Pete's Money Makers

[billyjoe]

Doug,
Not to give you a hard time , but you referred to a 52 week RS. MSN in their stock wizard has a RS compared to other stocks for 3, 6, and 12 month time periods. I eliminated a couple whose 6 and 12 month RS were in the 80's and 90's, but one in particular had a 3 month RS of 13 so I felt it didn't deserve to make the cut. A 52 week RS wouldn't be representative for a stock such as JSDA that could tank tomorrow to 15 but have a 6 and 12 month RS of 99. Same way with a quickly declining EPS. I guess it just matters what time period you consider significant.

----------------billyjoe

[IIC]

Doug,
Not to give you a hard time , but you referred to a 52 week RS. MSN in their stock wizard has a RS compared to other stocks for 3, 6, and 12 month time periods. I eliminated a couple whose 6 and 12 month RS were in the 80's and 90's, but one in particular had a 3 month RS of 13 so I felt it didn't deserve to make the cut. A 52 week RS wouldn't be representative for a stock such as JSDA that could tank tomorrow to 15 but have a 6 and 12 month RS of 99. Same way with a quickly declining EPS. I guess it just matters what time period you consider significant.

----------------billyjoe

Well Billy...Can't have it all...I would love to have access to a 13 week RS...And I know where to get it...But I don't really want to pay for it.

And yes...You have found a flaw in my IIC 100...But as I say...They just meet certain criteria...You are on your own after that.

[Peter Hansen]

Clarification is in order

Guys the System "The Mother Of All Systems", specifies that the Investors Business Daily was to be used for The EPS and RS values of 80 or higher, and in determing the 52 Week High. To find what stocks were Trading In Historic High Ground he suggested using the Standard and Poor's Stockguide. This system is more than 10 yrs old and computers then were not capable of the research you can do on today's computers.
Using Morningstar , I determined that IIC's Top 5 picks were COH, MICC, PCU, ROCM and SYNL. Billie Joe's best 5 were JSDA, SLP, GROW, BTJ and WCG. I simply took the best growth of 10K over a period from 2002-2007.
I will create 2 hypothetical portfolios in AOL one each for IIC and Billie Joe. Each will have 50K divided equally , or 10K into each stock. I will use 4/20/07 close price as a start point for all stox. I will post the results periodically!
It may not be exactly as the original rules .......but we will see what happens.

[Peter Hansen]

Can You Name This Stock?

I just received a mailing over the weekend promoting a report supposedly Listing ,"The Only Stock You Will Need For The Next 10 Years." Lombardi Publications sent out the report, and I have tried some of their news letters in the past with limited success . Like most newsletters there is more "Sizzle" than "Steak".
The clues given in the letter were as follows:

1) Citi Group bought the stock.....Lots of it.

2) Institutions own 69.9% of its outstanding float.

3) Its market price has gone up an average of 66% over the past 3 years.

4) The company's sales have been doubling every three years. Last year, the company had a net , after tax profit of $475 Million on $3.2 Billion in Sales

5) The company has $1.3 Billion in cash sitting in the bank, and with a market cap of $17 Billion, it has become the number 1 company in its industry.

6) Not well known, with small, retail investors, the stock just made Bear Sterns' list of top companies in its sector

7) Finally the Company has just reported fiscal first quarter sales of $1.14 Billion and at this pace , the company will grow another 50% alone this year!

Well have you guessed this stock , neither did I , but I am reluctant to send Mr lombardi the $95 for this report LOL . Perhaps someone can figure it out with the clues?

P.S. This stock Trades on the NYSE and TSX

[billyjoe]

Well Billy...Can't have it all...I would love to have access to a 13 week RS...And I know where to get it...But I don't really want to pay for it.

And yes...You have found a flaw in my IIC 100...But as I say...They just meet certain criteria...You are on your own after that.

Doug,
MSN money has a free 3 month RS compared to all other stocks on the summary page at the bottom for research wizard on most any stock.

