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  • Originally posted by Tatnic View Post
    correction...it took 3 years to get back to even. By the 4 th yr. the port is up over 18%.
    ..ok, all done.

    after 5 yrs, up 33%

    up to now (6.3 years), its up over 54% from the peak of the bull market to now, that's over 7% annual return, not counting the interest from the 30 year bonds over that period of time (which I think might add another 1% per year). Not bad. Now, I'll redo it starting 2 years later and see what the yearly return is..i'm assuming it will be around 9~10%.

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    • Originally posted by Tatnic View Post
      ..ok, all done.

      after 5 yrs, up 33%

      up to now (6.3 years), its up over 54% from the peak of the bull market to now, that's over 7% annual return, not counting the interest from the 30 year bonds over that period of time (which I think might add another 1% per year). Not bad. Now, I'll redo it starting 2 years later and see what the yearly return is..i'm assuming it will be around 9~10%.
      In the short run, timing does matter. I re-ran the model starting on January 1, 2003 and its up 78% over that 3.8 year period (16.4% annually, not counting dividends from the 30 yr. treasuries which might be another 1%/yr).

      Of course this model does not come anywhere close to the most excellent traders on this site who compound their 5% weekly returns into infinity and beyond, but its not bad for the majority of americans who have better things to do than worry about their portfolios.

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      • Originally posted by louetta12001 View Post
        Thank you. I will gaze upon them tomorrow. Time for beddy bye.
        The one I watch is $bpnya. Just trying to keep it simple..and this is a very simple indicator. I think its gone to point of being bearish but sometimes things get out of hand. At the very minimum, the yellow caution light should be flashing if it hasn't already turned red.

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        • Lyehopper
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2004
          • 3678

          Bloody, Crazed Whitetail Deer, could bring world peace!

          Originally posted by louetta12001 View Post
          Thank you for the invitation but I'll have to pass. We (well, not me) do in fact feed the deer. Mr. Marini, who owns Marini's farm stand, grows corn on land owned by the Winthrops. Those would be the same Winthrops who came over on the Arbella in 16 whatever and are descendents of the first governor of Massachusetts who must be spinning in his grave watching the current campaign. Anyway the deer come down every day just about sunset and munch away on Mr. Marini's corn. When the corn season ends the farmers hack down most of the stalks but leave a few rows for the deer to hide behind while they finish off whatever ears are left lying on the ground. They do so with impunity even during hunting season because the Winthrops would never allow hunting on their land.
          Is hunting frowned upon by the "famous since the 17th century" Winthrops Lou? That's sad because all those Northern deer the Winthrops fail to harvest every year must be migrating down here!..... In the 05-06 season 215,000 white tail were harvested by VA hunters.

          http://www.dgif.state.va.us/hunting/deerharvest.asp

          Bedford County (where I reside) has one of the highest deer populations in the state (see above link). I have many times seen deer running through city streets in Roanoke and recently a murderous crazed deer attempted to wreck a local store.

          http://www.rockymounttelegram.com/news/content/news/stories/2006/10/26/deer.html

          Now Lou! if one of your close family members had been sitting on the toilet at that store's restroom when that bloody deer barged in and you had to pay for the subsequent psychiatric rehabilitation bill?.... you'd change your tune about hunting them then, young lady! SsSsSssssss!

          In 1965 about 25,000 deer were harvested in VA.... By 1980 the number was about 75,000 and now it's headed toward a quarter million annually. Why? The deer population is out of control and the only predator to curb their growth are the lowly and despised deer hunter. hmmmmm, I say we just strap high explosives on these white tails and air drop them in North Korea and Iran.
          BEEF!... it's whats for dinner!

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          • IIC
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2003
            • 14938

            Originally posted by Lyehopper View Post
            Is hunting frowned upon by the "famous since the 17th century" Winthrops Lou? That's sad because all those Northern deer the Winthrops fail to harvest every year must be migrating down here!..... In the 05-06 season 215,000 white tail were harvested by VA hunters.

            http://www.dgif.state.va.us/hunting/deerharvest.asp

            Bedford County (where I reside) has one of the highest deer populations in the state (see above link). I have many times seen deer running through city streets in Roanoke and recently a murderous crazed deer attempted to wreck a local store.

            http://www.rockymounttelegram.com/news/content/news/stories/2006/10/26/deer.html

            Now Lou! if one of your close family members had been sitting on the toilet at that store's restroom when that bloody deer barged in and you had to pay for the subsequent psychiatric rehabilitation bill?.... you'd change your tune about hunting them then, young lady! SsSsSssssss!

            In 1965 about 25,000 deer were harvested in VA.... By 1980 the number was about 75,000 and now it's headed toward a quarter million annually. Why? The deer population is out of control and the only predator to curb their growth are the lowly and despised deer hunter. hmmmmm, I say we just strap high explosives on these white tails and air drop them in North Korea and Iran.
            So what would you suggest if the human population gets out of control Lye?
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            • Originally posted by IIC View Post
              So what would you suggest if the human population gets out of control Lye?
              You mean it isn't already? and I mean that figuratively, not literally.

              On occasion, we get a mad-moose that will rampage thru a town...its usually due to brain worm.

              In Maine we usually get about one vehicle death per year because someone hits a moose (they're impossible to see on a dark night and they rip the tops off cars when hit), compared to hundreds that are killed in car accidents not involving animals.

