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  • IIC
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2003
    • 14938

    #46
    Kinda sounds like Day Trading to me...Trim...Wait for further instructions...Hmm...IIC
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    • Lyehopper
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2004
      • 3678

      #47
      Originally posted by Runner
      The lead element or the first ones to engage the enemy will hit the ground and return fire. M60 machine gunners will advance forward to assist in laying suppressive fire.
      Squad leader will take assault team and flank. Communication between assault team and support teams must be done. Everyone needs to know what direction the assault will occur from. We always use Clock directions. 12:00 is always direction of movement. Assault team will sweep across the target in a violent manner and kill everything moving.
      Enemy is pined down by support and then the assault finishes them off. Each member has an assigned task.
      Each member must perform right?.... Hey Runner.... Do you deer hunt?.... specifically.... I mean Bow Hunt the "monsters"?

      If so.... I'd say you're good at it.... If not.... I bet you'd get great satisfaction and an unexplainable calming from the stalk....
      BEEF!... it's whats for dinner!

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      • skiracer
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2004
        • 6314

        #48
        Originally posted by Runner
        Ski, this stuff I just read brings back things. Almost like when I walk fast certain army songs pop in my head
        Sometimes I miss it and along with all the terrible shit I did I really did meet and still have some lifelong friendships and at times miss all of it including the bad stuff. But I''m an old dog now and wouldn't stand a chance next to these young guys. Christ I can't even remember what time the market opens anymore and give Lye a hard time over getting me in what I think is the wrong price. But like you said sometimes something will come up and remind me of it all and I get chills. Especially when I hear taps.
        THE SKIRACER'S EDGE: MAKE THE EDGE IN YOUR FAVOR

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        • billyjoe
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2003
          • 9014

          #49
          Doug,
          Did you hear about the 400 lb. guy from near San Diego that's walking across the U.S. to NYC ? He was interviewed by Katie Couric on the Today Show. See www.TheFatManWalking.com He's completed about 1300 miles. On his site he lists "The Art of War" as one of his inpirational books.

          billyjoe

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          • IIC
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2003
            • 14938

            #50
            Originally posted by billyjoe
            Doug,
            Did you hear about the 400 lb. guy from near San Diego that's walking across the U.S. to NYC ? He was interviewed by Katie Couric on the Today Show. See www.TheFatManWalking.com He's completed about 1300 miles. On his site he lists "The Art of War" as one of his inpirational books.

            billyjoe
            That's cool. The Art of War is required reading for many Asian CEO's...IIC
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            • IIC
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2003
              • 14938

              #51
              Today's Chapter

              Chapter VII. MANEUVERING


              1. Sun Tzu said: In war, the general receives his
              commands from the sovereign.

              2. Having collected an army and concentrated his forces,
              he must blend and harmonize the different elements thereof
              before pitching his camp.

              3. After that, comes tactical maneuvering,
              than which there is nothing more difficult.
              The difficulty of tactical maneuvering consists
              in turning the devious into the direct, and misfortune into gain.

              4. Thus, to take a long and circuitous route,
              after enticing the enemy out of the way, and though starting
              after him, to contrive to reach the goal before him,
              shows knowledge of the artifice of DEVIATION.

              5. Maneuvering with an army is advantageous;
              with an undisciplined multitude, most dangerous.

              6. If you set a fully equipped army in march in order
              to snatch an advantage, the chances are that you will be
              too late. On the other hand, to detach a flying column
              for the purpose involves the sacrifice of its baggage
              and stores.

              7. Thus, if you order your men to roll up their
              buff-coats, and make forced marches without halting day
              or night, covering double the usual distance at a stretch,
              doing a hundred LI in order to wrest an advantage,
              the leaders of all your three divisions will fall into
              the hands of the enemy.

              8. The stronger men will be in front, the jaded
              ones will fall behind, and on this plan only one-tenth
              of your army will reach its destination.

              9. If you march fifty LI in order to outmaneuver
              the enemy, you will lose the leader of your first division,
              and only half your force will reach the goal.

              10. If you march thirty LI with the same object,
              two-thirds of your army will arrive.

              11. We may take it then that an army without its
              baggage-train is lost; without provisions it is lost;
              without bases of supply it is lost.

              12. We cannot enter into alliances until we are
              acquainted with the designs of our neighbors.

              13. We are not fit to lead an army on the march
              unless we are familiar with the face of the country--its
              mountains and forests, its pitfalls and precipices,
              its marshes and swamps.

              14. We shall be unable to turn natural advantage
              to account unless we make use of local guides.

              15. In war, practice dissimulation, and you will succeed.

              16. Whether to concentrate or to divide your troops,
              must be decided by circumstances.

              17. Let your rapidity be that of the wind,
              your compactness that of the forest.

              18. In raiding and plundering be like fire,
              is immovability like a mountain.

              19. Let your plans be dark and impenetrable as night,
              and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.

              20. When you plunder a countryside, let the spoil be
              divided amongst your men; when you capture new territory,
              cut it up into allotments for the benefit of the soldiery.

              21. Ponder and deliberate before you make a move.

              22. He will conquer who has learnt the artifice
              of deviation. Such is the art of maneuvering.

              23. The Book of Army Management says: On the field
              of battle, the spoken word does not carry far enough:
              hence the institution of gongs and drums. Nor can ordinary
              objects be seen clearly enough: hence the institution
              of banners and flags.

              24. Gongs and drums, banners and flags, are means
              whereby the ears and eyes of the host may be focused
              on one particular point.