-------------billyjoe

[Peter Hansen]

BJ & IIC Porfolios !

Billie Joe and IIC portfolios were set up on on AOL using 50K split evenly between the 5 stocks in each portfolio. Closing prices on 4/20/07 were used as start points. The Portfolios follow.


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BILLIE JOE PORT 4/20/07

Value: 50,000.01 Gain/Loss: 0.00 (0.00%) Today: +625.52 (+1.27%)

Symbol Shares Last/NAV Net Change Pur. Price Gain/Loss Value
BTJ 280.9778 35.59 +1.31 35.59 0.00 10,000.00
GROW 340.1361 29.40 +0.37 29.40 0.00 10,000.00
JSDA 370.6449 26.98 +0.04 26.98 0.00 10,000.00
SLP 823.0453 12.15 0.00 12.15 0.00 10,000.00
WCG 109.1227 91.64 +1.07 91.64 0.00 10,000.00


Last Updated : 6:07 AM on 04/23/07



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IIC PORT 4/20/07

Value: 50,000.00 Gain/Loss: 0.00 (0.00%) Today: +1,607.36 (+3.32%)

Symbol Shares Last/NAV Net Change Pur. Price Gain/Loss Value
COH 185.9082 53.79 +1.96 53.79 0.00 10,000.00
MICC 119.2179 83.88 -0.55 83.88 0.00 10,000.00
PCU 122.8803 81.38 +2.32 81.38 0.00 10,000.00
ROCM 390.9304 25.58 +0.45 25.58 0.00 10,000.00
SYNL 279.7203 35.75 +3.03 35.75 0.00 10,000.00


Last Updated : 6:10 AM on 04/23/07

[billyjoe]

Pete,
I would never gamble my money on JSDA in real life down over 20% from high just a few days ago.

-----------billyjoe

[Peter Hansen]

RNIN May be worth a Look !

Ronin (RNIN) was given a buy rating at Vector Vest .....Its Earnings Growth Rate is 25% and its Sales Growth is 632% Per year .....and the chart is STRAIGHT UP .....IS it too late .....or should we pile on this train?

[Peter Hansen]

IIC and Billie Joe Mother of ALL Systems results 1st Day

II C and Billie The first day's results for your scans following the ," The Mother of All Systems" are as follows .......guys needless to say I was amazed , I hope both of you can reproduce those scans . IIC started off in the morning winning , but at the end of the day JSDA went into the plus column and saved the day for Billie and gave him the win. I will post results again on Friday and weekly thereafter. The rules call for a sale when any stock in the portfolio falls below RS 75, but I will just maintain the stocks currently in the portfolio . The results are given below and for one day the results are GREAT!

BILLIE JOE PORT 4/20/07

Value: 51,723.30 Gain/Loss: +1,723.30 (+3.45%) Today: +1,723.30 (+3.45%)

Symbol Shares Last/NAV Net Change Pur. Price Gain/Loss Value
BTJ 280.9778 36.40 +0.81 35.59 +227.59 10,227.59
GROW 340.1361 29.53 +0.13 29.40 +44.22 10,044.22
JSDA 370.6449 27.19 +0.21 26.98 +77.84 10,077.83
SLP 823.0453 13.64 +1.49 12.15 +1,226.34 11,226.34
WCG 109.1227 92.99 +1.35 91.64 +147.32 10,147.32


Last Updated: 8:36 PM on 04/23/07


IIC PORT 4/20/07

Value: 51,039.65 Gain/Loss: +1,039.66 (+2.08%) Today: +1,039.66 (+2.08%)

Symbol Shares Last/NAV Net Change Pur. Price Gain/Loss Value
COH 185.9082 53.35 -0.44 53.79 -81.80 9,918.20
MICC 119.2179 85.89 +2.01 83.88 +239.63 10,239.63
PCU 122.8803 83.83 +2.45 81.38 +301.06 10,301.06
ROCM 390.9304 26.30 +0.72 25.58 +281.47 10,281.47
SYNL 279.7203 36.82 +1.07 35.75 +299.30 10,299.30


Last Updated: 8:39 PM on 04/23/07

[Peter Hansen]

Can anyone name this stock?

