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  • IIC
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2003
    • 14938

    Originally posted by Tatnic View Post
    Doug...how do you figure your returns on your 100 list? Over what period of time and how are substitutions factored in?


    I don't calc it...It is done independently by others.

    Here is my understanding:

    At the beginning of the year all stocks are taken at the open (in the top 5 or 10)...Then the avg. % gain/loss is reported for the week.

    The following week (and subsequent weeks) are calc'd that if a stock is new the following week then you use Monday's open...If it is a repeat then you use the previous Friday's close etc...I think the results are compounded.

    The problem is (although it is a fair comparison...and they compare against other lists that I'm not at liberty to reveal too) is that in the real world nobody knows which ones will be dropped for the following week until after Friday's close...I could run my IIC 100 scan for the following week in R/T 5 mins before the previous Friday close....I don't do that but even if I did there could be some after hours adjustments...And IBD sure as heck isn't gonna do it....So you can't sell at Friday's close because you don't know which ones will be dropped for next week.

    My suggestion...Both lists are only a guide...There's plenty of times when I would like to manually remove some...But I don't since I offer it as a Mechanical Scan ONLY...The comparison is presented ONLY to show that people can get a better list of ideas for free than they can by paying an arm and a leg.

    I can say with ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY that the IIC 100 is more forward looking than the IBD 100...I think the last few years prove that...Will it always be?...I don't know...But at least you don't have to pay me to find out...And you NEVER will.

    In conclusion...All I'm trying to do is offer people some NEW IDEAS at no charge...Perhaps some day I might charge for something???...But it won't be for the IIC 100.

    Thanks For Asking,

    Best, Doug(IIC)
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    • IIC
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2003
      • 14938

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      • IIC
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2003
        • 14938

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        • Originally posted by IIC View Post
          I can say with ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY that the IIC 100 is more forward looking than the IBD 100...I think the last few years prove that...Will it always be?...I don't know...But at least you don't have to pay me to find out...And you NEVER will.
          Doug, it seems like your "top five" are stocks which are in fresh breakouts or close to it, whereas the IBD top five are all extended. So, I'd say by definition, your rankings are more forward looking by definition. Is that fair to say?

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          • IIC
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2003
            • 14938

            Just got home...Let's see what I got stopped out of...Geez...I still have RGR and BCPC...But I got stopped out of the only one that ended green...IDEV -.41 avg.

            Only about 8.50 and I'll be even on QID
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            • IIC
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2003
              • 14938

              Originally posted by B.J View Post
              Doug, it seems like your "top five" are stocks which are in fresh breakouts or close to it, whereas the IBD top five are all extended. So, I'd say by definition, your rankings are more forward looking by definition. Is that fair to say?
              Well...our scans have both liked BTJ for a while...I don't know IBD's full criteria...But I do know that they put a lot more emphasis on the past than my scan does.
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              • Originally posted by IIC View Post
                I can say with ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY that the IIC 100 is more forward looking than the IBD 100...I think the last few years prove that...Will it always be?...I don't know...But at least you don't have to pay me to find out...And you NEVER will.
                I like that list Doug...got some good names on it. But can you expand on that statement that you're absolutely certain its more forward looking? Afterall, no one has future information, esp. with a mechanical scan. Do you mean that IBD uses much older data to develop their list...ie going back 5 years perhaps..is that what you're getting at?

                TIA

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                • IIC
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 14938

                  Originally posted by Tatnic View Post
                  I like that list Doug...got some good names on it. But can you expand on that statement that you're absolutely certain its more forward looking? Afterall, no one has future information, esp. with a mechanical scan. Do you mean that IBD uses much older data to develop their list...ie going back 5 years perhaps..is that what you're getting at?

                  TIA
                  Yes...on the historical info...But for better or worse I heavily weight projections. They may lightly weight projections, but it can't be a major factor since they list stocks that have no projections AND they list stocks that have negative projections.

