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[Lyehopper]

Hi, Lye. Thanks for the question.

First, I am not KJV only. God gave the Bible in the original Greek and Hebrew languages, not King James' English.

Yes, I do believe God made the earth in six literal, 24 hour days as Genesis account says, "it was morning and evening, the second day . . . the third day, etc."

OK.... Another question.... In your opinion, Is the "day" spoken of at Acts 17:31 a literal 24 hour day?

[skiracer]

Rob, you've touched on what I've said on this forum before. It's not God (nor the Bible) that has given "religion" a black eye.... It's the MEN within those organizations, intrusted with dispensing truth, that have run amuck and made these (by and large) politically and selfishly motivated religious organizations.... tools for advancing their own various agendas by douping the masses.

Can we get an AMEM!!

[New-born baby]

Something just dawned on me. Because I do believe in God then I have to believe that he created earth in 6 days and rested on the 7th. Does it state anywhere the length, 24 hrs. or something else, of the days? Otherwise how can you believe in God if you don't believe in one of the basic tenents of God, earth, and man and woman. I'm wondering why I find myself at odds with some of the scriptures or moreso the way they have been diluted thru the many interpretations over the course of the last 2000 years.

The Genesis account very specifically mentions, after each day, "and it was morning and evening, the second . . . third . . . fourth . . . fifth . . . sixth day." That very well seems to nail down that it wasn't 1 million years, etc. Furthermore, you'll notice in Genesis 1:9-13 that on the second day God made dry land and vegetation. It was on the third day that He made light (Genesis 1:14-19). How long can plants live without light? Certainly not 1,000 days, years, or millenia. One has to make a choice: either Genesis is correct, or else Genesis is in error. You cannot hold to both Genesis and evolution.

One thing that drives me is this: God warns us not to add or subtract from His word. Proverbs 30:5-6 "Every word of God is tested; He is a shield to those who take refuge in Him. Do not add to His words lest He reprove you and you be found a liar." Furthermore He states in Psalm 12:6 "The words of the Lord are pure words; as silver tried in a furnace on the earth, refined seven times." In other words, like Jesus said, "Thy Word is Truth." (John 17:7). I am not going to pretend that I am smarter than what God said, and I do not believe God wrote in error.

[Lyehopper]

Can we get an AMEM!!

You mean Amen dude!.... jejeje!

[New-born baby]

OK.... Another question.... In your opinion, Is the "day" spoken of at Acts 17:31 a literal 24 hour day?

I suppose so. It is called "the Judgment Day."

[skiracer]

You mean Amen dude!.... jejeje!

Well thank you for correcting me Doug! Ya know when I looked at it before posting it I thought something was amiss but I was also caught up in my exhuberance at the finish FORG was putting in for me this week. Thank you Lye. You hit the nail right on the head with your post. My feelings exactly.

[Lyehopper]

Well thank you for correcting me Doug! Ya know when I looked at it before posting it I thought something was amiss but I was also caught up in my exhuberance at the finish FORG was putting in for me this week. Thank you Lye. You hit the nail right on the head with your post. My feelings exactly.

Now, lets not screw this thread up by talkin' about HUGE! 20% rockin' stocks here!....LOL!

[Lyehopper]

I suppose so. It is called "the Judgment Day."

OK.... Now if every time the Bible mentions a "day"?.... It is refering to a literal 24 hour period? then explain what is meant in the Bible when it says.... "But do not ignore this one fact, beloved, that with the Lord one day is like a thousand years and a thousand years like one day." 2 Peter 3:8

Could that not mean it's possible that sometimes a "day to God" could be longer than a "day to man" which is literally 24 hours. In both instances (Genisis 1-2 and Acts 17:31) the "day(s)" refered to have to do with God doing something within that "day(s)" and not man doing anything....

