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  • billyjoe
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2003
    • 9014

    Doug,
    How about those appearing on both IIC 100 and cup w/handle list?

    ----------billyjoe

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    • billyjoe
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2003
      • 9014

      Doug,
      Have you ever seen IBD explain how they come up with their IBD 100 performance numbers or can slim numbers? I mean an explanation of calculation that could be tracked by anyone other than IBD. I know Hulbert's checks out newsletter performance and says most of them are very creative in determining their success.

      -------------billyjoe

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      • IIC
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2003
        • 14938

        Originally posted by billyjoe View Post
        Doug,
        Have you ever seen IBD explain how they come up with their IBD 100 performance numbers or can slim numbers? I mean an explanation of calculation that could be tracked by anyone other than IBD. I know Hulbert's checks out newsletter performance and says most of them are very creative in determining their success.

        -------------billyjoe

        I've given it a half-hearted try...I can't figure it out...

        Reminds me of a saying my Dad always told me:

        Lier's Figure...but figures NEVER lie...Does that apply to IBD???...Heck if I know
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        • riverbabe
          Senior Member
          • May 2005
          • 3373

          Originally posted by IIC View Post
          I can see it will happen again circa late August 1987.
          I remember going white-faced to my husband with the news that the Dow had just dropped over 500 points! Almost unheard of then. He said, "don't worry, it will come back. I'm not doing anything here." Taught me a valuable lesson, even though I was not invested at all then. River

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          • IIC
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2003
            • 14938

            Originally posted by billyjoe View Post
            Doug,
            How about those appearing on both IIC 100 and cup w/handle list?

            ----------billyjoe

            Don't know Billy.

            But I think that people should pay attention to those on both the IIC 100 and IBD 100. I don't post the combo list because I don't feel like hearing from IBD...But for those that have access to the IBD 100 you can easily copy them from their site in .xls...then you can copy my vertical list of the IIC 100. Paste them in an .xls column and sort alpha...You can then easily see the duplicates.

            I've never tracked the combo list but I'd say those would be worth checking out...This week there are 20 duplicates.
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            • billyjoe
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2003
              • 9014

              The IBD 100 list was warping my investing thoughts. Now if I post on a stock that happens to be on their list, it's just a coincidence. We can come up with as good or better prospects than IBD.

              -------------billyjoe

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              • IIC
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2003
                • 14938

                Originally posted by riverbabe View Post
                I remember going white-faced to my husband with the news that the Dow had just dropped over 500 points! Almost unheard of then. He said, "don't worry, it will come back. I'm not doing anything here." Taught me a valuable lesson, even though I was not invested at all then. River
                I was in cash by the beginning of September 1987...I was starting to doubt myself but I took the advice of those that knew better than I.

                The Naz chart doesn't resemble the 1987 chart at this point and maybe it never will...But, if people can put up with +4% eps on the SP 500(yoy % increases have been steadily dropping) and all the economic mess we are in then I don't know what to say...Maybe the foreign growth is keeping us going???

                But as somebody said..."The markets can act irrational longer than you can remain solvent". So in the meantime I'm just playing it short term and going w/ the flow.

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                • IIC
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 14938

                  Originally posted by billyjoe View Post
                  The IBD 100 list was warping my investing thoughts. Now if I post on a stock that happens to be on their list, it's just a coincidence. We can come up with as good or better prospects than IBD.

                  -------------billyjoe

                  Well, in IBD's defense, I've never heard them say that you should buy a stock just because it is on the IBD 100...I'd say the IBD 100 is just a list of ideas...just like my IIC 100...There are many times that I'd like to manually delete a stock on my IIC 100...but I don't...it is just the results of a mechanical scan...But I happen to believe that my IIC 100 is more forward looking overall and the results the past year and a half plus have so far proven me right.
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                  • Originally posted by IIC View Post
                    If you are an IBD'er then I assume you are waiting for the market to tank...Problem is...We don't know when it will happen...But, although I'm not much of a Canslimmer anymore...I can see it will happen again circa late August 1987.

                    I'm not gonna post proprietary IBD info...But, I will tell you to look at their A/D stats...I strongly recommend that you pay attention if you are long.
                    I didn't know IBD was waiting for the market to tank? I read the big picture daily and it seems pretty positive. Many others seem like they've been negative for the last few months, but IBD has kept me in the market.

                    Are you referring to the A/D stats for the indices? I do find it a little curious that the Naz and the IBD100 don't have higher ratings, but I guess that's probably due to lower volume on these recent increases.

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                    • riverbabe
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2005
                      • 3373

                      Originally posted by IIC View Post
                      But as somebody said..."The markets can act irrational longer than you can remain solvent". So in the meantime I'm just playing it short term and going w/ the flow.
                      Sounds very wise to me. Even my "real broker" has just bought some QIDs for me. River

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                      • IIC
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2003
                        • 14938

                        Originally posted by brd View Post
                        I didn't know IBD was waiting for the market to tank? I read the big picture daily and it seems pretty positive. Many others seem like they've been negative for the last few months, but IBD has kept me in the market.

                        Are you referring to the A/D stats for the indices? I do find it a little curious that the Naz and the IBD100 don't have higher ratings, but I guess that's probably due to lower volume on these recent increases.

                        IBD has not said so...Yes, I am talking about the overall Accumulation/Distribution which has been on a 7 year downslide...But in particular I'm looking at this latest run since March...The falling accumulation makes this rally suspect IMO

                        As far as the Big Picture...It seems to me that there are a lot of contradictions if you recall what they say from day to day...As far as I'm concerned they go with the wind...Which is OK for day and swing traders...But I'd think a true canslimmer is at least an Intermediate term investor???
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                        • IIC
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2003
                          • 14938

                          out SIMO from Friday +1.77
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                          • IIC
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2003
                            • 14938

                            Originally posted by IIC View Post
                            out SIMO from Friday +1.77

                            Looks like I accidently called the top...Well, I always say "I'd rather be lucky than good"...LOL
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                            • IIC
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2003
                              • 14938

                              Today's MoMo w/ an hour and 15 mins left:

                              ARTW, MHJ, ELON, NILE, SMTX, VSR, CKSW, LPHI, MDII, ACY, SIF, MXE, KMGB, TO, ASTI, ASYS, CPHD, PED, KTEC, SVLF, SBEI, LWAY, SGR, AZC
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                              • IIC
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2003
                                • 14938

                                In BRKS lo 18's thru 20ema
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