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  • Lyehopper
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2004
    • 3678

    Originally posted by skiracer
    The guessing weights an ages comment was from my early days working on the boardwalk in Seaside Heights, NJ. There were several people, usually gypsies, who ran small concessions that would guess your weight an age within a few pounds or a couple of years. There was some gimmick they had to do it. The saying stuck with me whenever anyone would ask me about how something would play out into the future.
    I can guess weight very close.... Well, in cattle that is.... I have looked at thousands of calves move through the selling rink and "eyeballing" their weight is something I am just pretty darned good at.

    I know some "pen-hookers" that are SO good at guessing the weight of cattle that they'll buy a load of cattle (from an unsuspecting small farmer) when they truck them to the market and before the cattle is unloaded they'll buy them for ca$h money. The farmer thinks it's a good deal because there's no paperwork on the transaction thus no taxable sale took place... Then the penhooker* will unload the cattle, run them through the scales and sell them in his name and pocket the difference. I saw a fella buy a mature bull from a farmer one day for $900 cash and he sold the bull four hours later for over $1,300.... These guys make a living speculating on cattle this way. I call them "Cattle Hustlers" .... Old style penhookers are a dying breed though, because new cattle tracking laws (soon to be inacted) will make it necessary that every animal be traceable to a specific farmers/farm ID number.

    *I know you folks have probably never heard of a "penhooker" so here's a pretty good cattle forum where it came up as a topic once....

    BEEF!... it's whats for dinner!

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    • IIC
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2003
      • 14938

      Originally posted by Lyehopper
      I can guess weight very close.... Well, in cattle that is.... I have looked at thousands of calves move through the selling rink and "eyeballing" their weight is something I am just pretty darned good at.

      I know some "pen-hookers" that are SO good at guessing the weight of cattle that they'll buy a load of cattle (from an unsuspecting small farmer) when they truck them to the market and before the cattle is unloaded they'll buy them for ca$h money. The farmer thinks it's a good deal because there's no paperwork on the transaction thus no taxable sale took place... Then the penhooker* will unload the cattle, run them through the scales and sell them in his name and pocket the difference. I saw a fella buy a mature bull from a farmer one day for $900 cash and he sold the bull four hours later for over $1,300.... These guys make a living speculating on cattle this way. I call them "Cattle Hustlers" .... Old style penhookers are a dying breed though, because new cattle tracking laws (soon to be inacted) will make it necessary that every animal be traceable to a specific farmers/farm ID number.

      *I know you folks have probably never heard of a "penhooker" so here's a pretty good cattle forum where it came up as a topic once....

      http://www.cattletoday.com/forum/abo...-0-asc-15.html
      Geez...I never imagined there was a cattle forum...What's your screen name over there?...I couldn't figure out which one was you.

      Actually, I guess I shouldn't be surprised. I have this one site which I don't list in my signature...It is an ezine directory...over 7,600 listings covering virtually any interest.

      I never heard of pen hookers...But I think most people would be surprised at how many ways there are to make money for adept entrepreneurs.

      One thing that has interested me for years is "Parasite" businesses...Although any business could be considered one...I'm talking more on a micro-scale. For example, many of my sites only feed off of other sites...If they were not there I would not be there...Nothing illegal or unethical...it is just a matter of being in the right place at the right time. That's why I'm throwing up so many sites...I rather doubt that any will become big time...But think about it...If I can throw up 100 auto-pilot type sites that each make me only $10 a day... that's $365,000 yr...Heck, I can live with that...How many people are interested in only making $10 a day on their site? My guess is not many. Even 1/2 that would be more than I make at my current job. And if I can do 100...then I can hire someone to help me put up 100+ more.

      I ran across this one guy at an affiliate forum who claims to have over 300 sites...I don't know if it is true, but I can see it...Doug(IIC)
      "Trade What Is Happening...Not What You Think Is Gonna Happen"

      Find Tomorrow's Winners At SharpTraders.com

      Follow Me On Twitter

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      • Originally posted by IIC
        Gs.

        One thing that has interested me for years is "Parasite" businesses...Although any business could be considered one...I'm talking more on a micro-scale. For example, many of my sites only feed off of other sites...If they were not there I would not be there...Nothing illegal or unethical...it is just a matter of being in the right place at the right time. That's why I'm throwing up so many sites...I rather doubt that any will become big time...But think about it...If I can throw up 100 auto-pilot type sites that each make me only $10 a day... that's $365,000 yr...Heck, I can live with that...How many people are interested in only making $10 a day on their site? My guess is not many. Even 1/2 that would be more than I make at my current job. And if I can do 100...then I can hire someone to help me put up 100+ more.

        Those “parasites” are what W. Easterly would call “searchers.”

        “Searchers treat problem-solving as an incremental discovery process, relying on competition and feedback to figure out what works.”

