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  • spikefader
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2004
    • 7175

    Originally posted by peanuts View Post
    WOW!

    I'm down 3% overall, just this morning. The run-up recently has been nice, so it doesn't seem like it's too bad, but I am going to be dropping a lot of my stocks throughout the day, and keep cash ready for the next big move in either direction.
    Peanuts, wise move dude. Potential for correction is very high now. I think we have a short-term top and correctives are about to be delivered rather quickly. I'm looking for 400-800 point Dow correction. I also suspect AAPL will disappoint tonight, and that'll be some bear fuel. After hours action will be worth watching. Good shorts are YHOO EBAY and IMCL. Caution longs!!

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    • Originally posted by Lyehopper View Post
      Mild sheet steel is just mild sheet steel Billy. Maybe the older car bodies of the 50's and 60's were made from a thicker gage and it's obvious that the construction was quite different but I'll bet the alloy of the steel was pretty much the same. Now it might be the cars made in the 70's just had "bad coatings" on them. Mid 70's Chevy pickups were notorius for rusting out very early.
      steel of old was not galvanized. All modern cars are made from galvanized sheet metal. This is also the bone of contention with car makers since its the galv. steel that has the highest tariffs and they're fighting tooth and nail to get those tariffs removed.

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      • peanuts
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2006
        • 3365

        Originally posted by Lyehopper View Post
        Peanuts, Excuse me for being such an uneducated redneck but how does one become "educated" in "big picture" steel commodity evaluation? Is there a particular steel correspondence course I can order to further my education? I wonder how many toasters you can make with the steel consumed in one small commercial steel building that is not built due to interest rates or other economic conditions? Maybe that kind of thing is discussed in the course?
        Lye, come on, dude. You rednecks drive me crazy sometimes. Do you need to see my credentials?

        I wonder how many people are in China compared to the US... hmm, we just hit 300 Million today, China has 4 times that. And, I would venture to guess that less than half of those 1.2 Billion people have toasters. Your vision is sharp, but your scope is off.

        You'll regret that you didn't build that small commercial steel building now instead of waiting until interest rates are even higher... along with the price of steel. Consolidation will keep pricing advantage with the producers.
        Hide not your talents.
        They for use were made.
        What's a sundial in the shade?

        - Benjamin Franklin

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        • peanuts
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2006
          • 3365

          Originally posted by Tatnic View Post
          ...All modern cars are made from galvanized sheet metal...
          Really? The DeLorean and the Saturn are the only cars I know of which were made of non-rusting body parts...

          Industrial coatings have been drastically improved through material science advancements since the 70's
          Steel processing technology has improved the quality of steel made each decade
          Hide not your talents.
          They for use were made.
          What's a sundial in the shade?

          - Benjamin Franklin

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          • Lyehopper
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2004
            • 3678

            Originally posted by peanuts View Post
            Really? The DeLorean and the Saturn are the only cars I know of which were made of non-rusting body parts...

            Industrial coatings have been drastically improved through material science advancements since the 70's
            Steel processing technology has improved the quality of steel made each decade
            So you're saying that the reason a Chevy truck manufactured in 1975 rusted out quicker than one made in 2005 is because the mild steel was inferior (and had too much iron) in the year 1975 as compared with today? .... Well yes, that is what you said. You pull this stuff right out of your ass don't you Peanuts?....LOL!
            BEEF!... it's whats for dinner!

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            • peanuts
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2006
              • 3365

              Originally posted by Lyehopper View Post
              So you're saying that the reason a Chevy truck manufactured in 1975 rusted out quicker than one made in 2005 is because the mild steel was inferior (and had too much iron) in the year 1975 as compared with today? .... Well yes, that is what you said. You pull this stuff right out of your ass don't you Peanuts?....LOL!
              careful Lye, there is a bit of seriousness to me
              Hide not your talents.
              They for use were made.
              What's a sundial in the shade?

              - Benjamin Franklin

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              • billyjoe
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2003
                • 9014

                Originally posted by Lyehopper View Post
                So you're saying that the reason a Chevy truck manufactured in 1975 rusted out quicker than one made in 2005 is because the mild steel was inferior (and had too much iron) in the year 1975 as compared with today? .... Well yes, that is what you said. You pull this stuff right out of your ass don't you Peanuts?....LOL!

                Sorry if I opened a can of worms here. Tell yah what. You boys make up and I'll give you each a nice '75 Dodge Monaco. Pick them up behind my barn . They may be in several pieces.

                -------------billyjoe

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                • Originally posted by peanuts View Post
                  Really? The DeLorean and the Saturn are the only cars I know of which were made of non-rusting body parts...

                  Industrial coatings have been drastically improved through material science advancements since the 70's
                  Steel processing technology has improved the quality of steel made each decade
                  the delorean was made of stainless...the saturn is plastic near as I can tell.