                  I'm not at liberty to give details on individual stocks in the IBD 100...I'm sure they are just waiting for me to break their rules...But it ain't gonna happen
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                  • IIC
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2003
                    • 14938

                    IIC 100

                    NEW INDICATORS ON ALL CHARTS FOR 2007!!!.....YOU CAN VIEW ALL THE CHARTS OF THE IIC 100 AT Stockcharts.com's "PUBLIC CHART LISTS" Simply click the link below:

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                    THANKS, DOUG(IIC)

                    IIC 100 for 6/11/07

                    FTK, TBSI, CROX, SNCR, PRXI, FRPT, DGIT, PTT, SLP, BTJ, CYNO, BCSI, AMZN, CRNT, VDSI, ICE, GSOL, BPHX, OI, UNCA, CHDX, MOS, CNH, TTEC, RIMM, FARO, GPOR, TEO, RGR, CLRK, CPLA, MICC, ARGN, AMX, JCG, GCOM, OMPI, PDGI, TESO, NETC, HHGP, CMG, SRSL, GME, VOCS, SPWR, FLWS, ATX, DRC, KTEC, GIGM, BEAV, MYS, MKTX, AMRI, ININ, BIDU, KSU, KALU, HGRD, BKI, CBEY, HMSY, GTLS, EDO, MR, FMCN, CNQR, FALC, HPGP, DV, PRX, ZUMZ, HTZ, IMA, MYE, RTI, THE, VPRT, ELY, IFSIA, VSCN, ROSE, TMB, XRIT, GIVN, CIEN, BITI, HC, PCS, WEN, GPX, AIR, RRST, RIG, JASO, WMS, ICON, NE, LPSN

                    By request, here is the IIC 100 in a vertical format:

                    FTK
                    TBSI
                    CROX
                    SNCR
                    PRXI
                    FRPT
                    DGIT
                    PTT
                    SLP
                    BTJ
                    CYNO
                    BCSI
                    AMZN
                    CRNT
                    VDSI
                    ICE
                    GSOL
                    BPHX
                    OI
                    UNCA
                    CHDX
                    MOS
                    CNH
                    TTEC
                    RIMM
                    FARO
                    GPOR
                    TEO
                    RGR
                    CLRK
                    CPLA
                    MICC
                    ARGN
                    AMX
                    JCG
                    GCOM
                    OMPI
                    PDGI
                    TESO
                    NETC
                    HHGP
                    CMG
                    SRSL
                    GME
                    VOCS
                    SPWR
                    FLWS
                    ATX
                    DRC
                    KTEC
                    GIGM
                    BEAV
                    MYS
                    MKTX
                    AMRI
                    ININ
                    BIDU
                    KSU
                    KALU
                    HGRD
                    BKI
                    CBEY
                    HMSY
                    GTLS
                    EDO
                    MR
                    FMCN
                    CNQR
                    FALC
                    HPGP
                    DV
                    PRX
                    ZUMZ
                    HTZ
                    IMA
                    MYE
                    RTI
                    THE
                    VPRT
                    ELY
                    IFSIA
                    VSCN
                    ROSE
                    TMB
                    XRIT
                    GIVN
                    CIEN
                    BITI
                    HC
                    PCS
                    WEN
                    GPX
                    AIR
                    RRST
                    RIG
                    JASO
                    WMS
                    ICON
                    NE
                    LPSN
                    Last edited by IIC; 06-09-2007, 02:58 PM.
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                    • IIC
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 14938

                      FYI...the guy who calculates the IIC/IBD performance is out of the country for a couple weeks...He told me last week that he will send me the results when he can.
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                      • IIC
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2003
                        • 14938

                        in CBEY again
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                        • IIC
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2003
                          • 14938

                          Originally posted by IIC View Post
                          in CBEY again


                          out CBEY +.55
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                          • IIC
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2003
                            • 14938

                            in MFRI........
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                            • IIC
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2003
                              • 14938

                              Trim MFRI.......
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                              • IIC
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2003
                                • 14938

                                out MFRI +.74 sh avg
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