              25. The host thus forming a single united body,
              is it impossible either for the brave to advance alone,
              or for the cowardly to retreat alone. This is the art
              of handling large masses of men.

              26. In night-fighting, then, make much use of signal-fires
              and drums, and in fighting by day, of flags and banners,
              as a means of influencing the ears and eyes of your army.

              27. A whole army may be robbed of its spirit;
              a commander-in-chief may be robbed of his presence of mind.

              28. Now a soldier's spirit is keenest in the morning;
              by noonday it has begun to flag; and in the evening,
              his mind is bent only on returning to camp.

              29. A clever general, therefore, avoids an army when
              its spirit is keen, but attacks it when it is sluggish
              and inclined to return. This is the art of studying moods.

              30. Disciplined and calm, to await the appearance
              of disorder and hubbub amongst the enemy:--this is the art
              of retaining self-possession.

              31. To be near the goal while the enemy is still
              far from it, to wait at ease while the enemy is
              toiling and struggling, to be well-fed while the enemy
              is famished:--this is the art of husbanding one's strength.

              32. To refrain from intercepting an enemy whose
              banners are in perfect order, to refrain from attacking
              an army drawn up in calm and confident array:--this
              is the art of studying circumstances.

              33. It is a military axiom not to advance uphill
              against the enemy, nor to oppose him when he comes downhill.

              34. Do not pursue an enemy who simulates flight;
              do not attack soldiers whose temper is keen.

              35. Do not swallow bait offered by the enemy.
              Do not interfere with an army that is returning home.

              36. When you surround an army, leave an outlet free.
              Do not press a desperate foe too hard.

              37. Such is the art of warfare.
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              40. To muster his host and bring it into danger:--this
              may be termed the business of the general.

              41. The different measures suited to the nine
              varieties of ground; the expediency of aggressive or
              defensive tactics; and the fundamental laws of human nature:
              these are things that must most certainly be studied.

              42. When invading hostile territory, the general
              principle is, that penetrating deeply brings cohesion;
              penetrating but a short way means dispersion.

              43. When you leave your own country behind, and take
              your army across neighborhood territory, you find yourself
              on critical ground. When there are means of communication
              on all four sides, the ground is one of intersecting highways.

              44. When you penetrate deeply into a country, it is
              serious ground. When you penetrate but a little way,
              it is facile ground.

              45. When you have the enemy's strongholds on your rear,
              and narrow passes in front, it is hemmed-in ground.
              When there is no place of refuge at all, it is desperate ground.

              46. Therefore, on dispersive ground, I would inspire
              my men with unity of purpose. On facile ground, I would
              see that there is close connection between all parts
              of my army.

              47. On contentious ground, I would hurry up my rear.

              48. On open ground, I would keep a vigilant eye
              on my defenses. On ground of intersecting highways,
              I would consolidate my alliances.

              49. On serious ground, I would try to ensure
              a continuous stream of supplies. On difficult ground,
              I would keep pushing on along the road.

              50. On hemmed-in ground, I would block any way
              of retreat. On desperate ground, I would proclaim
              to my soldiers the hopelessness of saving their lives.

              51. For it is the soldier's disposition to offer
              an obstinate resistance when surrounded, to fight hard
              when he cannot help himself, and to obey promptly when he
              has fallen into danger.

              52. We cannot enter into alliance with neighboring
              princes until we are acquainted with their designs. We are
              not fit to lead an army on the march unless we are familiar
              with the face of the country--its mountains and forests,
              its pitfalls and precipices, its marshes and swamps.
              We shall be unable to turn natural advantages to account
              unless we make use of local guides.

              53. To be ignored of any one of the following four
              or five principles does not befit a warlike prince.

              54. When a warlike prince attacks a powerful state,
              his generalship shows itself in preventing the concentration
              of the enemy's forces. He overawes his opponents,
              and their allies are prevented from joining against him.

              55. Hence he does not strive to ally himself with all
              and sundry, nor does he foster the power of other states.
              He carries out his own secret designs, keeping his
              antagonists in awe. Thus he is able to capture their
              cities and overthrow their kingdoms.

              56. Bestow rewards without regard to rule,
              issue orders without regard to previous arrangements;
              and you will be able to handle a whole army as though
              you had to do with but a single man.

              57. Confront your soldiers with the deed itself;
              never let them know your design. When the outlook is bright,
              bring it before their eyes; but tell them nothing when
              the situation is gloomy.

              58. Place your army in deadly peril, and it will survive;
              plunge it into desperate straits, and it will come off
              in safety.

              59. For it is precisely when a force has fallen into
              harm's way that is capable of striking a blow for victory.

              60. Success in warfare is gained by carefully
              accommodating ourselves to the enemy's purpose.

              61. By persistently hanging on the enemy's flank, we shall
              succeed in the long run in killing the commander-in-chief.

              62. This is called ability to accomplish a thing
              by sheer cunning.

              63. On the day that you take up your command,
              block the frontier passes, destroy the official tallies,
              and stop the passage of all emissaries.

              64. Be stern in the council-chamber, so that you
              may control the situation.

              65. If the enemy leaves a door open, you must rush in.

              66. Forestall your opponent by seizing what he holds dear,
              and subtly contrive to time his arrival on the ground.

              67. Walk in the path defined by rule, and accommodate
              yourself to the enemy until you can fight a decisive battle.

              68. At first, then, exhibit the coyness of a maiden,
              until the enemy gives you an opening; afterwards emulate
              the rapidity of a running hare, and it will be too late
              for the enemy to oppose you.

