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  • riverbabe
    Senior Member
    • May 2005
    • 3373

    #76
    Özil the German

    Op-Ed Columnist
    Özil the German
    By ROGER COHEN
    Published: July 1, 2010

    JOHANNESBURG — No player has fascinated me more at the World Cup than Mesut Özil. He has the languid self-assurance on the ball that comes only to the greatest footballers. Where others are hurried, he has time. He conjures space with a shrug. His left foot can, with equal ease, caress a pass or unleash a shot.

    Özil, at 21, oozes class. He’s a German. That’s part of my fascination. Özil’s a Muslim German of Turkish descent who believes he has married traditions: “My technique and feeling for the ball is the Turkish side to my game. The discipline, attitude and always-give-your-all is the German part.”

    The technique undid Ghana in the group stage with a fizzing volleyed goal. The attitude left England’s Gareth Barry for dead as Özil burst down the left wing to set up Germany’s fourth goal in its demolition of English illusions. Poor England, consumed by inhibition before Özil’s invention!

    Özil’s a German but only just. The years I spent in Berlin in the late 1990s were marked by angry debate as the country moved from a “Volkisch” view of nationality — one based on the bloodlines of the German Volk — to a more liberal law that gave millions of immigrants an avenue to citizenship for the first time. Özil would not have been German until the immigration law of 1999.

    It’s this legislation that has birthed the Germany of Özil and his teammates Sami Khedira and Jerome Boateng (Tunisian and Ghanaian fathers respectively) and Cacau (naturalized Brazilian) and Dennis Aogo (Nigerian descent). The Volk have spread wings to hoist Germany into the last eight.

    There’s a third reason, beyond brilliance and birthright, for my fascination with Özil. He is probably only on the team because “The Big Man” of the German squad, Michael Ballack, was injured a few weeks before the tournament. "

    This is a link, if you want to read his opinion further (or ignore it). The above is the interesting stuff about Özil.

    In this year’s World Cup, “The Big Man” model of both soccer and Africa has proved to be outdated.

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    • microchips
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2009
      • 147

      #77
      River,
      .......So what you are saying is that you won the bet by default because the German team were not realy Germans at all but cobbled together from different parts of Europe and beyond!! at least the English were mostly born and bred in England. It has become a farce in most sports that just because some distant relative is native to that country you can if the country wants you become a citizen overnight!;its like saying if a dog is born in a stable its a horse, of course it isnt its still a bloody dog...LOL...

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      • microchips
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2009
        • 147

        #78
        Germany to win the Grease Fairies!!!!

        Originally posted by riverbabe View Post
        You're ON baby. Spain was an early favorite. They just might take it, but Germany is a mighty fine opponent. I'll take the other side of whichever you want. It's going to be pretty even and unpredictable, so a fair bet either way.
        River.
        .......The Germans took it away now they can give it back!! so i will take Germany to beat the grease fairies if that is OK with you! Karel's team play tonight ( Holland ) and i think it will be Holland-Germany in the final. Anyhow you vision of loveliness, if Germany win you can still buy me $100 of stock of your choice and do with it what you will for twelve months; me on the other hand will double your holdings in BP.L which are 10% up on last week.Hope you had a good weekend and may the best team WIN ..LOL..

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        • Peter Hansen
          Banned
          • Jul 2005
          • 3968

          #79
          Micro

          Originally posted by microchips View Post
          River.
          .......The Germans took it away now they can give it back!! so i will take Germany to beat the grease fairies if that is OK with you! Karel's team play tonight ( Holland ) and i think it will be Holland-Germany in the final. Anyhow you vision of loveliness, if Germany win you can still buy me $100 of stock of your choice and do with it what you will for twelve months; me on the other hand will double your holdings in BP.L which are 10% up on last week.Hope you had a good weekend and may the best team WIN ..LOL..
          An Octopus on CNBC actually picked SPAIN to win the whole ball of wax! Why bother watching?

