7 Biggest Mistakes New Stock Traders Make - what is your opinion?

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  • JB Academy
    Junior Member
    • Mar 2014
    • 1

    7 Biggest Mistakes New Stock Traders Make - what is your opinion?

    1. FAILURE TO INVEST IN PRACTICE As a tourist and beginner poker player, if you were to sit down next to Johnny Chan in Vegas, who won the 1987 and 1988 World Series of Poker main events, it’s highly likely he’d clean you out in no time at all. Wall Street is the same as poker, if you win somebody else loses so get educated before getting cleaned out. TD Ameritrade’s paperMoney is a groundbreaking paper trading application available as a downloadable platform. With paperMoney, you have access to a virtual margin account and $100,000 of “play money.”* As you do, your confidence will grow. Don’t play poker with Johnny Chan until you’re ready, trust me on this one. If you want to build wealth on Wall Street, learn how to do it first, I can teach you here…https://mr141.infusionsoft.com/go/jbpmain/jbpa2515/

    2. DAY TRADING Last week I read a scary statistic that 95% of people who attempt to be a day trader lose money. Day trading isn’t for everyone as it requires the ability to think fast while handling extreme levels of stress. I have nothing against day trading, in fact it’s very popular, but if you’re a beginner STAY AWAY! If you want to become a day trader use the paperMoney account to practice and do NOT skimp on the amount of time you practice this. I’ve seen people flush money down the drain so fast day trading it’d make you sick. If it’s a true dream of yours we’ve got the biggest stock chat https://mr141.infusionsoft.com/go/jbpmain/jbpa2515/ on Wall Street full of pros.

    3. OPTIONS TRADING There’s a reason your broker requires and additional application here. There are huge returns in options so it attracts traders with small accounts, when they are in fact the last traders who should be participating in this type of volatile trading. Remember, if there’s huge returns, somebody is on the other side of that return i.e. huge losses too. Trust me when I say trading options before you’re an expert trader is like having a loaded gun laying around, something very bad is going to happen sooner or later. I firmly believe options should require a degree but Wall Street isn’t setup that way so be careful. I warn against options trading in my welcome email yet this is the #1 way I see beginners blow up there account losing all their money. There’s nothing wrong with trying to learn options, obviously many are successful at it but if you’re a beginner don’t even think about it. You’ll thank me later as you hear the horror stories from guys and gals in chat who’ve either messed up themselves and had to rebuild or knows someone who did. Again, this is the #1 way I see traders blow up and those emails always start with, “I wish I listened to you.”

    4. USING LEVERAGE I do not trade on leverage, period. Yes, I have a margin account, but I’m almost never over my cash balance. Trading stocks on borrowed money is asking for trouble. I don’t get emails often but when I do it’s painful to read.
    No matter how good the stock looks, it’s never good enough to get a 2nd mortgage. I’ve written about why I don’t believe in borrowing money of any kind to include car loans, credit cards, and even mortgages so you better believe I don’t borrow to trade volatile stocks.

    5. HOLDING THROUGH EVENTS Holding through events is what I’d consider gambling, but unlike Vegas, there’s no free entertainment and booze. No matter how much you think you know about a company’s earnings, FDA ruling, etc… it’s still 50/50. Let’s be honest, the only people who know for sure are insiders and since it’s illegal to trade on that information it’s impossible to have an advantage. Remember, I’m referring to swing trading, not long term trading. I can’t tell you how many emails I get from clients that start out, “I wish I didn’t hold through earnings.” Event trading just isn’t a part of my strategy. I do not hold through earnings, FDA rulings, court rulings or anything of that nature, it’s simply too risky and I see more people get hurt than win here.

    6. FAILURE TO CUT LOSSES QUICKLY This is my #1 rule … CUT LOSSES QUICKLY. To cut losses quickly you must enter the trade with a game plan. Entering a day trade and turning into a swing trade because it went against you can be extremely risky. Entering a day trade, turning it into a swing trade and then turning into a long term trade is even worse. You might be laughing right now but I see it happen all of the time. When I take a swing trade, defined by Investopedia as a 1 – 4 day hold, I’m looking for my profit during that time. Very rarely do I stretch it unless there’s a good reason. Failure to have discipline in this area will cause more problems than you can imagine. First, you’re trading without a plan – that’s dangerous and undisciplined. Second, while your money is tied up in a loser you’re missing out on winners. Let me give you an example. Last week I woke up to bad news on one of my stocks. Since I didn’t expect this news and my stop loss was hit, it was time to move on. It’s painful losing money on trades but losing is part of the strategy I teach because nobody can escape it and be right 100% of the time, so you better have a plan on how to handle it, which I do and teach. That same stock opened lower the day after I sold it, so had I not taken the losses, even more losses and stress would have piled up. Even more important, since I wasn’t distracted with the losing trade I was able to hit 3 winners to finish the week which recouped all of the losses and then some. Had I sat on the loser, I’d have missed the winners and still be at a loss hoping the loser comes back. Bottom line is this. You don’t have to agree with me here but you better have a plan because if you don’t you won’t know what to do when the unexpected happens. I can’t tell you how many, “I’m stuck in XYZ” emails I get and each time I gently remind my client, “You are not stuck in anything, you have choices.” Be disciplined, you’ll thank me later. By the way, I learned this the hard way because much of what’s written above, I’ve done myself in the past but not anymore.