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              • Lyehopper
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2004
                • 3678

                #52
                I like this IIC.... 18, 24, 65..... I could have written that.lol

                I must buy this book.
                BEEF!... it's whats for dinner!

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                • IIC
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 14938

                  #53
                  Originally posted by Lyehopper
                  I like this IIC.... 18, 24, 65..... I could have written that.lol

                  I must buy this book.
                  Yeah...but I'm kinda wondering what happened to # 38 and # 39???
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                  • IIC
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2003
                    • 14938

                    #54
                    Today's Chapter

                    Chapter VIII. VARIATION IN TACTICS


                    1. Sun Tzu said: In war, the general receives
                    his commands from the sovereign, collects his army
                    and concentrates his forces

                    2. When in difficult country, do not encamp. In country
                    where high roads intersect, join hands with your allies.
                    Do not linger in dangerously isolated positions.
                    In hemmed-in situations, you must resort to stratagem.
                    In desperate position, you must fight.

                    3. There are roads which must not be followed,
                    armies which must be not attacked, towns which must
                    be besieged, positions which must not be contested,
                    commands of the sovereign which must not be obeyed.

                    4. The general who thoroughly understands the advantages
                    that accompany variation of tactics knows how to handle
                    his troops.

                    5. The general who does not understand these, may be well
                    acquainted with the configuration of the country, yet he
                    will not be able to turn his knowledge to practical account.

                    6. So, the student of war who is unversed in the art
                    of war of varying his plans, even though he be acquainted
                    with the Five Advantages, will fail to make the best use
                    of his men.

                    7. Hence in the wise leader's plans, considerations of
                    advantage and of disadvantage will be blended together.

                    8. If our expectation of advantage be tempered in
                    this way, we may succeed in accomplishing the essential
                    part of our schemes.

                    9. If, on the other hand, in the midst of difficulties
                    we are always ready to seize an advantage, we may extricate
                    ourselves from misfortune.

                    10. Reduce the hostile chiefs by inflicting damage
                    on them; and make trouble for them, and keep them
                    constantly engaged; hold out specious allurements,
                    and make them rush to any given point.

                    11. The art of war teaches us to rely not on the
                    likelihood of the enemy's not coming, but on our own readiness
                    to receive him; not on the chance of his not attacking,
                    but rather on the fact that we have made our position unassailable.

                    12. There are five dangerous faults which may affect
                    a general:
                    (1) Recklessness, which leads to destruction;
                    (2) cowardice, which leads to capture;
                    (3) a hasty temper, which can be provoked by insults;
                    (4) a delicacy of honor which is sensitive to shame;
                    (5) over-solicitude for his men, which exposes him
                    to worry and trouble.

                    13. These are the five besetting sins of a general,
                    ruinous to the conduct of war.

                    14. When an army is overthrown and its leader slain,
                    the cause will surely be found among these five
                    dangerous faults. Let them be a subject of meditation
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                    • IIC
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 14938

                      #55
                      Today's Chapter

                      Chapter IX. THE ARMY ON THE MARCH


                      1. Sun Tzu said: We come now to the question of
                      encamping the army, and observing signs of the enemy.
                      Pass quickly over mountains, and keep in the neighborhood
                      of valleys.

                      2. Camp in high places, facing the sun. Do not climb
                      heights in order to fight. So much for mountain warfare.

                      3. After crossing a river, you should get far away
                      from it.

                      4. When an invading force crosses a river in its
                      onward march, do not advance to meet it in mid-stream.
                      It will be best to let half the army get across,
                      and then deliver your attack.

                      5. If you are anxious to fight, you should not go
                      to meet the invader near a river which he has to cross.

                      6. Moor your craft higher up than the enemy, and facing
                      the sun. Do not move up-stream to meet the enemy.
                      So much for river warfare.

                      7. In crossing salt-marshes, your sole concern
                      should be to get over them quickly, without any delay.

                      8. If forced to fight in a salt-marsh, you should
                      have water and grass near you, and get your back
                      to a clump of trees. So much for operations in salt-marches.

                      9. In dry, level country, take up an easily accessible
                      position with rising ground to your right and on your rear,
                      so that the danger may be in front, and safety lie behind.
                      So much for campaigning in flat country.

                      10. These are the four useful branches of military
                      knowledge which enabled the Yellow Emperor to vanquish
                      four several sovereigns.

                      11. All armies prefer high ground to low and sunny
                      places to dark.

                      12. If you are careful of your men, and camp on hard
                      ground, the army will be free from disease of every kind,
                      and this will spell victory.

                      13. When you come to a hill or a bank, occupy the
                      sunny side, with the slope on your right rear.
                      Thus you will at once act for the benefit of your soldiers
                      and utilize the natural advantages of the ground.

                      14. When, in consequence of heavy rains up-country,
                      a river which you wish to ford is swollen and flecked
                      with foam, you must wait until it subsides.

                      15. Country in which there are precipitous cliffs
                      with torrents running between, deep natural hollows,
                      confined places, tangled thickets, quagmires and crevasses,
                      should be left with all possible speed and not approached.

                      16. While we keep away from such places, we should
                      get the enemy to approach them; while we face them,
                      we should let the enemy have them on his rear.

                      17. If in the neighborhood of your camp there should
                      be any hilly country, ponds surrounded by aquatic grass,
                      hollow basins filled with reeds, or woods with thick
                      undergrowth, they must be carefully routed out and searched;
                      for these are places where men in ambush or insidious
                      spies are likely to be lurking.

