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  • billyjoe
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2003
    • 9014

    An Investing Method that is Working

    I bought my first stock in the 1960's and just a few more until the 1980's when my investments were mostly mutual funds. For the last 13 years I've been heavily trading stocks. After 45+ years the returns get better each year. Someone said that if you just make one less bad trade per year and one more good trade it makes an incredible difference in the long run.

    Study the methods of several traders and trading services. Even the best are rarely more than 60% accurate. Find something good from each source and use it in your master plan.

    I've studied IBD, Barchart, Vectorvest, Morpheus Trading, Zack's as well as IIC, Mr.Market, Skiracer, Riverbabe, Phoenix, and other individuals on this site. Check stocks they mention and run them through technical and fundamental screens. Study the chart patterns and see which are likely to be successful.

    Some trades will be just a bit longer than a day trade, super momentum stocks, others, swing trades lasting 4 days to 30 days. You'll have some that reach a set goal, say 15% and are sold. Throw in a few long termers. I like stable high div. jobs when you can reinvest the returns. Many of the best highest returners can be held for years multiplying like crazy.

    I study the most promising from the above , make my buys, then stick to a max. stop of 8-10% loss. The many yearly contests here show me that stocks dropping 10% rarely recover during the same year. You'll get a stock every year or 2 that drops after hours on bad news that blows by your 10% stop, but you'll recover.

    Especially with the dividend stocks you'll eventually get a core of stocks that are in the green and just get better with age. PM is an example of such a stock. I'm up over 100% on PM.

    Sell those that hit your stop as quickly as possible and reload with your good prospects. Some you think can't miss will end up being duds. Others your are concerned about will surprise you. Don't fall for the latest big name being touted by the pundits. Ever notice how many of Mr.Market's picks seem obscure when he first mentions them?

    Maybe I'm crazy , but I'm holding 38 stocks, some of them duplicates in 6 different accounts. Not counting about 5 mutual funds, these are my gains/losses on current holdings. Longest held stocks 5 years, shortest, 2 days. Gains 150%,143%, 134%, 133%,84%, 72%, 68%, 67%, 51%, 45%, 43%, 38%, 32%, 31%, 30%, 25%, 18%, 18%, 17%, 15%, 14%, 14%, 8%, 6%, 5%, 4%, 3%, 2%. Losing stocks 10 at -1% to -5%.

    As you can guess, the 100%ers are the dividend reinvestors such as PM and HQL but not always as in the case AAPL bought for my son and never sold. I cashed in big time with AAPL and am recently back in it.

    Don't dwell on your losing trades. Sell them and take them off your watch list. The majority are better off gone once the trade sours.

    If your good picks out number your bad and you get rid of the bad ones before they stink up the joint you'll be more successful each year.

    ----------------billy
  • mrmarket
    Administrator
    • Sep 2003
    • 5971

    #2
    Originally posted by billyjoe View Post
    I bought my first stock in the 1960's and just a few more until the 1980's when my investments were mostly mutual funds. For the last 13 years I've been heavily trading stocks. After 45+ years the returns get better each year. Someone said that if you just make one less bad trade per year and one more good trade it makes an incredible difference in the long run.

    Study the methods of several traders and trading services. Even the best are rarely more than 60% accurate. Find something good from each source and use it in your master plan.

    I've studied IBD, Barchart, Vectorvest, Morpheus Trading, Zack's as well as IIC, Mr.Market, Skiracer, Riverbabe, Phoenix, and other individuals on this site. Check stocks they mention and run them through technical and fundamental screens. Study the chart patterns and see which are likely to be successful.

    Some trades will be just a bit longer than a day trade, super momentum stocks, others, swing trades lasting 4 days to 30 days. You'll have some that reach a set goal, say 15% and are sold. Throw in a few long termers. I like stable high div. jobs when you can reinvest the returns. Many of the best highest returners can be held for years multiplying like crazy.

    I study the most promising from the above , make my buys, then stick to a max. stop of 8-10% loss. The many yearly contests here show me that stocks dropping 10% rarely recover during the same year. You'll get a stock every year or 2 that drops after hours on bad news that blows by your 10% stop, but you'll recover.

    Especially with the dividend stocks you'll eventually get a core of stocks that are in the green and just get better with age. PM is an example of such a stock. I'm up over 100% on PM.

    Sell those that hit your stop as quickly as possible and reload with your good prospects. Some you think can't miss will end up being duds. Others your are concerned about will surprise you. Don't fall for the latest big name being touted by the pundits. Ever notice how many of Mr.Market's picks seem obscure when he first mentions them?

    Maybe I'm crazy , but I'm holding 38 stocks, some of them duplicates in 6 different accounts. Not counting about 5 mutual funds, these are my gains/losses on current holdings. Longest held stocks 5 years, shortest, 2 days. Gains 150%,143%, 134%, 133%,84%, 72%, 68%, 67%, 51%, 45%, 43%, 38%, 32%, 31%, 30%, 25%, 18%, 18%, 17%, 15%, 14%, 14%, 8%, 6%, 5%, 4%, 3%, 2%. Losing stocks 10 at -1% to -5%.

    As you can guess, the 100%ers are the dividend reinvestors such as PM and HQL but not always as in the case AAPL bought for my son and never sold. I cashed in big time with AAPL and am recently back in it.

    Don't dwell on your losing trades. Sell them and take them off your watch list. The majority are better off gone once the trade sours.

    If your good picks out number your bad and you get rid of the bad ones before they stink up the joint you'll be more successful each year.

    ----------------billy
    Congrats Billyjoe.....average returns are for average investors. Superior returns are for superior investors. You are clearly in the latter category!
    =============================

    I am HUGE! Bring me your finest meats and cheeses.

    - $$$MR. MARKET$$$

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    • riverbabe
      Senior Member
      • May 2005
      • 3373

      #3
      Very nice billy! You are superior indeed!

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      • #4
        Great words of wisdom, thank you

        Thank you Billy Joe,
        I vote for this to be a sticky.

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        • jiesen
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2003
          • 5320

          #5
          Originally posted by riverbabe View Post
          Very nice billy! You are superior indeed!
          Agreed, and well done!!! These are superior results.

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          • em26jamie
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 137

            #6
            Yes. The dividend stocks are the way to go. I've been holding TNH since 2006 and the dividends alone have already paid for my initial purchase. If things keep steady for AGNC, the same will be true for it in 3 years. Of all the things I've tried, I found that the only tried and true money maker in the stock market for the little guys like us is the long term dividend reinvestment.

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            • Phoenix7
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2011
              • 3663

              #7
              4 dividend kings

              Billie check out this 5 YR chart http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=P...rce=undefined;

              Can anyone name others so we can add to the winner's circle?

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              • billyjoe
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2003
                • 9014

                #8
                Ok,Phoenix, Here's another long time favorite of mine. Up well over 100%. Pays about 8% dividend. Don't know how much of my gain is from reinvestment.




                ------------------billy

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                • em26jamie
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 137

                  #9
                  How about O, KMP, and TNH?

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                  • Phoenix7
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2011
                    • 3663

                    #10
                    Originally posted by billyjoe View Post
                    Ok,Phoenix, Here's another long time favorite of mine. Up well over 100%. Pays about 8% dividend. Don't know how much of my gain is from reinvestment.




                    ------------------billy

                    OK Billy I added HQL to the Chart ...Here ya go!

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                    • Phoenix7
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2011
                      • 3663

                      #11
                      Will add them to the chart !

                      Originally posted by em26jamie View Post
                      How about O, KMP, and TNH?
                      O is already on the chart I will add KMP and TNH!

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