    7. NOT TAKING PROFITS In Kindergarten Cop Arnold Schwarzeneggar was establishing classroom rules when he bursted out, “YOU LACK DISCIPLINE” to the students. I think we can all agree it’s normal for *a kid to lack discipline but there’s no room for it with adults on Wall Street. Stocks go up and down daily, they are dynamic. If you enter a trade and you don’t know what your exit is, how on earth will you determine when it’s time to get out?! How many times have you been up nicely on a trade only to give back all of your profits and sometimes worse, take a loss. That’s sickening! GREEN is better than EVEN, EVEN is better than RED. This means if you get GREEN on a trade, in most cases do not let the money slip away, however small it is. And if you get back to even by not taking profit, by all means do not take a loss. Hoping it comes back is not a solution either, all that matters is what you think the trade will do next. Like many of the DO NOTs listed here, I’ve learned the hard way here. Bottom line is this, establish a consistent method for how you plan to exit trades. For me it’s simple, I look for trading ranges of 20% and inside those ranges I try to capture 5-10% knowing I’ll never get a perfect entry or exit. And I never want to hear, “ I sold too soon” . Goodness, if the stock continues to advance you should be happy you’re picking the right trades. NEVER going to catch the top consistently but you can capture consistent 5-10% returns. I’m like a robot in this regard, I set my sell for half my position at 5% profit and let the rest ride for 10% profit. Therefore, a winning trade for me is about 7% profit. Do that consistently and you’d be shocked how fast profits add up. Failure to have a profit plan within your trading strategy is asking to fail. Be disciplined, know what you’re looking for on your swing trades and stick to it. Once you take this initiative you’ll find you are in fact in control and that’s the only way to stay alive on Wall Street.

    Posted on February 16, 2014 in Blog Posts, Header by JB - See more at: https://mr141.infusionsoft.com/go/jbpmain/jbpa2515/
  • Louetta
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2003
    • 2331

    #2
    Well you did say these are for beginning investors but consider number 6 and Mr. Market (NOT a beginning investor). He NEVER cuts losses. He buys a stock and holds it forever until it gains 15%. If it doesn't, there is nothing in his system to stop him from holding a stock right into Chapter 11 (or 7). Yet he enjoys a kind of guru status. Is he wrong in this?

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    • investorone

      #3
      I vote for #4 as this to me is very important vis-a-vis no leverage.

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      • Louetta
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2003
        • 2331

        #4
        I wonder about #5, not holding thru events. Warren Buffett, whom many consider the most successful investor of our time, says when he finds a good company he buys it, or some of its stock. Right now. The theory being he does not know what events will occur but figures if its a good company it will fair well over time, regardless.

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        • tiedyed1
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2009
          • 599

          #5
          Interesting list of valid factors to consider, as there are so many different types of investors where even generalizations do not cover everyone.

          My toughest challenge is knowing when to sell. I buy based on fundamentals and my belief in the company's management and growth. Selling on a 10-15% gain is great, but what about choosing those companies that will give you a multi-bagger return?

          Holding into events is something I do and when back tracking my stats there were more pluses than negatives, but overall this may be a sound practice. (Most recently I held HCI through earnings which was a mistake, setting me back to square one where my average cost is and wiping out a 15% gain.)

          I also will write covered calls going into an event. If the stock price dips I just made out on my covered calls to hedge that loss. If the stock pops I get called out with a nice profit in place, but maybe not as nice if I did not have the covered call.

          I do buy call options as well as sell puts, both which are way out (12-20 months) to leverage many more shares than I could normally afford.
          (My largest option position is with BAC, holding both Jan 2015 and Jan 2016 call options, with in the money strike prices from 12 to 17.)
          However, I have been managing my own stock portfolio since 1993 and have definitely learned from my mistakes.

          One of my mentors constantly reminds me that long term investors always make out better than traders. For the most part I believe this to be true.
          However, my biggest challenge remains: when is the time to sell?

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          • billyjoe
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2003
            • 9014

            #6
            tiedied, I've got several retirement accounts that I trade for my wife and myself. I keep track of the balances daily and noticed the one traded the most doesn't do as well as the others. The 2 combined that have many long term holds with little trading are up 11.03% since last May 8th while the heavily traded account is up only 3.9% in the same time period.

            ------------------billy

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            • Louetta
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2003
              • 2331

              #7
              Originally posted by tiedyed1 View Post

              ... snip ...

              (My largest option position is with BAC, holding both Jan 2015 and Jan 2016 call options, with in the money strike prices from 12 to 17.)
              Interesting. I have the BAC Jan 2015 $10 call. At some point have to roll it out to 2016. About 1/2 my money is in in the money 1/2015 and 1/2016 calls.

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