                      18. When the enemy is close at hand and remains quiet,
                      he is relying on the natural strength of his position.

                      19. When he keeps aloof and tries to provoke a battle,
                      he is anxious for the other side to advance.

                      20. If his place of encampment is easy of access,
                      he is tendering a bait.

                      21. Movement amongst the trees of a forest shows that the
                      enemy is advancing. The appearance of a number of screens
                      in the midst of thick grass means that the enemy wants to make us suspicious.

                      22. The rising of birds in their flight is the sign
                      of an ambuscade. Startled beasts indicate that a sudden
                      attack is coming.

                      23. When there is dust rising in a high column,
                      it is the sign of chariots advancing; when the dust is low,
                      but spread over a wide area, it betokens the approach
                      of infantry. When it branches out in different directions,
                      it shows that parties have been sent to collect firewood.
                      A few clouds of dust moving to and fro signify that the army
                      is encamping.

                      24. Humble words and increased preparations are signs
                      that the enemy is about to advance. Violent language
                      and driving forward as if to the attack are signs that he
                      will retreat.

                      25. When the light chariots come out first and take
                      up a position on the wings, it is a sign that the enemy
                      is forming for battle.

                      26. Peace proposals unaccompanied by a sworn covenant
                      indicate a plot.

                      27. When there is much running about and the soldiers
                      fall into rank, it means that the critical moment has come.

                      28. When some are seen advancing and some retreating,
                      it is a lure.

                      29. When the soldiers stand leaning on their spears,
                      they are faint from want of food.

                      30. If those who are sent to draw water begin
                      by drinking themselves, the army is suffering from thirst.

                      31. If the enemy sees an advantage to be gained and
                      makes no effort to secure it, the soldiers are exhausted.

                      32. If birds gather on any spot, it is unoccupied.
                      Clamor by night betokens nervousness.

                      33. If there is disturbance in the camp, the general's
                      authority is weak. If the banners and flags are shifted
                      about, sedition is afoot. If the officers are angry,
                      it means that the men are weary.

                      34. When an army feeds its horses with grain and kills
                      its cattle for food, and when the men do not hang their
                      cooking-pots over the camp-fires, showing that they
                      will not return to their tents, you may know that they
                      are determined to fight to the death.

                      35. The sight of men whispering together in small
                      knots or speaking in subdued tones points to disaffection
                      amongst the rank and file.

                      36. Too frequent rewards signify that the enemy is
                      at the end of his resources; too many punishments betray
                      a condition of dire distress.

                      37. To begin by bluster, but afterwards to take fright
                      at the enemy's numbers, shows a supreme lack of intelligence.

                      38. When envoys are sent with compliments in their mouths,
                      it is a sign that the enemy wishes for a truce.

                      39. If the enemy's troops march up angrily and remain
                      facing ours for a long time without either joining
                      battle or taking themselves off again, the situation
                      is one that demands great vigilance and circumspection.

                      40. If our troops are no more in number than the enemy,
                      that is amply sufficient; it only means that no direct attack
                      can be made. What we can do is simply to concentrate all
                      our available strength, keep a close watch on the enemy,
                      and obtain reinforcements.

                      41. He who exercises no forethought but makes light
                      of his opponents is sure to be captured by them.

                      42. If soldiers are punished before they have grown
                      attached to you, they will not prove submissive; and,
                      unless submissive, then will be practically useless.
                      If, when the soldiers have become attached to you,
                      punishments are not enforced, they will still be unless.

                      43. Therefore soldiers must be treated in the first
                      instance with humanity, but kept under control by means
                      of iron discipline. This is a certain road to victory.

                      44. If in training soldiers commands are habitually
                      enforced, the army will be well-disciplined; if not,
                      its discipline will be bad.

                      45. If a general shows confidence in his men but always
                      insists on his orders being obeyed, the gain will be mutual.
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                      • IIC
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2003
                        • 14938

                        #56
                        Today's Chapter

                        Chapter X. TERRAIN


                        1. Sun Tzu said: We may distinguish six kinds of terrain,
                        to wit: (1) Accessible ground; (2) entangling ground;
                        (3) temporizing ground; (4) narrow passes; (5) precipitous
                        heights; (6) positions at a great distance from the enemy.

                        2. Ground which can be freely traversed by both sides
                        is called accessible.

                        3. With regard to ground of this nature, be before
                        the enemy in occupying the raised and sunny spots,
                        and carefully guard your line of supplies. Then you
                        will be able to fight with advantage.

                        4. Ground which can be abandoned but is hard
                        to re-occupy is called entangling.

                        5. From a position of this sort, if the enemy
                        is unprepared, you may sally forth and defeat him.
                        But if the enemy is prepared for your coming, and you
                        fail to defeat him, then, return being impossible,
                        disaster will ensue.

                        6. When the position is such that neither side will gain
                        by making the first move, it is called temporizing ground.

                        7. In a position of this sort, even though the enemy
                        should offer us an attractive bait, it will be advisable
                        not to stir forth, but rather to retreat, thus enticing
                        the enemy in his turn; then, when part of his army has
                        come out, we may deliver our attack with advantage.

                        8. With regard to narrow passes, if you can occupy
                        them first, let them be strongly garrisoned and await
                        the advent of the enemy.

                        9. Should the army forestall you in occupying a pass,
                        do not go after him if the pass is fully garrisoned,
                        but only if it is weakly garrisoned.

