XxxXxxXxx says BUY UTRM. Then it jumps 88%...thoughts?

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  • Stuck
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    • Mar 2009
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    XxxXxxXxx says BUY UTRM. Then it jumps 88%...thoughts?

    Turns out to be a manipulated stock.
    Last edited by Stuck; 04-08-2009, 01:21 PM.
  • Karel
    Administrator
    • Sep 2003
    • 2199

    #2
    My thoughts are: please do not post stuff like this again, or I am sorely tempted to ban you.

    Regards,

    Karel
    My Investopedia portfolio
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    • Peter Hansen
      Banned
      • Jul 2005
      • 3968

      #3
      Karel

      Karel I obtained this POST from YAHOO FINANCE ....basically I think UTRM is a "PUMP AND DUMP STOCK" The Following post says it all!





      "UTRM sell now!!! 6-Apr-09 04:34 pm If you have any gains, this is a manipulated stock!!!


      Sentiment : Strong Sell
      Rating :
      (No ratings)Rate it:
      dudi7777


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      Chile "


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      • Peter Hansen
        Banned
        • Jul 2005
        • 3968

        #4
        Mela

        MELA is also a speculative stock , but the charts look good .....and it is listed on the NASDAQ....and MOST IMPORTANT .....is that you can set a STOP. Going into any stock these days without a stop is like walking on to a shooting range with a target strapped to your back!

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        • Stuck
          Member
          • Mar 2009
          • 48

          #5
          Ok. From the responses i suppose this is a very risky stock. Thanks.

          My thoughts are: please do not post stuff like this again, or I am sorely tempted to ban you.
          I am new to all this. is that site usually a scam?

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          • Stuck
            Member
            • Mar 2009
            • 48

            #6
            Originally posted by Peter Hansen View Post
            Karel I obtained this POST from YAHOO FINANCE ....basically I think UTRM is a "PUMP AND DUMP STOCK" The Following post says it all!





            "UTRM sell now!!! 6-Apr-09 04:34 pm If you have any gains, this is a manipulated stock!!!


            Sentiment : Strong Sell
            Rating :
            (No ratings)Rate it:
            dudi7777


            2/Male
            Chile "


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            I looked at the stock news and it looked like a legit thing. not sure anymore after I read these replys. LOL


            Edit: not sure if that sales call has gone through for the open. its up 10%.

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            • Karel
              Administrator
              • Sep 2003
              • 2199

              #7
              Originally posted by Stuck View Post
              I looked at the stock news and it looked like a legit thing. not sure anymore after I read these replys. LOL
              http://finance.aol.com/quotes/united...s-inc/utrm/nao
              The stock may be legitimate, but the manipulating surrounding it certainly isn't. Just read the overcharged pumping in the mails you cite.

              Regards,

              Karel
              My Investopedia portfolio
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              • Stuck
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                • Mar 2009
                • 48

                #8
                Originally posted by Karel View Post
                The stock may be legitimate, but the manipulating surrounding it certainly isn't. Just read the overcharged pumping in the mails you cite.

                Regards,

                Karel
                Alright, I deleted those emails. still if people have more info on this stock please contribute.

                Also read the news links above, it looks like it has a patent on a new tooth brush (apparently doesn't require rinsing) that might look interesting.

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                • peanuts
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2006
                  • 3365

                  #9
                  garbage!

                  Originally posted by Stuck View Post
                  ...Also read the news link above, it looks like it has a patent on a new tooth brush (apparently doesn't require rinsing) that might look interesting.

                  "Hey baby, check this out... I just got this cool new toothbrush that I never have to rinse. It's the best thing ever! I use it everyday and I just throw it on the counter and walk away. Then I just put some toothpaste on it again and whammo: I've got pearly whites. I haven't rinsed this thing in 2 weeks! Now come here and give me a kiss"

                  Where can I buy one of these toothbrushes? I'm ready to start saving water.
                  Hide not your talents.
                  They for use were made.
                  What's a sundial in the shade?

                  - Benjamin Franklin

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                  • Stuck
                    Member
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 48

                    #10
                    umm

                    Umm So the news can be false too?? please explain. It is a legit news site that has news on every stock.



                    Last edited by Stuck; 04-07-2009, 10:44 AM.

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                    • peanuts
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2006
                      • 3365

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Stuck View Post
                      Umm So the news can be false too?? please explain. It is a legit news site that has news on every stock.

                      http://money.aol.com/news/articles/q.../rfid200854829
                      I can put out a press release that my farts smell like cherries when I eat a special product. But does it make it true? Ever hear of snake oil?

                      Don't take this the wrong way, but you have a spongy type thing underneath that hard shell between your shoulders... it can be used to help you make a reasonable conclusion on the validity of any claim.
                      Hide not your talents.
                      They for use were made.
                      What's a sundial in the shade?

                      - Benjamin Franklin

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                      • Stuck
                        Member
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 48

                        #12
                        Fair enough. so they can claim stuff in news without evidence. I will wait few days to see how it fares. it is already up 16% today.
                        Last edited by Stuck; 04-07-2009, 04:57 PM.

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                        • Stuck
                          Member
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 48

                          #13
                          Well i just woke up.. this is fourth day in a row it has gone up.. (27% this time). Do stock pumping last this long or grow this fast?

                          Also it is listed as a hot stock now under bloomberg 24/7 stock alerts.. do they show pumped stocks usually there?


                          I want people more knowledgeable than me possibly looking into this. not just dismissing it out of hand.

                          Edit: I see mrmarket is on, I would appreciate it if you helped a newbi look into this stock a bit to see there if there is anything there.
                          Last edited by Stuck; 04-07-2009, 05:44 PM.

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                          • Karel
                            Administrator
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 2199

                            #14
                            I looked into it. The product is hilarious. There is no news, apart from press announcements by the company itself. The way I see it, the co. had attracted venture capital (Bel Ea) and is now going public: the time for the initial investors to make money. Suspicious fact: there are only 218K shares outstanding. With the current price (<1$) that means manipulation heaven. I suspect that there are a lot of shares hanging over the market, but that information is "N/A". There also seem to be deals with penny stock "services" for "Investor Relation Services" for the company. The price mentioned there is hardly compensated for at the current market cap, especially considering that other "services" will have been contacted too.

                            I no longer think the stock may be legitimate.

                            It is perfectly possible to make money with shady stocks.

                            Regards,

                            Karel
                            My Investopedia portfolio
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                            • Peter Hansen
                              Banned
                              • Jul 2005
                              • 3968

                              #15
                              Stuck

                              Originally posted by Stuck View Post
                              Umm So the news can be false too?? please explain. It is a legit news site that has news on every stock.



                              http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=avygqyxyDkTE
                              Stuck I assume that you are in the stock ........IF you are making a profit gradually sell some off until you are playing with their money .....or perhaps JUST SELL IT ALL ,TAKE PROFITS AND NEVER LOOK BACK!

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