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  • IIC
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2003
    • 14938

    Originally posted by billyjoe
    Doug,
    How much of an effect do you think the hedge funds have on market volatility vs. 15 years ago?
    ---------billyjoe
    A lot, I think the term Hedge Fund is a bit hazy though...at least in my mind.

    One thing to consider is the amount of money in 401k type plans...At one time only very large cos. had these types of plans...But with the advent of the Cookie Cutter plans in the 90's it allowed smaller cos. to easily have such plans...That has brought a lot of money into the markets too....Doug(IIC)
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    • IIC
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2003
      • 14938

      IIC vs. IBD

      FWIW...Just looked at some past results:

      The IBD Top 10 was green this week...the previous 6 weeks it was only green 2x.

      The IIC Top 10 was green this week...the previous 6 weeks it was only green 1x.

      In the 8 weeks leading up to Friday May 5th the IBD Top 10 was green 7x and the IIC Top 10 was green all 8x.

      Interesting to note though that on May 5th the IBD Top 10 was +45% and the IIC Top 10 was +35%....Now it is IIC +23% and IBD +20% YTD.

      When I first started the IIC 100 a couple of years ago it was an attempt to figure out the IBD 100 criteria...Didn't ever figure it out and yes, there are some major differences; e.g. IIC 100 accepts stocks which are under $15 (Usually 20-30% on the list are) etc...But it appears that we are both looking at the same type of stocks.

      During the day when I check the lists they are invariably mostly green or red on both lists...Doug(IIC)

      Guess you can take the SUCKER outta Canslim...But you can't take Canslim outta the SUCKER...LOL
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      • IIC
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2003
        • 14938

        You can never get too much news:

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        • IIC
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2003
          • 14938

          For those that use Internet Explorer...I noticed last week that some visitors at some of my sites are using IE 7( I can see the systems used as well as screen resolution and a whole bunch of other stuff some of you you thought was secret...LOL)...Heck, I never heard of it...Any comments on it?...thx...IIC http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/default.mspx
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          • Websman
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2004
            • 5545

            Here's one that looks promising...

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            • IIC
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2003
              • 14938

              Webs...Obviously you don't pay attention...Search this forum and you will find that Bambi picked IIC as this year's winner...Of course, I'm pretty sure that you did too...IIC
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              • Rob
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2003
                • 3194

                IIC Top Ten Results For Last Week

                By the way, for those of you playing the home version of the IIC Top Ten, here are the results of last weeks action:


                Very impressive, I'd say. Shoot, imagine what the avg. would be if MED hadn't been blown out of the sky.


                Uh oh ... don't tell cosmicporch that IFO ended the week at $6.66.
                —Rob

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                • RL
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 1215

                  Doug what Is

                  your take on that trading system that uses jungle animal.
                  Ray Long

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                  • IIC
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2003
                    • 14938

                    Originally posted by RL
                    your take on that trading system that uses jungle animal.

                    A waste of money...And I'd also like to know why the owner keeps his name a big secret???




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                    • RL
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 1215

                      Thanks Doug

                      have a friend he and I thought he and I would give It a try. I really appreciate your reply.
                      Ray Long

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                      • IIC
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2003
                        • 14938

                        Originally posted by RL
                        have a friend he and I thought he and I would give It a try. I really appreciate your reply.
                        I didn't explain the WHY...

                        These guys certainly do a lot of advertising...Barron's, IBD etc...Full pages too...Big Bux...Anyway, they periodically offer a free week which I have taken advantage of several times. I also downloaded all their pix/results going way back...Unfortunately I recentley deleted them...But if I find them again I will let you know.

                        Near the end of last year and during the first couple of months this year I know a few who subscribed...They raved about how great it was...But didn't everybody do great during that time frame?

                        Those people started regretting the $$$ spent along about the end of March...Well, my fortunes didn't start going in reverse till mid May.

                        I never really took the time to analyze the whole Gorilla system....But think about this...What if I told you to Buy any IIC Top 10 stock if it goes up at least 1% on at least 1.5x ADV...Think you'd do well? I think so...Same concept IMO.

                        Best, Doug(IIC)
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                        • IIC
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2003
                          • 14938

                          Well...I've certainly got egg on my face...Maybe Homer and Rob are right...I'm just a Sucker...

                          All year I've been saying that the IIC vs. IBD race was based on buying 1 share of each of the Top 10's at the open on the first day of the trading week and selling at the close on the last trading day of the week.

                          Now, I'm not the one who tracks the results...But when I saw Rob's post about the IIC Home Version I said to myself..."IIC...Are you some kind of sucker?...That's not what this other guy says for last week"

                          So I snapped a pic this morning of Rob's post and sent it to this guy who tracks it...Ends up that he doesn't track 'em that way.

                          He takes the close on Friday to the close on the following Friday if they were on last week's list...He uses the open on Monday only if it is a stock that is added to the lists...He uses equal $$$ amounts rather than 1 share each and he deducts $.01 share for each share necessary on each of the 10 stocks on each list.

                          What a sucker I've been for 6 months...LOL

                          I'm very sorry about this...But we can all thank Rob for raining on my parade...But, at least the guy is comparing the two lists Apples For Apples...So I'm still winning YTD..."Lil Sucker IIC"
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                          • spikefader
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2004
                            • 7175

                            Originally posted by IIC
                            Well...I've certainly got egg on my face...Maybe Homer and Rob are right...I'm just a Sucker...

                            All year I've been saying that the IIC vs. IBD race was based on buying 1 share of each of the Top 10's at the open on the first day of the trading week and selling at the close on the last trading day of the week.

                            Now, I'm not the one who tracks the results...But when I saw Rob's post about the IIC Home Version I said to myself..."IIC...Are you some kind of sucker?...That's not what this other guy says for last week"

                            So I snapped a pic this morning of Rob's post and sent it to this guy who tracks it...Ends up that he doesn't track 'em that way.

                            He takes the close on Friday to the close on the following Friday if they were on last week's list...He uses the open on Monday only if it is a stock that is added to the lists...He uses equal $$$ amounts rather than 1 share each and he deducts $.01 share for each share necessary on each of the 10 stocks on each list.

                            What a sucker I've been for 6 months...LOL

                            I'm very sorry about this...But we can all thank Rob for raining on my parade...But, at least the guy is comparing the two lists Apples For Apples...So I'm still winning YTD..."Lil Sucker IIC"
                            lol ain't that life; sucker punched when ya least expect it.

                            Oh, and hey! one must be careful with only recording 1 share. It's not very accurate. Try it. Same entry points, equal set dollar amount invested (share number will be different for each stock right) and then try it for each stock only 1 share. The % figures aren't even close.

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                            • IIC
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2003
                              • 14938

                              Originally posted by spikefader
                              lol ain't that life; sucker punched when ya least expect it.

                              Oh, and hey! one must be careful with only recording 1 share. It's not very accurate. Try it. Same entry points, equal set dollar amount invested (share number will be different for each stock right) and then try it for each stock only 1 share. The % figures aren't even close.
                              OK Spike...I'm assigning you to go back to 1/3/06 and figure it out the way I thought it was...Thx for volunteering to do it...IIC


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                              Last edited by IIC; 06-25-2006, 08:06 PM.
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                              • IIC
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2003
                                • 14938

                                Whadda Day...Geesh!!!...My wife gets back from France in about 2 hours...I had to clean up...Get some flowers...Vacuum....Blah Blah Blah...

                                Fortunately I had time to make up this little sign so I can greet her at the airport...'Ya know...make her feel important:



                                I'm fairly certain that she'll BOP me over the head when she sees it...But that should make NBB happy...LOL
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