                        10. With regard to precipitous heights, if you are
                        beforehand with your adversary, you should occupy the
                        raised and sunny spots, and there wait for him to come up.

                        11. If the enemy has occupied them before you,
                        do not follow him, but retreat and try to entice him away.

                        12. If you are situated at a great distance from
                        the enemy, and the strength of the two armies is equal,
                        it is not easy to provoke a battle, and fighting will be
                        to your disadvantage.

                        13. These six are the principles connected with Earth.
                        The general who has attained a responsible post must be
                        careful to study them.

                        14. Now an army is exposed to six several calamities,
                        not arising from natural causes, but from faults
                        for which the general is responsible. These are:
                        (1) Flight; (2) insubordination; (3) collapse; (4) ruin;
                        (5) disorganization; (6) rout.

                        15. Other conditions being equal, if one force is
                        hurled against another ten times its size, the result
                        will be the flight of the former.

                        16. When the common soldiers are too strong and
                        their officers too weak, the result is insubordination.
                        When the officers are too strong and the common soldiers
                        too weak, the result is collapse.

                        17. When the higher officers are angry and insubordinate,
                        and on meeting the enemy give battle on their own account
                        from a feeling of resentment, before the commander-in-chief
                        can tell whether or no he is in a position to fight,
                        the result is ruin.

                        18. When the general is weak and without authority;
                        when his orders are not clear and distinct; when there
                        are no fixes duties assigned to officers and men,
                        and the ranks are formed in a slovenly haphazard manner,
                        the result is utter disorganization.

                        19. When a general, unable to estimate the enemy's
                        strength, allows an inferior force to engage a larger one,
                        or hurls a weak detachment against a powerful one,
                        and neglects to place picked soldiers in the front rank,
                        the result must be rout.

                        20. These are six ways of courting defeat, which must
                        be carefully noted by the general who has attained
                        a responsible post.

                        21. The natural formation of the country is the soldier's
                        best ally; but a power of estimating the adversary,
                        of controlling the forces of victory, and of shrewdly
                        calculating difficulties, dangers and distances,
                        constitutes the test of a great general.

                        22. He who knows these things, and in fighting puts
                        his knowledge into practice, will win his battles.
                        He who knows them not, nor practices them, will surely
                        be defeated.

                        23. If fighting is sure to result in victory,
                        then you must fight, even though the ruler forbid it;
                        if fighting will not result in victory, then you must not
                        fight even at the ruler's bidding.

                        24. The general who advances without coveting fame
                        and retreats without fearing disgrace, whose only
                        thought is to protect his country and do good service
                        for his sovereign, is the jewel of the kingdom.

                        25. Regard your soldiers as your children, and they
                        will follow you into the deepest valleys; look upon them
                        as your own beloved sons, and they will stand by you
                        even unto death.

                        26. If, however, you are indulgent, but unable to make
                        your authority felt; kind-hearted, but unable to enforce
                        your commands; and incapable, moreover, of quelling disorder:
                        then your soldiers must be likened to spoilt children;
                        they are useless for any practical purpose.

                        27. If we know that our own men are in a condition
                        to attack, but are unaware that the enemy is not open
                        to attack, we have gone only halfway towards victory.

                        28. If we know that the enemy is open to attack,
                        but are unaware that our own men are not in a condition
                        to attack, we have gone only halfway towards victory.

                        29. If we know that the enemy is open to attack,
                        and also know that our men are in a condition to attack,
                        but are unaware that the nature of the ground makes
                        fighting impracticable, we have still gone only halfway
                        towards victory.

                        30. Hence the experienced soldier, once in motion,
                        is never bewildered; once he has broken camp, he is never
                        at a loss.

                        31. Hence the saying: If you know the enemy and
                        know yourself, your victory will not stand in doubt;
                        if you know Heaven and know Earth, you may make your
                        victory complete.
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                        • IIC
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                          • Nov 2003
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                          Today's Chapter

                          Chapter XI. THE NINE SITUATIONS


                          1. Sun Tzu said: The art of war recognizes nine varieties of ground:
                          (1) Dispersive ground; (2) facile ground; (3) contentious ground;
                          (4) open ground; (5) ground of intersecting highways;
                          (6) serious ground; (7) difficult ground; ( hemmed-in ground;
                          (9) desperate ground.

                          2. When a chieftain is fighting in his own territory,
                          it is dispersive ground.

                          3. When he has penetrated into hostile territory,
                          but to no great distance, it is facile ground.

                          4. Ground the possession of which imports great
                          advantage to either side, is contentious ground.

                          5. Ground on which each side has liberty of movement
                          is open ground.

                          6. Ground which forms the key to three contiguous states,
                          so that he who occupies it first has most of the Empire
                          at his command, is a ground of intersecting highways.

                          7. When an army has penetrated into the heart of a
                          hostile country, leaving a number of fortified cities
                          in its rear, it is serious ground.

                          8. Mountain forests, rugged steeps, marshes and fens--all
                          country that is hard to traverse: this is difficult ground.

                          9. Ground which is reached through narrow gorges,
                          and from which we can only retire by tortuous paths,
                          so that a small number of the enemy would suffice to crush
                          a large body of our men: this is hemmed in ground.

                          10. Ground on which we can only be saved from
                          destruction by fighting without delay, is desperate ground.

                          11. On dispersive ground, therefore, fight not.
                          On facile ground, halt not. On contentious ground,
                          attack not.

                          12. On open ground, do not try to block the enemy's way.
                          On the ground of intersecting highways, join hands
                          with your allies.