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                  • Lyehopper
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 3678

                    Originally posted by billyjoe View Post
                    Sorry if I opened a can of worms here. Tell yah what. You boys make up and I'll give you each a nice '75 Dodge Monaco. Pick them up behind my barn . They may be in several pieces.

                    -------------billyjoe
                    My research shows that pre-1982 cans used in your basic "can of worms" were all galvanized due to high iron content and poor metal mixing at the can rolling mills.... I am an expert on cans of worms.
                    BEEF!... it's whats for dinner!

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                    • New-born baby
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2004
                      • 6095

                      Buy Dxd

                      Originally posted by spikefader View Post
                      Peanuts, wise move dude. Potential for correction is very high now. I think we have a short-term top and correctives are about to be delivered rather quickly. I'm looking for 400-800 point Dow correction. I also suspect AAPL will disappoint tonight, and that'll be some bear fuel. After hours action will be worth watching. Good shorts are YHOO EBAY and IMCL. Caution longs!!
                      Right here is where you buy DXD. DXD runs inversely to the Dow 2:1!!!!!!
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                      • Originally posted by spikefader View Post
                        Peanuts, wise move dude. Potential for correction is very high now. I think we have a short-term top and correctives are about to be delivered rather quickly. I'm looking for 400-800 point Dow correction. I also suspect AAPL will disappoint tonight, and that'll be some bear fuel. After hours action will be worth watching. Good shorts are YHOO EBAY and IMCL. Caution longs!!
                        the core cpi is a much more important number than the ppi and its not out of line with what everyone expected. You guys need to learn your market mechanics better and not get frightened out of little dips. If we have a strong finish this week, look for a down week next week.

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                        • skiracer
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2004
                          • 6314

                          Originally posted by Tatnic View Post
                          the core cpi is a much more important number than the ppi and its not out of line with what everyone expected. You guys need to learn your market mechanics better and not get frightened out of little dips. If we have a strong finish this week, look for a down week next week.
                          Ya know what I left behind a long time ago is trying to determine which way the market is going to go. Especially trying to read anything into these reports etc. I can appreciate Spikes reasoning because he trades in the Dow mini futures I think but other than that I don't think in todays world it matters as long as you are on top of the current trend whichever way it is going to go and once that is determined play it as it shows you what it is doing.
                          Everyday is a different scenario and in my opinion should be approached from that perspective. Especially if you are trading equities over the short term. You don't necessarily go long when it is definitely trending down and you don't go short, except on specific setups even within a clear uptrend that show you the stock is going down, in a clear uptrend. Isn't that all you have to know if you're trading equities? Only you have to understand that and control your emotions and what you think rather than what you see it doing.
                          THE SKIRACER'S EDGE: MAKE THE EDGE IN YOUR FAVOR

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                          • Rob
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 3194

                            Originally posted by peanuts View Post
                            Really? The DeLorean and the Saturn are the only cars I know of which were made of non-rusting body parts...
                            I don't know if it's still true, but in earlier days they made the Corvette bodies out of fiberglass. No rust there.
                            —Rob

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                            • Originally posted by skiracer View Post
                              Ya know what I left behind a long time ago is trying to determine which way the market is going to go. Especially trying to read anything into these reports etc. I can appreciate Spikes reasoning because he trades in the Dow mini futures I think but other than that I don't think in todays world it matters as long as you are on top of the current trend whichever way it is going to go and once that is determined play it as it shows you what it is doing.
                              Everyday is a different scenario and in my opinion should be approached from that perspective. Especially if you are trading equities over the short term. You don't necessarily go long when it is definitely trending down and you don't go short, except on specific setups even within a clear uptrend that show you the stock is going down, in a clear uptrend. Isn't that all you have to know if you're trading equities? Only you have to understand that and control your emotions and what you think rather than what you see it doing.
                              One of the most successful hedge fund managers, I think his name was Simmons, has started a new fund that focuses on equities only and its holding period is going to be months and years, not hours and minutes. Hey, if we can scrape up 20 million between us all we can get in!

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                              • Originally posted by peanuts View Post
                                Lye, come on, dude. You rednecks drive me crazy sometimes. Do you need to see my credentials?

                                I wonder how many people are in China compared to the US... hmm, we just hit 300 Million today, China has 4 times that. And, I would venture to guess that less than half of those 1.2 Billion people have toasters. Your vision is sharp, but your scope is off.

                                You'll regret that you didn't build that small commercial steel building now instead of waiting until interest rates are even higher... along with the price of steel. Consolidation will keep pricing advantage with the producers.
                                Peanuts, in all due respect your post is a little condescending don't cha think? You may not be so cocky if those comfy little steel tariffs get eliminated...my guess is that the upcoming election will bring a new focus on those tariffs. And what makes you think interest rates are going up? What are your credentials to make that prediction?

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