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  • New-born baby
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    • Apr 2004
    • 6095

    Winning Streaks/Losing Streaks

    Bored? Depressed that the NAZ has been down 4 straight days to start '05?Then read this . . . .

    LOSING STREAKS
    Since 1930, the Dow Jones Industrial Average has never had a streak of 14 up days in a row. In fact, only one "winning" streak of 13 has happened since then.

    Conversely, the DJIA has never had 13 down days in a row. In fact, it has only had one 12 day losing streak in that time.

    Currently, the NASDAQ has had four losing days in a row, counting today's minor loss at the end. In the history of the Dow since 1930, there have been only 306 4-day losing streaks, and only 146 5-day losing streaks. The odds of a five day losing streak, if you already have had a 4 day losing streak, is only 25%.

    Here are the odds, according to the history of the Dow, of a losing streak according to the number of days: If you have one down day, then the odds of
    a 2nd day-55%/ If you have a two day losing streak, the odds of a 3rd day-27%; 4 day-26%; 5 day-25%; 6 day-23%; 7 day-20%;
    8 day-14%; 9 day-13%; 10 day-10%; 11 day-100%; 12 day-33%; 13-has never yet happened.

    WINNING STREAKS

    2 day-60% 3 day-33% 4 day-26% 5 days-25% 6 days-31% 7 day-20%
    8 day-25% 9 day-41% 10 day-29% 11 day-14% 12 day-14% 13 day-50%

    Long winning streaks are rare: since 1930, streaks of:
    13--happened once
    12--happened once
    11--only twice (one ended at twelve days, the other at thirteen!) So in effect, there have been no 11 day winning streaks in 75 years!
    10--7 streaks
    9--14
    8--24
    7--34

    LESSONS:
    1. A green first day is followed by a green second day 60% of the time.
    2. A red first day is followed by a red second day 55% of the time.
    3. But three red days in a row happens only 27% of the time. And three greens only 33% of the time.
    4. Prices cannot go up forever.
    5. Prices cannot go down forever (although the Dow fell all the way to 34 in 1934).

    I hope that this information helps you sleep better tonight.
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  • mooddude
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    • Dec 2004
    • 187

    #2
    Thanks. What is the source of this information?

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    • New-born baby
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2004
      • 6095

      #3
      Winner & Losers source

      Mooddude,

      The source is research done by Damir Smitlener, who manages a private hedge fund. He researched the history of the Dow as indicated above. I think the info ought to give us an added edge in our investing, particularly if we invest by buying into weakness, and selling into strength.

      Best investing to you!
      pivot calculator *current oil price*My stock picking method*Charting Lesson of the Week:BEAR FLAG PATTERN

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      • Gatorman
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        • Dec 2004
        • 448

        #4
        Excellent post. It is this kind of positive perspective that we need to assume during downturns. Emotions can be wonderful but also destructive. An analysis such as this is always welcome.

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        • New-born baby
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2004
          • 6095

          #5
          1st Week of January Effect

          Please note:

          Last week, the first week of January, the market was down. Since 1950, if the market was down the first week of January, 45% of the time the market was down for the entire year.

          If the market is down for the entire month of January, 58% of the time the market was down for the entire year.

          The NAZ has been particularly weak this past week.

          The Rhodes Report says that last week's bearish reversal pattern was significant, pointing to exhaustion, and points to lower prices in the weeks ahead. He is bearish on the market for January. In fact, he says that if the S&P falls to 1165 or lower (just 21 pts south of here), then the market rally that started in Oct, 2002 is over. He thinks rising interest rates will doom any rally, and speculates that any price rally is "remote." Spike, do you think the bear is back? Time to switch avatars. . . and time to start looking for shorts.
          Last edited by New-born baby; 01-09-2005, 10:43 PM.
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          • spikefader
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2004
            • 7175

            #6
            Originally posted by New-born baby
            Please note:

            Last week, the first week of January, the market was down. Since 1950, if the market was down the first week of January, 45% of the time the market was down for the entire year.

            If the market is down for the entire month of January, 58% of the time the market was down for the entire year.

            The NAZ has been particularly weak this past week.

            The Rhodes Report says that last week's bearish reversal pattern was significant, pointing to exhaustion, and points to lower prices in the weeks ahead. He is bearish on the market for January. In fact, he says that if the S&P falls to 1165 or lower (just 21 pts south of here), then the market rally that started in Oct, 2002 is over. He thinks rising interest rates will doom any rally, and speculates that any price rally is "remote." Spike, do you think the bear is back? Time to switch avatars. . . and time to start looking for shorts.
            LOL hilarious avatar.
            Actually, I remain bullish. My personal 'Vector' indicator turned bullish again on Thursday close (I got lazy and misread it and didn't realize my error until Fri close), so I missed a nice S1 QQQQ entry. So due to this short-term bullish bias I am buying S1 or the first significant price support I see for QQQQ tomorrow.
            I also posted a weekly QQQQ chart the other day, showing a nice channel long week last week. And Tues thru Fri there were daily channel long days (although the channel expanded on Wed which I read as a warning to long so I'll be cautious with stops as always). But the potential is there for a good solid bounce. Whether the market delivers is another thing, but I'll be putting my money on it doing so this week

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            • New-born baby
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2004
              • 6095

              #7
              Spikes's QQQQQQQQQ

              Spike,

              You've got me going on the qqqq (they keep adding q's. When's it going to end?). I think the qqqq are traded much more consistently by technical analysis, which you are good at. One of these days I'm going to jump in with you.
              pivot calculator *current oil price*My stock picking method*Charting Lesson of the Week:BEAR FLAG PATTERN

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              • spikefader
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2004
                • 7175

                #8
                Originally posted by New-born baby
                Spike,

                You've got me going on the qqqq (they keep adding q's. When's it going to end?). I think the qqqq are traded much more consistently by technical analysis, which you are good at. One of these days I'm going to jump in with you.
                LOL By 2010 it may be QQQQQQQQQ and it'll take so long to enter the ticker that it will be too much effort to daytrade.

                Thanks, lately perhaps good at seeing them frustrate me Eventually I will snag another good entry and then vector stay bullish for a couple weeks. All I have to do is stay focussed and disciplined and it'll happen....I hope the one you take is the one that produces!

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