                          13. On serious ground, gather in plunder.
                          In difficult ground, keep steadily on the march.

                          14. On hemmed-in ground, resort to stratagem.
                          On desperate ground, fight.

                          15. Those who were called skillful leaders of old knew
                          how to drive a wedge between the enemy's front and rear;
                          to prevent co-operation between his large and small divisions;
                          to hinder the good troops from rescuing the bad,
                          the officers from rallying their men.

                          16. When the enemy's men were united, they managed
                          to keep them in disorder.

                          17. When it was to their advantage, they made
                          a forward move; when otherwise, they stopped still.

                          18. If asked how to cope with a great host of the enemy
                          in orderly array and on the point of marching to the attack,
                          I should say: "Begin by seizing something which your
                          opponent holds dear; then he will be amenable to your will."

                          19. Rapidity is the essence of war: take advantage of
                          the enemy's unreadiness, make your way by unexpected routes,
                          and attack unguarded spots.

                          20. The following are the principles to be observed
                          by an invading force: The further you penetrate into
                          a country, the greater will be the solidarity of your troops,
                          and thus the defenders will not prevail against you.

                          21. Make forays in fertile country in order to supply
                          your army with food.

                          22. Carefully study the well-being of your men,
                          and do not overtax them. Concentrate your energy and hoard
                          your strength. Keep your army continually on the move,
                          and devise unfathomable plans.

                          23. Throw your soldiers into positions whence there
                          is no escape, and they will prefer death to flight.
                          If they will face death, there is nothing they may
                          not achieve. Officers and men alike will put forth
                          their uttermost strength.

                          24. Soldiers when in desperate straits lose
                          the sense of fear. If there is no place of refuge,
                          they will stand firm. If they are in hostile country,
                          they will show a stubborn front. If there is no help
                          for it, they will fight hard.

                          25. Thus, without waiting to be marshaled, the soldiers
                          will be constantly on the qui vive; without waiting to
                          be asked, they will do your will; without restrictions,
                          they will be faithful; without giving orders, they can
                          be trusted.

                          26. Prohibit the taking of omens, and do away with
                          superstitious doubts. Then, until death itself comes,
                          no calamity need be feared.

                          27. If our soldiers are not overburdened with money,
                          it is not because they have a distaste for riches;
                          if their lives are not unduly long, it is not because they
                          are disinclined to longevity.

                          28. On the day they are ordered out to battle,
                          your soldiers may weep, those sitting up bedewing
                          their garments, and those lying down letting the tears run
                          down their cheeks. But let them once be brought to bay,
                          and they will display the courage of a Chu or a Kuei.

                          29. The skillful tactician may be likened to the
                          shuai-jan. Now the shuai-jan is a snake that is found
                          in the ChUng mountains. Strike at its head, and you
                          will be attacked by its tail; strike at its tail, and you
                          will be attacked by its head; strike at its middle,
                          and you will be attacked by head and tail both.

                          30. Asked if an army can be made to imitate the shuai-jan,
                          I should answer, Yes. For the men of Wu and the men
                          of Yueh are enemies; yet if they are crossing a river
                          in the same boat and are caught by a storm, they will come
                          to each other's assistance just as the left hand helps the right.

                          31. Hence it is not enough to put one's trust
                          in the tethering of horses, and the burying of chariot
                          wheels in the ground

                          32. The principle on which to manage an army is to set
                          up one standard of courage which all must reach.

                          33. How to make the best of both strong and weak--that
                          is a question involving the proper use of ground.

                          34. Thus the skillful general conducts his army just
                          as though he were leading a single man, willy-nilly, by
                          the hand.

                          35. It is the business of a general to be quiet and thus
                          ensure secrecy; upright and just, and thus maintain order.

                          36. He must be able to mystify his officers and men
                          by false reports and appearances, and thus keep them
                          in total ignorance.

                          37. By altering his arrangements and changing
                          his plans, he keeps the enemy without definite knowledge.
                          By shifting his camp and taking circuitous routes,
                          he prevents the enemy from anticipating his purpose.

                          38. At the critical moment, the leader of an army
                          acts like one who has climbed up a height and then kicks
                          away the ladder behind him. He carries his men deep
                          into hostile territory before he shows his hand.

                          39. He burns his boats and breaks his cooking-pots;
                          like a shepherd driving a flock of sheep, he drives
                          his men this way and that, and nothing knows whither he
                          is going.

                          40. To muster his host and bring it into danger:--this
                          may be termed the business of the general.

                          41. The different measures suited to the nine
                          varieties of ground; the expediency of aggressive or
                          defensive tactics; and the fundamental laws of human nature:
                          these are things that must most certainly be studied.

                          42. When invading hostile territory, the general
                          principle is, that penetrating deeply brings cohesion;
                          penetrating but a short way means dispersion.

                          43. When you leave your own country behind, and take
                          your army across neighborhood territory, you find yourself
                          on critical ground. When there are means of communication
                          on all four sides, the ground is one of intersecting highways.

                          44. When you penetrate deeply into a country, it is
                          serious ground. When you penetrate but a little way,
                          it is facile ground.

                          45. When you have the enemy's strongholds on your rear,
                          and narrow passes in front, it is hemmed-in ground.
                          When there is no place of refuge at all, it is desperate ground.

                          46. Therefore, on dispersive ground, I would inspire
                          my men with unity of purpose. On facile ground, I would
                          see that there is close connection between all parts
                          of my army.

