Cup w/ Handles

[jae16]

FYI...Our Cups w/ Handles and Patterns of Interest are updated for this week at http://SharpTraders.com

Please take a look...thx...Doug(IIC)

SII... I got this off of IIC's cup and handle list... I think you guys should seriously put this on your watch list... It is a real clean cup that appears to be forming the handle... To top this off, they have great fundamentals...

IMHO, you should keep a watch out on this one...

[IIC]

FYI...Our Cups w/ Handles and Patterns of Interest are updated for this week at http://SharpTraders.com

Please take a look...thx...Doug(IIC)

[billyjoe]

Jae,
Another free source. Go to MSNmoney.com , click on investing, on the left under "find stocks" click on "categories". You'll see a drop down menu. Take it from there. It's a little vague with descriptions of categories but you'll find some overlap with barcharts for sure.It ranks stocks within each category.

Anyone else here go to MSN stockscouter? I use it as a source to develope lists and the past few weeks I can't get a list by rating number. For instance today it will say "page generated Jan.5, '08" and will give the time but nothing appears on the page. Any suggestions? Thanks

------------billyjoe

[IIC]

Here is another FREE one http://tal.marketgauge.com/PHSFree/P...e=PRV_PHSTODAY

Will give you either one day or 3 months for free

You can also poke around at these free sites:

http://biz.yahoo.com/ic/

http://www.bigcharts.com/custom/wsjie/industry/default.asp?bcind_ind=bc_top&bcind_period=3mo&mod=rt_marketdata

Of course you could pay for IBD groups...You'd get Daily and 6 month standings

There actually are quite a few places to get groups...although none of them are consistent...Too bad there is not a STANDARD for Sectors and Groups

[skiracer]

http://www2.barchart.com I use BarCharts almost exclusively. Alot of stuff and all for free. Check out the list on the left side.

[IIC]

This is very good advice that I will certainly consider... I especially like the idea to look at the strongest indust. and look through their top stocks...

Where do you look for Industry Groups?...And what time frame are you looking for as far as group movement?

[skiracer]

This is very good advice that I will certainly consider... I especially like the idea to look at the strongest indust. and look through their top stocks...

You could also click on the link below for some decent dialogue on some of my favorite charts and patterns and see some good swing trades happening right before your eyes with the plan and discipline laid out real time as the trades are made.
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[jae16]

If you were to subscribe to StockCharts you would be able to make up to 500 lists of stocks and their charts and it makes it very easy to flow through a large number of charts. But just because you look at a large number of charts quickly doesn't mean anything because you will invariably lose a high number of winning patterns in your haste. You could think in terms of what are the strong sectors and look at the top 10 stocks in each sector and what pattern or formations their charts are forming. If you are talking primarily of the technical side of analysis then you have to know what are the chart patterns that work best the highest percentage of times and to determine market trend. There is alot to know about that will cut alot of the chaff out of the wheat and will maximize your time spent in looking at only the charts that are worthwhile. It's alot of work and takes alot of time. You cannot just run through it. Good luck.

This is very good advice that I will certainly consider... I especially like the idea to look at the strongest indust. and look through their top stocks...

[IIC]

My problem is, I am having a tough time finding an efficient method of looking at a lot of stocks... do you just type the symbols in, or are you using a list?

Unfortuately I don't know of a free way to do it. Mostly I copy paste various lists into a stockcharts.com folder...then I can look at 30 small charts per page...later when I've narrowed my lists down I can look at larger charts.

[skiracer]

My problem is, I am having a tough time finding an efficient method of looking at a lot of stocks... do you just type the symbols in, or are you using a list?

If you were to subscribe to StockCharts you would be able to make up to 500 lists of stocks and their charts and it makes it very easy to flow through a large number of charts. But just because you look at a large number of charts quickly doesn't mean anything because you will invariably lose a high number of winning patterns in your haste. You could think in terms of what are the strong sectors and look at the top 10 stocks in each sector and what pattern or formations their charts are forming. If you are talking primarily of the technical side of analysis then you have to know what are the chart patterns that work best the highest percentage of times and to determine market trend. There is alot to know about that will cut alot of the chaff out of the wheat and will maximize your time spent in looking at only the charts that are worthwhile. It's alot of work and takes alot of time. You cannot just run through it. Good luck.

