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  • billyjoe
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2003
    • 9014

    Don't Buy from "Buy" lists !

    signed up for this e-mail months ago and forgot about it. Got 3 month update today. I'd have to agree with the guy. Watch video if you can. Only 2 minutes long.



    -----------------billy
  • Phoenix7
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2011
    • 3663

    #2
    Originally posted by billyjoe View Post
    signed up for this e-mail months ago and forgot about it. Got 3 month update today. I'd have to agree with the guy. Watch video if you can. Only 2 minutes long.



    -----------------billy
    Billie no more courses for me ........I'm retired and have no time to listen to some wind bag teach a course, and for health reasons I stay away from the greasy barbecues. I much prefer an excellent Turkey Club down at a Go Go bar a few towns over. The sandwich is delicious, and the girls are gorgeous! Much better than looking at some pompous jack wagon LOL! Billie bottom line ...I would love to see some of his picks and how they perform 6 months later, and I would venture to say that you can probably learn more right at www.mrmarketishuge.com for FREE!

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    • billyjoe
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2003
      • 9014

      #3
      Just found this. Rather unbelievable. http://www.cbsnews.com/news/a-statis...s-skill-level/

      -------------billy

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      • billyjoe
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2003
        • 9014

        #4
        and this http://www.cxoadvisory.com/gurus/ scroll down to see names and accuracy. Some surprises on this list.

        ----------------billy

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        • Louetta
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2003
          • 2331

          #5
          Originally posted by billyjoe View Post
          and this http://www.cxoadvisory.com/gurus/ scroll down to see names and accuracy. Some surprises on this list.

          ----------------billy
          Thank you muchly, Billy.

          Interesting to see Gary Schilling near the bottom. He appears frequently on both CNBC and Bloomberg, just yesterday. Also Abby Joseph Cohen. Don't see that much of her any more. Ken Fisher is right at the top. I get more mail from him than people I know.

          Would kill to see a report on the Motley Fool.

          I see Cabot near the top. They are in Salem, MA, near me. As mentioned on their home page they are in what used to be the North Salem branch of the public library which the city closed to save money. A small but very beautiful kind of Jeffersonian building. Salem has some really bitching architecture. If you are ever there skip the Witch House, park your car and walk down Chestnut Street and environs. Blow you away.

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          • blindsquirrel
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2014
            • 286

            #6
            Entry and exit points are key to whether or not a pick is good or bad. I've made money on bad picks just by exiting early or entering late, and I've lost on great picks by botching the entry or exit. However, there were two or three guys listed at the top that had an impressive percentage. Close to 70% is pretty amazing.
            Math doesn't lie, but people do.

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            • billyjoe
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2003
              • 9014

              #7
              Louetta, I was in Salem once. I think it was before 1980. Happened to run into the official witch of Salem. A large imposing woman nearly 6'2" tall. Later saw her in National Geographic in an issue featuring Salem. An old college roommate went back to school in Plymouth NH. We toured the Boston area. Was impressed seeing Ben Franklin's parents' tombstones in the old Granary Burial Ground.

              --------------billy

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              • mimo_100
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2003
                • 1784

                #8
                Originally posted by billyjoe View Post
                Just found this. Rather unbelievable. http://www.cbsnews.com/news/a-statis...s-skill-level/

                -------------billy




                Here is a good article on Jim Cramer's "Buy List"





                and a link to the David O. England website, the man who is challenging him.





                For reference, here are the 49 stocks Cramer recommended in his April 6, 2015 column: (percent up/down as of June 1, 2015)


