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  • New-born baby
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2004
    • 6095

    #46
    Re-think

    [QUOTE=IIC][QUOTE=New-born baby]Along with the rest of the Muslim world, his goal is to kill every Jew in the world. It is also the goal of the Muslims to exterminate everyone who is not a Muslim, i.e., that includes Christians, too. World domination is their goal.

    I am flabbergasted that you would say something like that NBB. If you are talking about the extremist Islamic Groups then I could understand...But you are including "Everyone" who is Muslim.

    I don't believe that for a second...There are 2 Muslim Mosques within walking distance of my house...One seems pretty closed knit and it appears that outsiders are not welcome...particularly women...But the other one opens its doors to everybody...In fact, that's where we have our Neighborhood Watch and Neighborhood Council meetings...And there are a lot of Jewish people that live in my area....There are also Muslims in my neighborhood...Am I to think that they are secretly storing weapons of "Mass Destruction" in their attics?

    I believe you should re-think your stereotypic view...There is no way I believe all Muslims are bad and out to exterminate Christians and Jews.

    1 outta 30 people in the US are Muslim...What are we supposed to do?...Have a Civil War?

    My take is that there are politicians; e.g. Saddam...That use religion to attempt to complement their political agendas. You can try to separate Church and State...But you can't seperate Religion and Politics...Doug(IIC)
    Doug,
    I hear what you are saying; I understand where you are coming from. Please try to understand this:

    The attitudes of the population in Southern California is quite different than the attitudes of the people of Afghanistan. Did you read/hear about the man in Afghanistan two weeks ago who converted to Christianity? They had a big trial and was going to give him the death penalty just for becoming a Christian. George Bush and many other nations and people had to intercede for the man just to get him out of the country alive. The peoples of Afghanistan were demonstrating and saying "He should die!" Does this sound tolerant to you?

    My point is that Muslims, when they are a very minute minority in a nation, act one way; when they become a majority, they act like that I described for you above. Do you think Iran, an Islamic state, is a very small minority of Muslims? Do you have any idea how people live there? Pakistan--in college a man from Pakistan who lived down the hall from me told me he became a Christian when he saw his uncle executed for refusing to deny Christ. They (the civil authorities) shot him dead in the public square. Don't you know what the Palestinians are trying to do to the Jews in Israel since 1948? Haven't you heard that the PLO is teaching the kindergarteners to "kill the Jews" and "push them into the sea?" Surely you know that they have a bomb blast every single day. Is this the open, kind Muslims you are used to?

    I am not saying that 'let's go out an kill every single Muslim we can find." I am saying that the Muslim religion is a terrorist religion, and the people of the US would do well to have a real view of the impact of the Muslim religion on the people in places where it is practiced by the majority.

    Lastly, of a Biblical nature, the book of Revelation tells us how this world concludes. There will be 7 years of extreme tribulation before Christ comes back to put an end to all the killing. About 90% of the earth's population dies during those 7 years of war and famine and disease. During that time, do you know where the political, economic, social and religious center of the world is located? Babylon. Do you know where Babylon is located? 50 miles SW of Baghdad. Do you know what every single nation of the world will be doing when Christ comes back? All the nations of the world will be gathered around Jerusalem and seeking to exterminate every single Jew and Christian.
    Last edited by New-born baby; 05-09-2006, 06:24 AM.
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    • mrmarket
      Administrator
      • Sep 2003
      • 5971

      #47
      I guess where I weigh in on this is that if my neighbor were a Muslim, I'd be happy to coach his kids and let him borrow my powerdrill.

      I also think the world will run out of oil.
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      • Rob
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2003
        • 3194

        #48
        A Time And A Place

        I would love to pontificate on my personal beliefs regarding biblical prophecy as it relates to this situation, but in the spirit of the expression at Ecclesiastes 3:7, "a time to keep silence, and a time to speak," I will bite my tongue. It just doesn't seem like the right forum for it. Consider yourself spared, 'cause I'm loaded for bear.
        —Rob

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        • New-born baby
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2004
          • 6095

          #49
          Originally posted by mrmarket
          I guess where I weigh in on this is that if my neighbor were a Muslim, I'd be happy to coach his kids and let him borrow my powerdrill.
          MM,
          So would I. I'd even loan him money. But the question at hand is "what is the right response to Islamic Fundamentalism that attacked the WTC?" Was Bush wrong to attack Afghanistan and Iraq? Coaching children and protecting the USA from terrorists bombings/attacks are different issues, imo.
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          • mrmarket
            Administrator
            • Sep 2003
            • 5971

            #50
            Originally posted by New-born baby
            MM,
            So would I. I'd even loan him money. But the question at hand is "what is the right response to Islamic Fundamentalism that attacked the WTC?" Was Bush wrong to attack Afghanistan and Iraq? Coaching children and protecting the USA from terrorists bombings/attacks are different issues, imo.

            I don't think "Islamic Fundamentalists" attacked the WTC. I think it was just a bunch of crazy assholes. Here is my reasoning:

            #1. The plan to hijack the planes was evil but diabolically brilliant. However, if there were more terrorists out there willing to die for Allah, don't you think they would have hijacked 100 planes..or 500 planes..that morning...using the element of surprise that they had that made them 75% successful?

            #2 If there was a relentless mission by all Muslims to wipe out every Christian and Jew, what are they waiting for?? One Muslims I know seem to be awfully patient...and polite towards us.