              On a regular basis we get what, 10,000 vehicle deaths per month in the US...so who's out of control?

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              • IIC
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2003
                • 14938

                Originally posted by Tatnic View Post
                You mean it isn't already? and I mean that figuratively, not literally.

                On occasion, we get a mad-moose that will rampage thru a town...its usually due to brain worm.

                In Maine we usually get about one vehicle death per year because someone hits a moose (they're impossible to see on a dark night and they rip the tops off cars when hit), compared to hundreds that are killed in car accidents not involving animals.

                On a regular basis we get what, 10,000 vehicle deaths per month in the US...so who's out of control?

                We could always require that car chassis be made out of rubber...that would sinificantly reduce the numbers
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                • Lyehopper
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 3678

                  Originally posted by IIC View Post
                  So what would you suggest if the human population gets out of control Lye?
                  The state of VA hasn't enacted a "people hunting" season yet.... and so far no humans have started squatting on my land or eating my crops or cattle. If that changes?.... Well, I'll let ya know.
                  BEEF!... it's whats for dinner!

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                  • Louetta
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 2331

                    Originally posted by Lyehopper View Post
                    Is hunting frowned upon by the "famous since the 17th century" Winthrops Lou? That's sad because all those Northern deer the Winthrops fail to harvest every year must be migrating down here!..... In the 05-06 season 215,000 white tail were harvested by VA hunters.

                    http://www.dgif.state.va.us/hunting/deerharvest.asp

                    Bedford County (where I reside) has one of the highest deer populations in the state (see above link). I have many times seen deer running through city streets in Roanoke and recently a murderous crazed deer attempted to wreck a local store.

                    http://www.rockymounttelegram.com/news/content/news/stories/2006/10/26/deer.html

                    Now Lou! if one of your close family members had been sitting on the toilet at that store's restroom when that bloody deer barged in and you had to pay for the subsequent psychiatric rehabilitation bill?.... you'd change your tune about hunting them then, young lady! SsSsSssssss!

                    In 1965 about 25,000 deer were harvested in VA.... By 1980 the number was about 75,000 and now it's headed toward a quarter million annually. Why? The deer population is out of control and the only predator to curb their growth are the lowly and despised deer hunter. hmmmmm, I say we just strap high explosives on these white tails and air drop them in North Korea and Iran.
                    Hunting's frowned upon by the Winthrops on their own land at any rate. I don't believe deer migrate, though they may vacation down south, I don't know. In any case, there is no overpopulation problem on the Winthrop's land or if there is then those nasty deer must be hiding from me because that is where I go to look for them.

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                    • Louetta
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 2331

                      Originally posted by Tatnic View Post
                      The one I watch is $bpnya. Just trying to keep it simple..and this is a very simple indicator. I think its gone to point of being bearish but sometimes things get out of hand. At the very minimum, the yellow caution light should be flashing if it hasn't already turned red.
                      I don't know. I agree it bears watching but not bearish methinks. And you've still got QQQQ and IWO moving up on the day and SPX pretty much neutral and not that much volume.

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                      • skiracer
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2004
                        • 6314

                        Originally posted by IIC View Post
                        So what would you suggest if the human population gets out of control Lye?
                        I'm in favor of killing them all if they won't listen to reason.
                        THE SKIRACER'S EDGE: MAKE THE EDGE IN YOUR FAVOR

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                        • IIC
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2003
                          • 14938

                          Originally posted by louetta12001 View Post
                          Hunting's frowned upon by the Winthrops on their own land at any rate. I don't believe deer migrate, though they may vacation down south, I don't know. In any case, there is no overpopulation problem on the Winthrop's land or if there is then those nasty deer must be hiding from me because that is where I go to look for them.
                          I never heard of the Winthrops...Is that your last name Louetta???
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                          • IIC
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2003
                            • 14938

                            Originally posted by louetta12001 View Post
                            I don't know. I agree it bears watching but not bearish methinks. And you've still got QQQQ and IWO moving up on the day and SPX pretty much neutral and not that much volume.
                            I rarely look at the BP for the NYSE. I follow the $BPCOMPQ (Naz Comp) and $BPNDX (Naz 100) mostly.

                            Something that was interesting on Friday...The Naz Comp was down but the $BPCOMPQ was up...From my experience this is a reliable short term indicator that the Naz will rebound. I never did a study on it but it seems to be true...Doug(IIC)
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                            • Louetta
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 2331

                              Originally posted by IIC View Post
                              I never heard of the Winthrops...Is that your last name Louetta???
                              Nope. The Winthrops are descendants of the first governor of Mass and they came over on a ship (not the Mayflower, but the Arbella) in 16 something or other. They have a large estate near my parents home and we ride on their property.

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                              • Louetta
                                Senior Member
                                • Oct 2003
                                • 2331

                                Originally posted by IIC View Post
                                I rarely look at the BP for the NYSE. I follow the $BPCOMPQ (Naz Comp) and $BPNDX (Naz 100) mostly.

                                Something that was interesting on Friday...The Naz Comp was down but the $BPCOMPQ was up...From my experience this is a reliable short term indicator that the Naz will rebound. I never did a study on it but it seems to be true...Doug(IIC)
                                I like to follow NYA. The Nasdaq gets too euphoric for me sometimes.

                                Separately, HSOA came roaring back today but is down 3% after hours. Very irritating.

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