                AutoNation AN, +0.37%
                AutoZone AZO, +0.77%
                CarMax KMX, -0.29%
                Cracker Barrel Old Country Store CBRL, -2.49%
                Costco Wholesale COST, +0.09%
                CVS Health CVS, +0.38%
                Darden Restaurants DRI, -0.57%
                Dillard's DDS, +3.97%
                Dick's Sporting Goods DKS, +0.50%
                Dollar Tree DLTR, -0.54%
                Dollar General DG, -0.11%
                Hanesbrands HBI, +0.41%
                Jack in the Box JACK, -0.33%
                Jarden JAH, -0.83%
                L Brands LB, +0.74%
                Kroger KR, +0.71%
                Kohl's KSS, -0.55%
                Macy's M, +7.16%
                Ross Stores ROST, +0.29%
                Under Armour UA, -0.21%
                Urban Outfitters URBN, -1.38%
                Actavis US:ACT
                AmerisourceBergen ABC, +0.34%
                Boston Scientific BSX, -0.56%
                Cardinal Health CAH, +0.67%
                Cerner CERN, +0.90%
                Cigna CI, +0.80%
                Edwards Lifesciences EW, -0.11%
                Humana HUM, +0.77%
                Medtronic MDT, +0.11%
                McKesson MCK, +0.21%
                Perrigo PRGO, -0.91%
                UnitedHealth Group UNH, +0.20%
                Hormel Foods HRL, -0.84%
                J.M. Smucker SJM, -1.21%
                Mondelez International MDLZ, -1.55%
                Monster Beverage MNST, +0.20%
                Toll Brothers TOL, -1.04%
                D.R. Horton DHI, -1.32%
                Lennar LEN, -0.47%
                Analog Devices ADI, +0.48%
                Avago Technologies AVGO, -0.35%
                Cypress Semiconductor CY, -1.47%
                Qorvo QRVO, +0.22%
                Skyworks Solutions SWKS, -0.84%
                CyberArk Software CYBR, -2.60%
                FireEye FEYE, -1.89%
                Fortinet FTNT, -0.84%
                Palo Alto Networks PANW, +0.13%
                Last edited by mimo_100; 07-15-2015, 04:08 PM.
                Tim - Retired Problem Solver

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                • mimo_100
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 1784

                  #9
                  Louetta,

                  Regarding the Motley Fool, they mostly try to get people to subscribe to their portfolios of stocks, rather than recommend individual stocks for purchase. Although, now that I am thinking, they may have a service where they recommend individual issues. It would be interesting for someone to track the Fool's CAPS Community to see how the community's 5 Star (best) and 1 Star (worst) stocks have fared over the years.
                  Tim - Retired Problem Solver

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                  • billyjoe
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2003
                    • 9014

                    #10
                    I also wondered about the accuracy of Motley Fool's CAPS ratings. Lost interest in Motley Fool shortly after they started heavily pushing DDD as the next great buy and hold stock. This chart shows you DDD from then till today. http://finviz.com/quote.ashx?t=ddd DDD proved to be another one of those "unlimited potential " stocks. There are hundreds of them out there.

                    --------------------billy

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                    • Louetta
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 2331

                      #11
                      Found this link interesting because the 15 year time period corresponds almost exactly to my trading lifetime (turned 30 last month) and includes vicious bear and decent bull periods.



                      Nate's Notes looks kind of interesting. Never heard of him. Any feedback on him from folks? Going to set up a little portfolio based on the very limited stuff in his recent blogs and see how he does. Doesn't seem to have any easy, cheap way to get a decent trial.

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                      • riverbabe
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2005
                        • 3373

                        #12
                        Originally posted by mimo_100 View Post
                        Here is a good article on Jim Cramer's "Buy List"





                        and a link to the David O. England website, the man who is challenging him.





                        For reference, here are the 49 stocks Cramer recommended in his April 6, 2015 column: (percent up/down as of June 1, 2015)


