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  • hhansen
    Junior Member
    • Jun 2009
    • 14

    Screen Statistical Analysis

    I see a lot of smart numbers guys posting a lot here on the forums so I am throwing this idea out for conversation.

    I am not trying to diminish the value of any one of the eight MM screens however I think it would be interesting to see which screen(s) produced each entry in the Top 5. Each pick will have one or more screens in which it appears.

    After months and years this data could eventually provide some interesting insight as to whether hits on a particular screen or combination of screens produces more Top 5 entries and Mr Market picks. It could also be used to see if there is any correlation on MM pick success vs losses.

    One potential issue I foresee is when I run my IBD screens I don't always get the same hits that Mr Market gets in his dump. Possibly since I use IBD and he uses Fidelity. e.g. South Beach Top 5 entry "CMXX.OB" did not even show up in my IBD 8 screen dump.
  • mrmarket
    Administrator
    • Sep 2003
    • 5971

    #2
    Of my last 22 picks, only 2 are losing money. So...I guess it really doesn't matter...I always win!!! I am HUGE!!!
    =============================

    I am HUGE! Bring me your finest meats and cheeses.

    - $$$MR. MARKET$$$

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    • Deaddog
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2010
      • 740

      #3
      Originally posted by hhansen View Post
      when I run my IBD screens I don't always get the same hits that Mr Market gets in his dump. Possibly since I use IBD and he uses Fidelity. e.g. South Beach Top 5 entry "CMXX.OB" did not even show up in my IBD 8 screen dump.
      I just started a trial subscription with IBD. You mentioned you were using 8 different screens. Is there a screening tool I'm missing?
      It is hard to find the Truth when you start your search with a preconceived notion of what the Truth will be.

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      • hhansen
        Junior Member
        • Jun 2009
        • 14

        #4
        Originally posted by Deaddog View Post
        I just started a trial subscription with IBD. You mentioned you were using 8 different screens. Is there a screening tool I'm missing?
        MM has 8 screen definitions to create each data dump. 3 of them use IBD proprietary criteria, and the other 5 can be screened at most of the free places. Since you have access to the IBD screener then you can just do all 8 right there. I hope that helps.

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        • hhansen
          Junior Member
          • Jun 2009
          • 14

          #5
          Originally posted by mrmarket View Post
          Of my last 22 picks, only 2 are losing money. So...I guess it really doesn't matter...I always win!!! I am HUGE!!!
          Ohrioght. I forgot about that part.

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          • Deaddog
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2010
            • 740

            #6
            Originally posted by hhansen View Post
            MM has 8 screen definitions to create each data dump. 3 of them use IBD proprietary criteria, and the other 5 can be screened at most of the free places. Since you have access to the IBD screener then you can just do all 8 right there. I hope that helps.
            Point me to the IBD screener please. Like I said I'm new to IBD and have found screens but don't know where to look to design custom screens.

            Thanks DD
            It is hard to find the Truth when you start your search with a preconceived notion of what the Truth will be.

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            • hhansen
              Junior Member
              • Jun 2009
              • 14

              #7
              Originally posted by Deaddog View Post
              Point me to the IBD screener please. Like I said I'm new to IBD and have found screens but don't know where to look to design custom screens.

              Thanks DD
              Oh right, now I remember that it can be a pain to find the first time.
              Once you login to the site:
              Click on "Stock research"
              You will see the Screen of the day which is MM Screen #6

              Then click on the drop down for "Premium Tools"
              Then select "Custom Screen Wizard"
              Once there you can click "Create New Screen" and create /save the other 7 screens.

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              • Deaddog
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2010
                • 740

                #8
                Originally posted by hhansen View Post
                Oh right, now I remember that it can be a pain to find the first time.
                Once you login to the site:
                Click on "Stock research"
                You will see the Screen of the day which is MM Screen #6

                Then click on the drop down for "Premium Tools"
                Then select "Custom Screen Wizard"
                Once there you can click "Create New Screen" and create /save the other 7 screens.
                Thanks. After seeing the cost for premium tools I might have to create my own screens.

                I'll see if I can't come up with something simpler that a lazy dog like myself might use.