            I think if we could press a button and kill terrorists and wipe out terrorism, I'd be all for it. I think killing 200,000 innocent Iraqi civilians is a pretty big price to pay to accomplish the same objective. I'm no better than any one of those innocent civilians willing to work for a living and raise their children, no matter what their religion. But they were all victims of war, and they never picked up a weapon.

            Your opinions are always welcome. This world has been at war for thousands of years. It's naive to think that men will stop killing each other but I'd rather not be the one doing the killing.
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            • Lyehopper
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2004
              • 3678

              #51
              Muslims love goat....

              Originally posted by mrmarket
              I guess where I weigh in on this is that if my neighbor were a Muslim, I'd be happy to coach his kids and let him borrow my powerdrill.
              $$MM$$.... I have a really nice Porter-Cable 19.2 volt cordless drill.... and I have an older Makita too. I would let him borrow the Makita but I wouldn't let my own brother borrow the Porter-Cable.... Is that selfish of me $$MM$$?

              True story.... I raised meat goats for several years. I have a neighbor who lives about four miles down the creek from me who is a Muslim. He married a local gal and her father gave them about five acres and they built a nice home. He owns a pancake house in Roanoke, he's a hard worker and a good family man. Periodically he would come up to my farm and buy a goat from me. Seems that whenever his family would visit from "up north" he would slaughter a goat and they'd have a goat roast. He was always very picky about the goat. He wanted to hand pick the perfect male, one that had it's testicles in tact. Not sure why? but I figured if my market was Muslims and they wanted "billies with balls" then I'd stop banding my billies.... So, I stopped banding my billies.lol.... ANYWAY.... His nephew, who helps me during hay season, told me that they use every part of the goat and it's a traditional thing.... I stopped raising goats a couple of years ago because they are such a pain to keep contained in a pasture.... and they liked to play on top of my round hay bales and tear them all up.... Plus I had this HUUUUGE billy named "Willy" (I named him after Bill Clinton because of his sex drive).... Willy caught me with my back turned one day and hit me from behind with full force and knocked me flat on the ground and twisted my knee. I turned over and hit him in the ribs with my fist so hard I thought I had killed him. Willy layed on the ground gasping for breath with his eyes wallowed all back in his head.... I was shaking his horns yelling.... "Willy! WILLY!.... You OK!?....Willy? .... He got up after a couple of minutes and made a funny sound at me and just walked away......... Why did I tell you this story?..... OH YEAH!.... I would sell my Muslim neighbor a goat but I would not let him borrow my Porter-Cable cordless drill....
              BEEF!... it's whats for dinner!

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              • #52
                << It's naive to think that men will stop killing each other but I'd rather not be the one doing the killing. >>

                If they were pointing a gun at your children, I suspect you'd be the first in line to do the killing.

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                • mrmarket
                  Administrator
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 5971

                  #53
                  great story, Lye.
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                  • mrmarket
                    Administrator
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 5971

                    #54
                    Originally posted by DSteckler
                    << It's naive to think that men will stop killing each other but I'd rather not be the one doing the killing. >>

                    If they were pointing a gun at your children, I suspect you'd be the first in line to do the killing.

                    Yes..if I could identify them.
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                    • #55
                      << He wanted to hand pick the perfect male, one that had it's testicles in tact. Not sure why? but I figured if my market was Muslims and they wanted "billies with balls" then I'd stop banding my billies. >>

                      He was ritually slaughtering the goat according to the Islamic laws of Hallal, which is the Islamic version of the Jewish laws of kosher slaughtering. In both religions, a male animal is not fit to be ritually slaughtered unless both testicles are intact. The reasoning is that in ancient times, the slaughtering was done as an offering to G-d/Allah and it was considered improper to offer anything less than a whole or "perfect" animal.
                      Last edited by Guest; 05-09-2006, 10:12 AM.

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                      • spikefader
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2004
                        • 7175

                        #56
                        lol ya, great story Lye.

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                        • mrmarket
                          Administrator
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 5971

                          #57
                          Originally posted by DSteckler
                          << He wanted to hand pick the perfect male, one that had it's testicles in tact. Not sure why? but I figured if my market was Muslims and they wanted "billies with balls" then I'd stop banding my billies. >>

                          He was ritually slaughtering the goat according to the Islamic laws of Hallal, which is the Islamic version of the Jewish laws of kosher slaughtering. In both religions, a male animal is not fit to be ritually slaughtered unless both testicles are intact. The reasoning is that in ancient times, the slaughtering was done as an offering to G-d/Allah and it was considered improper to offer anything less than a whole or "perfect" animal.
                          I'd rather eat what I like and take my chances on what happens afterwards.
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                          • #58
                            Infidel.

                            (LOL!)

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                            • Lyehopper
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 3678

                              #59
                              Originally posted by DSteckler
                              << He wanted to hand pick the perfect male, one that had it's testicles in tact. Not sure why? but I figured if my market was Muslims and they wanted "billies with balls" then I'd stop banding my billies. >>

                              He was ritually slaughtering the goat according to the Islamic laws of Hallal, which is the Islamic version of the Jewish laws of kosher slaughtering. In both religions, a male animal is not fit to be ritually slaughtered unless both testicles are intact. The reasoning is that in ancient times, the slaughtering was done as an offering to G-d/Allah and it was considered improper to offer anything less than a whole or "perfect" animal.
                              CRAP! I missed a golden opportunity!.... I should have banded the majority of the bucks and then charged extra for the ones with balls.LOL!
                              BEEF!... it's whats for dinner!

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                              • #60
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