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  • New-born baby
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2004
    • 6095

    #16
    Thank You

    Originally posted by ParkTwain
    Go after al Qaeda in Afghanistan, which is what Bush did. Those guys are criminals who happen also to have a domestic political agenda for Saudi Arabia. Bush cleaned out their camps, but didn't finish the job by capturing Bin Laden.
    Thank you for your reply to the question.

    Saddam was giving money to Bin Laden. And Saddam helped with the WTC bombings--both of them--financially, information, perhaps some other ways, too. Nobody had a better motive to attack the WTC than Saddam. Myself, I would have taken Saddam out in Gulf I. But since that was not Bush 43's doings, and given the circumstances that was handed to him, I don't see how he could have done much differently. I would have gone into Iraq, but the illusion that Muslims can peacefully co-exist with anyone else is totally out of the realm of reality. By the way, Iran is another fundamentalist Islamic state. Do you want them to have a nuclear bomb? NY is right: they are pscho. If I were President I would not want to let them have a bomb.
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    • #17
      "And Saddam helped with the WTC bombings--both of them--financially, information, perhaps some other ways, too"


      Where did you get this fact?


      "Nobody had a better motive to attack the WTC than Saddam. "

      Nope. Al Qaeda had the better motive because they had already done it years before. Saddam already had his hands full. The U.S. wouldn't even let him fly his own helicopters, much less full-fledged fighter planes, in his own airspace for years. Remember the "No Fly Zone"? At the time of invasion #2, the Iraq military was a paper tiger. No threat to anyone.

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      • Rob
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2003
        • 3194

        #18
        Another Snippet

        "Vice Premier Shimon Peres said Monday in an interview to Reuters that 'the president of Iran should remember that Iran can also be wiped off the map,' Army Radio reported.

        "According to Peres, 'Teheran is making a mockery of the international community's efforts to solve the crisis surrounding Iran's nuclear program.'

        "'Iran presents a danger to the entire world, not just to us,' Peres added."
        —Rob

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        • scifos
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2004
          • 790

          #19
          Peres is known for his inflammatory language almost as much as Ahmadinejad is.
          Buy Low
          Sell High
          STAY FROSTY!

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          • #20
            'Iran presents a danger to the entire world, not just to us,' Peres added.

            Bogosity alert.

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            • #21
              Bush put his foot down on Iraq and that was the right thing to do. The UN is a bunch of spineless jellyfish. In fact I think they serve no purpose (oil crooks). Saddam laughed at them. Iran will need to be dealt with sooner of latter. We will protect Israel.

              Bush said plain as day that if you harbor terrorist we will hunt you down. I guess people thought he was joking when he said he’d attack other terrorist nations. I guess they also thought he was joking when he said this will not be over quickly. I guess we got use to things like the Grenada invasion and Panama. I did my time in Iraq and I’d do it in Iran if needed. Problem is most of are so called allies do not want to commit when the going gets tough.. Give me a break. If Iran wants to defy the world and flex their muscle I say go the POLITICAL route first and if this fails ADD THEM BASTARDS TO THE LIST and take them out.

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              • #22
                Bush hasn't invaded Syria (a harborer of terrorists, plus a participant in funneling combatants into/out of post-invasion Iraq) yet. Why not? Or was Afghanistan (widely known as a "failed state") that easy a mission to take on?
                Last edited by Guest; 05-08-2006, 04:39 PM.

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                • #23
                  Don’t worry ParkTwain, I’m sure we’ve got plans and military contingencies to deal with those BASTARDS as well.

                  Some people do not understand reason and so when reason fails tougher action is needed. How many hand slaps did the UNITED NATIONS give Iraq? Come on what a joke. Zero leadership and yes often Leadership is doing what is not popular.

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                  • Lyehopper
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 3678

                    #24
                    Originally posted by ParkTwain
                    Bush hasn't invaded Syria (a harborer of terrorists, plus a participant in the funneling of combatants into/out of post-invasion Iraq) yet. Why not? Or was Afghanistan (widely known as a "failed state") that easy a mission to take on?
                    No.... but now he has a nice central base of operations in Iraq.... all stocked with supplies, intel, men and equiptment.... that'll make the job much easier if he darn well choses to.... don't-cha-think?
                    BEEF!... it's whats for dinner!