        From: http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/19/bo...rssnyt&emc=rss

        Essentially people that exploit asymmetric information for a profit, e.g., people at fatwallet that buy goods from other sites to list on ebay.

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        • Lyehopper
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2004
          • 3678

          No time for other forums!.... Time is $$$$

          Originally posted by IIC
          Geez...I never imagined there was a cattle forum...What's your screen name over there?...I couldn't figure out which one was you.
          It's Lyehopper.... DUH!.... SsSsSsSsSsssss!

          I just joined in June and I've never posted over there. I just lurk sometimes. Actually I don't have time to get involved in another forum $$$Mr Market$$$'s place is all I need..... Well, How 'bout.... All I can afford!....jejeje
          BEEF!... it's whats for dinner!

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          • IIC
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2003
            • 14938

            Originally posted by diogenes
            Those “parasites” are what W. Easterly would call “searchers.”

            “Searchers treat problem-solving as an incremental discovery process, relying on competition and feedback to figure out what works.”

            From: http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/19/bo...rssnyt&emc=rss

            Essentially people that exploit asymmetric information for a profit, e.g., people at fatwallet that buy goods from other sites to list on ebay.

            That's not a bad idea. Reminds me of garage(yard) sales...There will be those early birds who know what they are looking for and know what they can resell it for...Anyone who is familiar with those sharpies knows what I'm talking about...But what about another side to the garage sale game?

            There are people who come by and peruse...they buy nothing...But they get your phone number. The night when your sale is over and you still have a bunch of junk that you are dreading hauling down to Goodwill...They call you with some story about how they are having a rummage sale at their church or the Boy's and Girl's Club or whatever...They offer to come by on Monday or Tuesday and haul everything you have left away...FOR FREE...Well, you are relieved that you don't have to load it up and take it down to Goodwill or call the Salvation Army (who won't take most of your junk anyway like they would in the 60's)...Plus...it's for a good cause...MAYBE...lol...So the guy picks up your stuff and makes a hundred bux because he knows who will buy it...Probably does that 10 times on Monday and 10 times on Tuesday...then he's off till the next round of weekend sales...Doug(IIC)
            "Trade What Is Happening...Not What You Think Is Gonna Happen"

            Find Tomorrow's Winners At SharpTraders.com

            Follow Me On Twitter

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            • JohnHenry
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2006
              • 1020

              You guys are too funny, you just made my Sunday even better.

              I too use lots of dots (…) because I’m too lazy to complete the sentence. Sometime people’s thoughts are racing a thousand miles an hour and their fingers are typing ten miles an hour, this tends to have typos. As you can tell from all my post, I have typos or misspell words.

              I love to read comic books, those reading will not benefit me for the future but it takes me away for 20 to 30 minutes.

              You know when I’m in class or when I’m reading a novel (forced to read), I day dream. Do you want to know what I’m daydreaming about? I think about girls and sex, this distraction is on my mind every minutes. When I’m in the office with a lady teacher, I don’t hear a word she says and when I’m talking to a hot girl…I have bad thoughts…lol..is this normal? Gee I’m not going to ask my parents, they will….

              It’s different when I read a math or physics book, it sometime will take me an hour or two to read one pages. I used to have a good photographic memory when I was in junior high, but I don’t have anymore film left. LOL

              In college for example, in lab such as chemistry and physics the writing of the labs are more technical compare to an English class. So far, my teachers; don’t care about grammar just as long it gets to the point. They tell us to write our report, when you drop the report on the ground, anyone can follow and compete the same steps and come to the same conclusion that you arrive.

              I read my brother’s master project, boy is it cut dry and boring. There’s no life or people in those types of papers.

              Btw BillyJoe, who’s the girl that you were talking about?

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              • Rob
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2003
                • 3194

                Sticky, I'm afraid it is "normal" to have those thoughts. But let me offer you a word of advice: do not act on those thoughts, as you will be inviting yourself into a world of trouble if you do. In fact, you should train yourself to be able to put those thoughts out of your mind and not dwell on them. You can't keep birds from flying over your head, but you can sure keep them from building a nest in your hair. People with weak minds run around and act on their impulses, like unreasoning animals. You're smarter than that, aren't you?
                —Rob

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                • skiracer
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2004
                  • 6314

                  Originally posted by IIC
                  Then I guess I better offer some explanations...the: you should've left that word out. those areas: you were only referring to one area. know that don't you: doesn't sound right...maybe some puncuation is in order. no: should be know. an: should be and. [ ]: sentence is too long. to: should be too. strategys: should be strategies. develope: should be develop.