                          47. On contentious ground, I would hurry up my rear.

                          48. On open ground, I would keep a vigilant eye
                          on my defenses. On ground of intersecting highways,
                          I would consolidate my alliances.

                          49. On serious ground, I would try to ensure
                          a continuous stream of supplies. On difficult ground,
                          I would keep pushing on along the road.

                          50. On hemmed-in ground, I would block any way
                          of retreat. On desperate ground, I would proclaim
                          to my soldiers the hopelessness of saving their lives.

                          51. For it is the soldier's disposition to offer
                          an obstinate resistance when surrounded, to fight hard
                          when he cannot help himself, and to obey promptly when he
                          has fallen into danger.

                          52. We cannot enter into alliance with neighboring
                          princes until we are acquainted with their designs. We are
                          not fit to lead an army on the march unless we are familiar
                          with the face of the country--its mountains and forests,
                          its pitfalls and precipices, its marshes and swamps.
                          We shall be unable to turn natural advantages to account
                          unless we make use of local guides.

                          53. To be ignored of any one of the following four
                          or five principles does not befit a warlike prince.

                          54. When a warlike prince attacks a powerful state,
                          his generalship shows itself in preventing the concentration
                          of the enemy's forces. He overawes his opponents,
                          and their allies are prevented from joining against him.

                          55. Hence he does not strive to ally himself with all
                          and sundry, nor does he foster the power of other states.
                          He carries out his own secret designs, keeping his
                          antagonists in awe. Thus he is able to capture their
                          cities and overthrow their kingdoms.

                          56. Bestow rewards without regard to rule,
                          issue orders without regard to previous arrangements;
                          and you will be able to handle a whole army as though
                          you had to do with but a single man.

                          57. Confront your soldiers with the deed itself;
                          never let them know your design. When the outlook is bright,
                          bring it before their eyes; but tell them nothing when
                          the situation is gloomy.

                          58. Place your army in deadly peril, and it will survive;
                          plunge it into desperate straits, and it will come off
                          in safety.

                          59. For it is precisely when a force has fallen into
                          harm's way that is capable of striking a blow for victory.

                          60. Success in warfare is gained by carefully
                          accommodating ourselves to the enemy's purpose.

                          61. By persistently hanging on the enemy's flank, we shall
                          succeed in the long run in killing the commander-in-chief.

                          62. This is called ability to accomplish a thing
                          by sheer cunning.

                          63. On the day that you take up your command,
                          block the frontier passes, destroy the official tallies,
                          and stop the passage of all emissaries.

                          64. Be stern in the council-chamber, so that you
                          may control the situation.

                          65. If the enemy leaves a door open, you must rush in.

                          66. Forestall your opponent by seizing what he holds dear,
                          and subtly contrive to time his arrival on the ground.

                          67. Walk in the path defined by rule, and accommodate
                          yourself to the enemy until you can fight a decisive battle.

                          68. At first, then, exhibit the coyness of a maiden,
                          until the enemy gives you an opening; afterwards emulate
                          the rapidity of a running hare, and it will be too late
                          for the enemy to oppose you.
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                          • IIC
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                            • Nov 2003
                            • 14938

                            #58
                            Today's Chapter

                            Chapter XII. THE ATTACK BY FIRE


                            1. Sun Tzu said: There are five ways of attacking
                            with fire. The first is to burn soldiers in their camp;
                            the second is to burn stores; the third is to burn
                            baggage trains; the fourth is to burn arsenals and magazines;
                            the fifth is to hurl dropping fire amongst the enemy.

                            2. In order to carry out an attack, we must have
                            means available. The material for raising fire should
                            always be kept in readiness.

                            3. There is a proper season for making attacks with fire,
                            and special days for starting a conflagration.

                            4. The proper season is when the weather is very dry;
                            the special days are those when the moon is in the
                            constellations of the Sieve, the Wall, the Wing
                            or the Cross-bar; for these four are all days of rising wind.

                            5. In attacking with fire, one should be prepared
                            to meet five possible developments:

                            6. (1) When fire breaks out inside to enemy's camp,
                            respond at once with an attack from without.

                            7. (2) If there is an outbreak of fire, but the enemy's
                            soldiers remain quiet, bide your time and do not attack.

                            8. (3) When the force of the flames has reached its height,
                            follow it up with an attack, if that is practicable;
                            if not, stay where you are.

                            9. (4) If it is possible to make an assault with fire
                            from without, do not wait for it to break out within,
                            but deliver your attack at a favorable moment.

                            10. (5) When you start a fire, be to windward of it.
                            Do not attack from the leeward.

                            11. A wind that rises in the daytime lasts long,
                            but a night breeze soon falls.

                            12. In every army, the five developments connected with
                            fire must be known, the movements of the stars calculated,
                            and a watch kept for the proper days.

                            13. Hence those who use fire as an aid to the attack show intelligence;
                            those who use water as an aid to the attack gain an accession of strength.

                            14. By means of water, an enemy may be intercepted,
                            but not robbed of all his belongings.

                            15. Unhappy is the fate of one who tries to win his
                            battles and succeed in his attacks without cultivating
                            the spirit of enterprise; for the result is waste of time
                            and general stagnation.

                            16. Hence the saying: The enlightened ruler lays his
                            plans well ahead; the good general cultivates his resources.

                            17. Move not unless you see an advantage; use not
                            your troops unless there is something to be gained;
                            fight not unless the position is critical.