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                    • New-born baby
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2004
                      • 6095

                      #25
                      Park

                      Originally posted by ParkTwain
                      "And Saddam helped with the WTC bombings--both of them--financially, information, perhaps some other ways, too"


                      Where did you get this fact?


                      "Nobody had a better motive to attack the WTC than Saddam. "

                      Nope. Al Qaeda had the better motive because they had already done it years before. Saddam already had his hands full. The U.S. wouldn't even let him fly his own helicopters, much less full-fledged fighter planes, in his own airspace for years. Remember the "No Fly Zone"? At the time of invasion #2, the Iraq military was a paper tiger. No threat to anyone.
                      You are entitled to think that AL Qaeda acted alone if you wish. My view is that after Saddam lost Gulf I, he had a HUGE motive to attack the US in some way. He knew he could not do it overtly (we would have toppled him); so he used the surrogate AL Qaeda. They attack the WTC in 1993, and President Clinton did nothing in retaliation. As a result Al Qaeda and Saddam think that we are weak willed and soft. So they attack again in 2001.
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                      • Websman
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2004
                        • 5545

                        #26
                        This all sounds so familiar...


                        Oh yeah.... This reminds me of the time when the Klingons tried to take over the Enterprise...Jim...uh...I mean Capt. Kirk was very brave. With his great leadership, we were able to defend ourself against the Klingon forces.

                        The Klingons have no respect for anyone in the universe...They don't even respect themselves.

                        It's great to be a Vulcan. We are superior to all other races.

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                        • New-born baby
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2004
                          • 6095

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Runner
                          Bush put his foot down on Iraq and that was the right thing to do. The UN is a bunch of spineless jellyfish. In fact I think they serve no purpose (oil crooks). Saddam laughed at them. Iran will need to be dealt with sooner of latter. We will protect Israel.

                          Bush said plain as day that if you harbor terrorist we will hunt you down. I guess people thought he was joking when he said he’d attack other terrorist nations. I guess they also thought he was joking when he said this will not be over quickly. I guess we got use to things like the Grenada invasion and Panama. I did my time in Iraq and I’d do it in Iran if needed. Problem is most of are so called allies do not want to commit when the going gets tough.. Give me a break. If Iran wants to defy the world and flex their muscle I say go the POLITICAL route first and if this fails ADD THEM [censored]TO THE LIST and take them out.
                          Runner,
                          You are a fine American soldier and me and my family are proud of you. Around here, whenever there is a parade, the Marines, Army, USAF, and the National Guard all march in it, too. And everyone around here stands and claps for them. We've got just enough sense to know that without the Armed Forces, there would be no freedom.

                          Now if some spineless politicians don't give it away for a few votes, we'll be okay.
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                          • Lyehopper
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 3678

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Websman
                            This all sounds so familiar...


                            Oh yeah.... This reminds me of the time when the Klingons tried to take over the Enterprise...Jim...uh...I mean Capt. Kirk was very brave. With his great leadership, we were able to defend ourself against the Klingon forces.

                            The Klingons have no respect for anyone in the universe...They don't even respect themselves.

                            It's great to be a Vulcan. We are superior to all other races.
                            I agree....
                            BEEF!... it's whats for dinner!

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                            • #29
                              "We've got just enough sense to know that without the Armed Forces, there would be no freedom."


                              My God, what do think was going on in America in the 1920s and 1930s, when there was no standing army in America of any major size and when there was a very strong isolationist attitude across the country? Was there no freedom in America then? What the heck are you trying to say?

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                              • New-born baby
                                Senior Member
                                • Apr 2004
                                • 6095

                                #30
                                We used an army in WWII

                                Originally posted by ParkTwain
                                "We've got just enough sense to know that without the Armed Forces, there would be no freedom."


                                My God, what do think was going on in America in the 1920s and 1930s, when there was no standing army in America of any major size and when there was a very strong isolationist attitude across the country? Was there no freedom in America then? What the heck are you trying to say?
                                I am saying that we had to raise an army to protect ourselves from Japanese aggression in WWII. When the Japanese attacked us at Pearl Harbor we were pitifully weak and very nearly could have been successfully attacked on the mainland USA. Without a capable army, gangsters such as Bin Laden and Hitler (he declared war on us 8 Dec 1941) and others would destroy us. In other words, I think we need an army. Are you trying to say we don't need one?
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