                  Now I'm not really Mr. Grammar...that's why I use all these dots (...) By using them I don't have to think about being grammatically correct...It's my own personal style...One time a guy on some other forum asked me why I used all these friggin' dots...My response: "Because I like to". But actually, I think it is an easy way to break up these loooooong drawn out, rambling posts I sometimes put up...Like this one...LOL...Doug(IIC)
                  Geez Doug, here I thought you were going to rip me apart. Some of those are just the way you feel about it an are strictly conjecture on your part. I think "an" is correct before a vowel but I could be wrong. See Billyjoe's earlier post on that topic. I never could understand the difference of when to use to or too. With strategys and develope I was using the British style. LOL.
                  THE SKIRACER'S EDGE: MAKE THE EDGE IN YOUR FAVOR

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                  • Rob
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 3194

                    Ski, with regard to Doug's "maybe some puncuation is in order," you might ask him what happened to the first "t" in "punctuation."

                    By the way, he's correct about "and" instead of "an." The word "an" is an indefinite article used before a word that begins with a vowel or a silent consonant, such as "an apple," or "an honorable purpose." If it's used in front of words like "historic," then the "h" should not be pronounced.
                    —Rob

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                    • billyjoe
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 9014

                      Doug,
                      You might jump all over me for this. I consider Title Companies as parasite businesses and believe they pay kickbacks to realtors at least in my area. A friend of mine paid $8,000 closing costs on a $94,000 sale and very little of that went to lawyers unless the lawyers happened to own the title company. My friend was the seller and I'm sure the buyer also got ripped. I recently almost sold a $35,000 cottage through a realtor and the proposed settlement included over $800 for title examination search, title insurance, and mysterious closing fees that had nothing to do with deed preparation , transfer tax, recording fees , inspections, warrantees, pro-rated taxes , imaging document protection, pest inspection, or pro-rated assessments.
                      -------When I ask the title companies to explain their fees they can't do it. In fact, the only person present is a lowly paid secretary. I've seen some of their "researchers" at the court house and they're not too impressive either. On top of this I paid all these same fees 3 years ago to the same company for the same work and couldn't find the title at the courthouse. Turned out they transposed numbers and it was filed incorrectly. I hate Title Companies. If they'd just admit they charge me $200/hour for a minimum wage clerk to surf a file cabinet I would accept the rip off.

                      -----------billyjoe

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                      • billyjoe
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2003
                        • 9014

                        sticky,
                        The girl is our own Louetta , just turning 22 and with investing talents off the charts. I'm afraid she might be looking for an older man , but you never know.
                        -----------billyjoe

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                        • skiracer
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2004
                          • 6314

                          Originally posted by Rob
                          Ski, with regard to Doug's "maybe some puncuation is in order," you might ask him what happened to the first "t" in "punctuation."

                          By the way, he's correct about "and" instead of "an." The word "an" is an indefinite article used before a word that begins with a vowel or a silent consonant, such as "an apple," or "an honorable purpose." If it's used in front of words like "historic," then the "h" should not be pronounced.
                          Then I'm right in that all my uses of "an", they were all before words beginning in a vowel.
                          THE SKIRACER'S EDGE: MAKE THE EDGE IN YOUR FAVOR

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                          • Lyehopper
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 3678

                            Originally posted by skiracer
                            Then I'm right in that all my uses of "an", they were all before words beginning in a vowel.
                            NO!.... the word "an" is NEVER a substitute for the word "and"....

                            The word "an" IS sometimes a substitute for the word "a"....
                            BEEF!... it's whats for dinner!

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                            • billyjoe
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2003
                              • 9014

                              ski,
                              You use "too" when referring to degree of effort such as "you're going too far" or "this is too much for me". Also use "too" when you are talking about inclusion such as "I want that too" it can be used instead of "also" in that case.
                              Use "to" when mentioning a place or direction. "I'm going to the store" . Then you could ask "Can I go , too ?"(also).
                              Your use of develope did remind me of the British or Canadian forms. They also might say "colour" . In many cases "u" or "e" letters are added and often are accepted as a correct alternative spelling here. A college English teacher tried to dock me 5 points for misspelling once when I added an "e" on a word . I showed it to him in Funk and Wagnalls and got my points back.

                              ---------billyjoe

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                              • Rob
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2003
                                • 3194

                                More Boring English Lessons

                                Originally posted by skiracer
                                Then I'm right in that all my uses of "an", they were all before words beginning in a vowel.
                                But those usages, in context, were not as indefinite articles.

                                The word "and" is used to indicate a relation of connection or addition. For example, I might eat an apple, and I might eat an orange. But I should never compare apples and oranges.

                                Like Lye said, "an" is similar in meaning to "a," in that they are both indefinite articles, as opposed to the definite article "the." If, for instance, I say: "Bring me an auger bit," that's indefinite, because it means any auger bit. But if I say: "Bring me the auger bit," then it's obvious I'm referring to one bit in particular. "Boring"; get it?
                                —Rob

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