                        AutoNation AN, +0.37%
                        AutoZone AZO, +0.77%
                        CarMax KMX, -0.29%
                        Cracker Barrel Old Country Store CBRL, -2.49%
                        Costco Wholesale COST, +0.09%
                        CVS Health CVS, +0.38%
                        Darden Restaurants DRI, -0.57%
                        Dillard's DDS, +3.97%
                        Dick's Sporting Goods DKS, +0.50%
                        Dollar Tree DLTR, -0.54%
                        Dollar General DG, -0.11%
                        Hanesbrands HBI, +0.41%
                        Jack in the Box JACK, -0.33%
                        Jarden JAH, -0.83%
                        L Brands LB, +0.74%
                        Kroger KR, +0.71%
                        Kohl's KSS, -0.55%
                        Macy's M, +7.16%
                        Ross Stores ROST, +0.29%
                        Under Armour UA, -0.21%
                        Urban Outfitters URBN, -1.38%
                        Actavis US:ACT
                        AmerisourceBergen ABC, +0.34%
                        Boston Scientific BSX, -0.56%
                        Cardinal Health CAH, +0.67%
                        Cerner CERN, +0.90%
                        Cigna CI, +0.80%
                        Edwards Lifesciences EW, -0.11%
                        Humana HUM, +0.77%
                        Medtronic MDT, +0.11%
                        McKesson MCK, +0.21%
                        Perrigo PRGO, -0.91%
                        UnitedHealth Group UNH, +0.20%
                        Hormel Foods HRL, -0.84%
                        J.M. Smucker SJM, -1.21%
                        Mondelez International MDLZ, -1.55%
                        Monster Beverage MNST, +0.20%
                        Toll Brothers TOL, -1.04%
                        D.R. Horton DHI, -1.32%
                        Lennar LEN, -0.47%
                        Analog Devices ADI, +0.48%
                        Avago Technologies AVGO, -0.35%
                        Cypress Semiconductor CY, -1.47%
                        Qorvo QRVO, +0.22%
                        Skyworks Solutions SWKS, -0.84%
                        CyberArk Software CYBR, -2.60%
                        FireEye FEYE, -1.89%
                        Fortinet FTNT, -0.84%
                        Palo Alto Networks PANW, +0.13%
                        Methinks he needs to learn about market timing.

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                        • billyjoe
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2003
                          • 9014

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Louetta View Post
                          Found this link interesting because the 15 year time period corresponds almost exactly to my trading lifetime (turned 30 last month) and includes vicious bear and decent bull periods.



                          Nate's Notes looks kind of interesting. Never heard of him. Any feedback on him from folks? Going to set up a little portfolio based on the very limited stuff in his recent blogs and see how he does. Doesn't seem to have any easy, cheap way to get a decent trial.
                          Louetta, I'm very familiar with Nate's Notes. I've talked to him on the phone. He gave me a couple free months then knocked $100 or gave me two years for the price of one. I didn't ask him for a deal. Just general questions about his newsletter. I'm not currently subscribing. He might only add a couple new picks each year. Very patient with his picks, he might hold for 5 years or more. Not a lot of action packed excitement , but he has some great winners. One of his I've held for years is HQL. Up over 250% and I've got it in several accounts. Call him up. He's as good as advertised. Recently started The Wagmore Letter selling covered calls.

                          ------------------billy

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                          • mimo_100
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 1784

                            #14
                            Originally posted by billyjoe View Post
                            I also wondered about the accuracy of Motley Fool's CAPS ratings. Lost interest in Motley Fool shortly after they started heavily pushing DDD as the next great buy and hold stock. This chart shows you DDD from then till today. http://finviz.com/quote.ashx?t=ddd DDD proved to be another one of those "unlimited potential " stocks. There are hundreds of them out there.

                            --------------------billy


                            billy,


                            There are lots of examples of stocks whose price ballooned out of sight because of perceived future earnings. Look at the marijuana stocks then and now. I still believe that one big key to making a profit in stocks is buying at the "right" price. You make money when you buy, not when you sell.


                            I have been investigating market prophit, a company that purports to take the pulse of the "crowd" in the "cloud." They intimate that their stats can predict movement of interest rates and stock prices by sampling social media (Twitter, etc.). If you or anyone reading this has looked at this concept, I would love to hear your comments.


                            As an aside, I have noticed more of our members using the Louetta-initiated "methinks" in their posts. There is a slow branding happening. Methinks that soon the MrMarket forum will become well-known for its "methinking" posts. LOL!
                            Tim - Retired Problem Solver

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                            • jiesen
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 5320

                              #15
                              Methinks is better thank groupthinks. Methinks.

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