[jae16]

I'm always looking for ones I don't find...Also looking for critques on the ones I do find.

I look at a MINIMUM 800 charts...but sometimes up to 2000 each weekend...And sometimes I look at more during the week when I have time.

I look at most charts DAILY 6 months or One Year.

I run the CwH scan at Stockfetcher.com...That gives me a few

I run some basic fundamental scans from my database...which you cannot do...I can just flip thru the charts Bamm Bamm Bamm

I run some scans via some other sites...I scan all of my own IIC 100 and the IBD 100 stocks...Of course I look at last week's lists...Put them in a Stockcharts.com folder and I can see the small 1 year charts 30 up...I jot down the interesting ones for a closer look.

If I'm still below 800 then I might look at the Naz 100 or some other index.

My problem is, I am having a tough time finding an efficient method of looking at a lot of stocks... do you just type the symbols in, or are you using a list?

[IIC]

Doug,
"Pivot Window"...............Excellent! I'd define it as area between low point of handle and flash point, but what's a few cents either way?

------------billyjoe

OK...Gotta give Billy credit...He's the one that came up with the term PIVOT WINDOW because I never had a name for it

[IIC]

Well I am certainly gonna check out the site, and sign up for the cup w/ handle mailer...

one question is, how are you going through so many charts? Where are you finding them all, and how do you click through them so quickly... in addition to this, what time frame are you making your standard analysis with... ie 3 mo. 6 mo. 1 yr???

I was also wondering what kind of participation are you looking for in this forum... did you want additional cup w/ handle patterns that we find... or what?

I'm always looking for ones I don't find...Also looking for critques on the ones I do find.

I look at a MINIMUM 800 charts...but sometimes up to 2000 each weekend...And sometimes I look at more during the week when I have time.

I look at most charts DAILY 6 months or One Year.

I run the CwH scan at Stockfetcher.com...That gives me a few

I run some basic fundamental scans from my database...which you cannot do...I can just flip thru the charts Bamm Bamm Bamm

I run some scans via some other sites...I scan all of my own IIC 100 and the IBD 100 stocks...Of course I look at last week's lists...Put them in a Stockcharts.com folder and I can see the small 1 year charts 30 up...I jot down the interesting ones for a closer look.

If I'm still below 800 then I might look at the Naz 100 or some other index.

[billyjoe]

Doug,
"Pivot Window"...............Excellent! I'd define it as area between low point of handle and flash point, but what's a few cents either way?

------------billyjoe

[jae16]

I'm back...First of all let me give you some terms I use:

Flash Point (F/P)=$.01 above the right side Cup High or another resistance point

Pivot Point (P/P)=$.10 above the right side Cup High or another resistance point

Pivot Window (P/W)=The upward price movement of the handle, preferably off of a support point (e.g. 20ema, 50sma, 10ema etc...) up to the Flash Point

Action Point (A/P)=The point where you consider a buy...However, this is subjective and only you can decide wher it is.

I like to buy these pre Break Out (B/O)...Often times I will trim as it approaches the F/P in case the Breakout fails.

There are other things I watch like Price/Volume (P/V)...But my main point is that I am not always looking for Breakouts.

As far as MACD...It is only one indicator that I use...Just because they crossover on the default criteria which is 12,26,9 doesn't mean they are gonna go up though...Actually, for my own purposes I use shorter term MACD's.

I'm not here to sell anything (Although I do OK on Google Clicks and Affiliate ads) but I have a site http://SharpTraders.com and a 1 -2x weekly CwH email (Which includes my Crystal Ball's MACD Crossover projections)...That's what that was all about....EVERYTHING I OFFER...Which are really just Pre-Work for those interested is FREE...My stuff is just ideas...NOT recommendations.

I would post more CwH stuff here if we could get a little more group participation on this thread.

Best, Doug(IIC)

Well I am certainly gonna check out the site, and sign up for the cup w/ handle mailer...

one question is, how are you going through so many charts? Where are you finding them all, and how do you click through them so quickly... in addition to this, what time frame are you making your standard analysis with... ie 3 mo. 6 mo. 1 yr???

I was also wondering what kind of participation are you looking for in this forum... did you want additional cup w/ handle patterns that we find... or what?