ll do you do???...LOL

                            CLZR,MCRI,GEHL,RSAS,ASF,ASTSF,GEX and Me and Cramer's fave...CNXT

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                            • IIC
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2003
                              • 14938

                              Originally posted by IIC
                              OK...Here's your MACD crossovers coming next week:



                              ABT,APPB,ARTC,HSY,ISSX,SGEN,PPH,NKE,MNT,FL,FIS,EL, EAS,SLE,SPC,TOPP

                              Little Charts:

                              http://trimurl.com/51Z

                              Let's see how IIC's Crystal Ball did...

                              The Crystal Ball indicated that 16 stocks were prime candidates to be MACD Crossovers in the near future. Well, we gave it 5 trading days.

                              Of the 16...13 crossed over this week. FL re-crossed down though on Wednesday.

                              The 3 that didn't make it were APPB NKE and FIS.



                              Not bad...But I'll see if I can't take the Ball in for a tuneup tomorrow...Doug(IIC)
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                              • IIC
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2003
                                • 14938

                                Below is a copy of a post I made at Stkytreats thread...I'm re-posting it here for those who missed it and may want to check out the link I put up:

                                Lye suggests asking for The 24 Lessons book...But that book is based on a 26 week series that IBD ran back in the late '90's called 26 Weeks To Investment Success which I just happen to have in my back pocket... http://trimurl.com/545

                                Now you can ask for another book....I'd recommend Guide To The Markets...it is a little outdated but it is the best book they ever published...If they won't give you that then ask for The Successful Investor and as a last resort you can ask for How To Make Money In Stocks.

                                Too bad you missed the blowout special IBD had about a month ago...I renewed for only $174 yr for the print edition regular $295. I think I forgot to mention it on this forum...Sorry...Doug(IIC)
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