[New-born baby]

OK.... Now if every time the Bible mentions a "day"?.... It is refering to a literal 24 hour period? then explain what is meant in the Bible when it says.... "But do not ignore this one fact, beloved, that with the Lord one day is like a thousand years and a thousand years like one day." 2 Peter 3:8

Could that not mean it's possible that sometimes a "day to God" could be longer than a "day to man" which is literally 24 hours. In both instances (Genisis 1-2 and Acts 17:31) the "day(s)" refered to have to do with God doing something within that "day(s)" and not man doing anything....

In Genesis it specifically mentions "morning and evening, one day" (Ge. 1:5) i.e. one literal day.

In 2 Peter 3:8 Peter states that God's perspective on time is quite different from ours. A thousand years to us is like one day to God; and a day to God is like 1000 years to us. The context is referring to the "slowness" of Christ's return. Some scoffers say "it has been so long; He must not be coming." But Peter says that Christ's return, in God's estimation, is imminent, because God's perspective on time is different.

Now concerning your question: could a day to God be longer than a day to man? Answer: yes. I don't believe it to be so in the creation account; but the Day of the Lord is far longer than 1 literal day. That Day includes the seven year tribulation and the 1,000 year reign of Christ on the earth, and even includes Christ's eternal reign in heaven! From that view, a day in the Bible is sometimes longer than one literal, 24 hour day.

[skiracer]

OK.... Now if every time the Bible mentions a "day"?.... It is refering to a literal 24 hour period? then explain what is meant in the Bible when it says.... "But do not ignore this one fact, beloved, that with the Lord one day is like a thousand years and a thousand years like one day." 2 Peter 3:8

Could that not mean it's possible that sometimes a "day to God" could be longer than a "day to man" which is literally 24 hours. In both instances (Genisis 1-2 and Acts 17:31) the "day(s)" refered to have to do with God doing something within that "day(s)" and not man doing anything....

Especially in the First Testament where people lived for hundreds of years. I think there had to be a difference in the time element. But regardless God is not held to our traditional views of time and space and in the first part of your post it is clearly stated how it could be taken.

[Karel]

I really cannot comprehend that the length of the days in Genesis 1 could be an issue. In the beginning of Genesis 2 we see that these first seven days form the first week, including the first sabbath. Assigning other lengths to the days makes a mockery of that conclusion. Also, it isn't just days that are mentioned, but also morning and evening, the lightness called day and the darkness called night.

Regards,

Karel

[IIC]

Well thank you for correcting me Doug! Ya know when I looked at it before posting it I thought something was amiss but I was also caught up in my exhuberance at the finish FORG was putting in for me this week. Thank you Lye. You hit the nail right on the head with your post. My feelings exactly.

Well...Your welcome...except that I didn't post the correction...Doug

[skiracer]

Well...Your welcome...except that I didn't post the correction...Doug

I was being sarcastic in my referral please Mr. Dictionary/Thesaurus.

[Lyehopper]

I really cannot comprehend that the length of the days in Genesis 1 could be an issue. In the beginning of Genesis 2 we see that these first seven days form the first week, including the first sabbath. Assigning other lengths to the days makes a mockery of that conclusion. Also, it isn't just days that are mentioned, but also morning and evening, the lightness called day and the darkness called night.

Regards,

Karel

Karel.... Do you beleive "the flood" (as it's described in the Bible) to be an actual event? why?

[spikefader]

This is a very interesting discussion ........ and it highlights the existence of Fuzzy Christianity! hehehe

If they do exist, Fuzzy Christians must, at some point, realize that impulsive human nature will settle at some point and retrace to a critical line in the sand that will determine whether one is going to heaven or hell.

This is known as the Fuzzy 'See'. That is, one either 'Sees' God's grace and single route to heaven or one doesn't. One is either gonna shoot impulsively toward heaven up and away from the Fuzzy 'See'......or if you fail to see the Fuzzy 'See', and don't support it, then your Fuzzy 'See' is really just a Fuzzy "Me"........in which case down you go......toward that next crucial support level (near-death experience???) that may just send you rocketing up towards the light, enlightenment, and eternal life.

LOL