                We are looking for stocks making new highs that have excellent fundies.

                Might be a bit of work but if one builds his own data base of top stocks and compares it to a list of new daily highs there should be some excellent candidates.
                It is hard to find the Truth when you start your search with a preconceived notion of what the Truth will be.

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                • mrmarket
                  Administrator
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 5971

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Deaddog View Post
                  Thanks. After seeing the cost for premium tools I might have to create my own screens.

                  I'll see if I can't come up with something simpler that a lazy dog like myself might use.

                  We are looking for stocks making new highs that have excellent fundies.

                  Might be a bit of work but if one builds his own data base of top stocks and compares it to a list of new daily highs there should be some excellent candidates.
                  At the end of the day..a stock trading at its high is a stock which has been "discovered" by the market. If fundamantals are very good and its valuation is not extended, its stock price should continue to climb at a rate faster than the over all market.

                  That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
                  =============================

                  I am HUGE! Bring me your finest meats and cheeses.

                  - $$$MR. MARKET$$$

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                  • hhansen
                    Junior Member
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 14

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Deaddog View Post
                    Thanks. After seeing the cost for premium tools I might have to create my own screens.

                    I'll see if I can't come up with something simpler that a lazy dog like myself might use.

                    We are looking for stocks making new highs that have excellent fundies.

                    Might be a bit of work but if one builds his own data base of top stocks and compares it to a list of new daily highs there should be some excellent candidates.
                    I think you can access the premium tools for free during the trial. I am using a trial account and seem to be able to use the tools to create the MM screens.

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                    • Deaddog
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 740

                      #11
                      Originally posted by mrmarket View Post
                      At the end of the day..a stock trading at its high is a stock which has been "discovered" by the market. If fundamantals are very good and its valuation is not extended, its stock price should continue to climb at a rate faster than the over all market.

                      That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
                      It's a great story and I know it will end with:

                      "And he became wealthy beyond his wildest dreams and lived happily ever after."
                      It is hard to find the Truth when you start your search with a preconceived notion of what the Truth will be.

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                      • Deaddog
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 740

                        #12
                        Originally posted by hhansen View Post
                        I think you can access the premium tools for free during the trial. I am using a trial account and seem to be able to use the tools to create the MM screens.
                        There looks to be a free trial for 3 days but I'll need something I can access for a long time. I'll probably continue with eIBD for fundamentals and use stockcharts for scanning.

                        I'm not above stealing ideas from MR Market but would like to become independant just in case His Hugeness stops sharing.
                        It is hard to find the Truth when you start your search with a preconceived notion of what the Truth will be.

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                        • mrmarket
                          Administrator
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 5971

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Deaddog View Post
                          It's a great story and I know it will end with:

                          "And he became wealthy beyond his wildest dreams and lived happily ever after."
                          Wealth is overrated. Happiness is not.
                          =============================

                          I am HUGE! Bring me your finest meats and cheeses.

                          - $$$MR. MARKET$$$

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                          • Deaddog
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 740

                            #14
                            Originally posted by mrmarket View Post
                            Wealth is overrated. Happiness is not.
                            Very true. Anyone can be happy, not everyone can be wealthy.

                            They say money can't buy happiness. But you can rent such a reasonable facsimile that most people can't tell the difference.
                            It is hard to find the Truth when you start your search with a preconceived notion of what the Truth will be.

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                            • Karel
                              Administrator
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 2199

                              #15
                              Originally posted by hhansen View Post
                              ...

                              After months and years this data could eventually provide some interesting insight as to whether hits on a particular screen or combination of screens produces more Top 5 entries and Mr Market picks. It could also be used to see if there is any correlation on MM pick success vs losses.

                              ...
                              I am all for this kind of stuff, not being as H U G E as His Hugeness. But count on years and several back-and-forths between bull, bear and otherwise markets. Some screens look like they are ready to pick red hot candidates in roaring bull markets, others to provide safe ones when the bears are on the loose.

                              Regards,

                              Karel
                              Last edited by Karel; 10-29-2010, 01:53 PM. Reason: boring typo
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