                            18. No ruler should put troops into the field merely
                            to gratify his own spleen; no general should fight
                            a battle simply out of pique.

                            19. If it is to your advantage, make a forward move;
                            if not, stay where you are.

                            20. Anger may in time change to gladness; vexation may
                            be succeeded by content.

                            21. But a kingdom that has once been destroyed can
                            never come again into being; nor can the dead ever
                            be brought back to life.

                            22. Hence the enlightened ruler is heedful,
                            and the good general full of caution. This is the way
                            to keep a country at peace and an army int
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                            • IIC
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                              • Nov 2003
                              • 14938

                              #59
                              Final Chapter

                              Well...This is it...The Final Chapter...Been a tough battle...But I hope some got some beneficial tips...I know I did. If you would like the whole thing in one place...This is where I got it:




                              Chapter XIII. THE USE OF SPIES


                              1. Sun Tzu said: Raising a host of a hundred thousand
                              men and marching them great distances entails heavy loss
                              on the people and a drain on the resources of the State.
                              The daily expenditure will amount to a thousand ounces
                              of silver. There will be commotion at home and abroad,
                              and men will drop down exhausted on the highways.
                              As many as seven hundred thousand families will be impeded
                              in their labor.

                              2. Hostile armies may face each other for years,
                              striving for the victory which is decided in a single day.
                              This being so, to remain in ignorance of the enemy's
                              condition simply because one grudges the outlay of a hundred
                              ounces of silver in honors and emoluments, is the height
                              of inhumanity.

                              3. One who acts thus is no leader of men, no present
                              help to his sovereign, no master of victory.

                              4. Thus, what enables the wise sovereign and the good
                              general to strike and conquer, and achieve things beyond
                              the reach of ordinary men, is foreknowledge.

                              5. Now this foreknowledge cannot be elicited from spirits;
                              it cannot be obtained inductively from experience,
                              nor by any deductive calculation.

                              6. Knowledge of the enemy's dispositions can only
                              be obtained from other men.

                              7. Hence the use of spies, of whom there are five classes:
                              (1) Local spies; (2) inward spies; (3) converted spies;
                              (4) doomed spies; (5) surviving spies.

                              8. When these five kinds of spy are all at work,
                              none can discover the secret system. This is called "divine
                              manipulation of the threads." It is the sovereign's
                              most precious faculty.

                              9. Having local spies means employing the services
                              of the inhabitants of a district.

                              10. Having inward spies, making use of officials
                              of the enemy.

                              11. Having converted spies, getting hold of the enemy's
                              spies and using them for our own purposes.

                              12. Having doomed spies, doing certain things openly
                              for purposes of deception, and allowing our spies to know
                              of them and report them to the enemy.

                              13. Surviving spies, finally, are those who bring
                              back news from the enemy's camp.

                              14. Hence it is that which none in the whole army are
                              more intimate relations to be maintained than with spies.
                              None should be more liberally rewarded. In no other
                              business should greater secrecy be preserved.

                              15. Spies cannot be usefully employed without a certain
                              intuitive sagacity.

                              16. They cannot be properly managed without benevolence
                              and straightforwardness.

                              17. Without subtle ingenuity of mind, one cannot make
                              certain of the truth of their reports.

                              18. Be subtle! be subtle! and use your spies for every
                              kind of business.

                              19. If a secret piece of news is divulged by a spy
                              before the time is ripe, he must be put to death together
                              with the man to whom the secret was told.

                              20. Whether the object be to crush an army, to storm
                              a city, or to assassinate an individual, it is always
                              necessary to begin by finding out the names of the attendants,
                              the aides-de-camp, and door-keepers and sentries of the general
                              in command. Our spies must be commissioned to ascertain these.

                              21. The enemy's spies who have come to spy on us
                              must be sought out, tempted with bribes, led away and
                              comfortably housed. Thus they will become converted
                              spies and available for our service.

                              22. It is through the information brought by the
                              converted spy that we are able to acquire and employ
                              local and inward spies.

                              23. It is owing to his information, again, that we can
                              cause the doomed spy to carry false tidings to the enemy.

                              24. Lastly, it is by his information that the surviving
                              spy can be used on appointed occasions.

                              25. The end and aim of spying in all its five varieties
                              is knowledge of the enemy; and this knowledge can only
                              be derived, in the first instance, from the converted spy.
                              Hence it is essential that the converted spy be treated
                              with the utmost liberality.

                              26. Of old, the rise of the Yin dynasty was due to I
                              Chih who had served under the Hsia. Likewise, the rise
                              of the Chou dynasty was due to Lu Ya who had served
                              under the Yin.

                              27. Hence it is only the enlightened ruler and the
                              wise general who will use the highest intelligence of
                              the army for purposes of spying and thereby they achieve
                              great results. Spies are a most important element in water,
                              because on them depends an army's ability to move.
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                              • spikefader
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                                • Apr 2004
                                • 7175

                                #60
                                I have so much to catch up on with this thread. But I just read something that I really see truth in and can't help but want to repeat it.

                                It's Chapter VIII Variations in Tactics; Points 11 to 14. Summarized by me thus:

                                "Five ruinous sins:
                                1. Recklessness
                                2. Cowardice
                                3. Anger
                                4. Pride
                                5. Worry
                                When an army is overthrown and its leader slain, the cause will surely be found among these five dangerous faults. Let them be a subject of meditation".

                                I really do have to invest more time in this book dude.

                                Thanks fer takin' the initiative for the thread, IIC. I'm sure I'll post more when I make the time to read it all!

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