I just received a mailing over the weekend promoting a report supposedly Listing ,"The Only Stock You Will Need For The Next 10 Years." Lombardi Publications sent out the report, and I have tried some of their news letters in the past with limited success . Like most newsletters there is more "Sizzle" than "Steak".
The clues given in the letter were as follows:

1) Citi Group bought the stock.....Lots of it.

2) Institutions own 69.9% of its outstanding float.

3) Its market price has gone up an average of 66% over the past 3 years.

4) The company's sales have been doubling every three years. Last year, the company had a net , after tax profit of $475 Million on $3.2 Billion in Sales

5) The company has $1.3 Billion in cash sitting in the bank, and with a market cap of $17 Billion, it has become the number 1 company in its industry.

6) Not well known, with small, retail investors, the stock just made Bear Sterns' list of top companies in its sector

7) Finally the Company has just reported fiscal first quarter sales of $1.14 Billion and at this pace , the company will grow another 50% alone this year!

Well have you guessed this stock , neither did I , but I am reluctant to send Mr lombardi the $95 for this report LOL . Perhaps someone can figure it out with the clues?

P.S. This stock Trades on the NYSE and TSX

Guys with the sophisticated scans maybe someone can get this stock....It would be very interesting and profitable for all !

[Tatnic]

Pete,
I would never gamble my money on JSDA in real life down over 20% from high just a few days ago.

-----------billyjoe

I agree and disagree. I own it from much lower levels so I don't feel like its a gamble and I think 5 years from now it will be much higher (after accounting for splits). But I cannot bring myself to commit any more cash after that huge runnup so I understand where you're coming from.

[Tatnic]

Guys with the sophisticated scans maybe someone can get this stock....It would be very interesting and profitable for all !

nothing to get excited about, really.

....I found 11 stocks to start with around that mcap and exchange, 2~3 potential shorts. Here's the 4 that may have potential on the long side, and a couple pay a decent dividend. Don't know if they're the mystery stock but if one of them is, I guess you could do worse. Out of the 5 if I were forced to choose just one I'd pass.

TV PPL CN SRE PLD

[IIC]

Guys with the sophisticated scans maybe someone can get this stock....It would be very interesting and profitable for all !

Pete...I have a policy..."If I can't find it in 3 minutes I give up"

As far as Today's results...Heck, it is not my scan...It is your's

[Peter Hansen]

TATNIC Thanx

nothing to get excited about, really.

....I found 11 stocks to start with around that mcap and exchange, 2~3 potential shorts. Here's the 4 that may have potential on the long side, and a couple pay a decent dividend. Don't know if they're the mystery stock but if one of them is, I guess you could do worse. Out of the 5 if I were forced to choose just one I'd pass.

TV PPL CN SRE PLD

Tatnic thank you for your list of possibilities for the "Mystery StocK" I will study the ones you listed . Maybe I should spring for the 95 Dollars and get the name of that stock? ...... As the old saying goes .......Curiosity Killed the cat LOL

[skiracer]

Pete...I have a policy..."If I can't find it in 3 minutes I give up"

As far as Today's results...Heck, it is not my scan...It is your's

When I first read Pete's post on the "Mother of all Scans" it didn't dawn on my about the difference between RSI and just RS. IBD assigns a relative strength number while RSI is simply an indicatior. I was plugging in RSI 80 which would be much different and way into the overbought area on the RSI indicator scale. Two entirely different animals. My fault and I'm sorry for getting it wrong.
On the other hand I don't see myself using IBD's RS rating for any of my scans. I just don't trust any of their numbers or use any of their stuff other than the CanSlim theory in a fashion when searching for stocks. I think it spells out decent parameters to start a base when searching for fundamentals. Other than that I don't use them and I would advise you guys against using them also.