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          • microchips
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2009
            • 147

            #80
            Originally posted by Peter Hansen View Post
            An Octopus on CNBC actually picked SPAIN to win the whole ball of wax! Why bother watching?
            Pete.
            .....The Octopus is a German plant to lull the Spanish into a false sense of security and besides its dyslexic lol...Why do you fancy same bet as River?

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            • riverbabe
              Senior Member
              • May 2005
              • 3373

              #81
              Originally posted by microchips View Post
              River.
              .......The Germans took it away now they can give it back!! so i will take Germany to beat the grease fairies if that is OK with you! Karel's team play tonight ( Holland ) and i think it will be Holland-Germany in the final. Anyhow you vision of loveliness, if Germany win you can still buy me $100 of stock of your choice and do with it what you will for twelve months; me on the other hand will double your holdings in BP.L which are 10% up on last week.Hope you had a good weekend and may the best team WIN ..LOL..
              Micro, Germany is going to walk all over the fairies. I watched Spain play Paraguay. Man alive, they are gonna get killed by Germany. It would really be foolish of me to take Spain. Why don't we wait till the Germany/whoever/Holland final? That will be a lot more matched than the rout that is sure to take place tomorrow! please? please? please?

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              • microchips
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2009
                • 147

                #82
                NO chance!!!

                Originally posted by riverbabe View Post
                Micro, Germany is going to walk all over the fairies. I watched Spain play Paraguay. Man alive, they are gonna get killed by Germany. It would really be foolish of me to take Spain. Why don't we wait till the Germany/whoever/Holland final? That will be a lot more matched than the rout that is sure to take place tomorrow! please? please? please?
                River,
                .......Yes Spain did play crap as they have throughout the cup and a lot of better teams have gone out ( England not included ).But alas my dear girl you only get the ladies prerogative once! So sorry you had better pray that the "Grease Fairies" play there hearts out or you never know they might not turn up.What did you say earlier mmmmmmmm oh yes it will be a fair bet and it will be an even match and that you would take the opposite side to whichever i picked. You never know you might even enjoy the match and there could very well be a big upset! may the best team win ha ha ha ha.....LOL..

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                • riverbabe
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2005
                  • 3373

                  #83
                  Okay, meanie, I'll take Spain SHORT. What? Never shorted a bet? Time to be creative, my friend. I'll bet Spain, to lose.

                  Germany wins, we both win. Spain wins, we both lose. Either way, it's a draw. HAH! Take that and that!

                  On second thought, I won't do that to you. I'll honour my honour and take Spain LONG. Like you said, they might wake up out of their torpor and surprise everybody. Just wish they were younger and faster and had more moves and patterns than about three. It's 2-1/2 hours to show time.

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                  • riverbabe
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2005
                    • 3373

                    #84
                    Villa the Spaniard

                    In all fairness:

                    David Villa Is Creative Force in Spain’s Attack
                    By JERÉ LONGMAN
                    Published: July 6, 2010

                    DURBAN, South Africa — In the second round of the World Cup, David Villa of Spain bore in on the Portuguese goalkeeper, shooting with his left leg, reaching for the rebound with his right leg, punching the ball into the net with the same versatility in his feet that a boxer has in his fists. David Villa of Spain is tied for the goals lead in this World Cup.

                    (inset picture) David Villa after scoring in Spain’s 1-0 quarterfinal victory against Paraguay on Saturday.

                    While Didier Drogba has gone home with a broken arm, and Wayne Rooney and Lionel Messi have departed with shattered expectations, it is Villa who is tied for the lead in the tournament with five goals, putting Spain into the semifinals for the first time in a highly anticipated match against Germany here on Wednesday.

                    “He is in a state of grace, as it were,” Vicente del Bosque, Spain’s coach, said Tuesday of Villa. “He has scored whenever he wants.” Well, almost. There could be, should be, six goals instead of five, but Villa somehow sent a penalty shot wide in the first round on a failed bid for a third goal against Honduras, leaving his face full of shock and disgust. Otherwise, he has been clever and predatory, sliding ecstatically on his knees in celebration, saluting fans with a matador’s wave, the soul patch on his chin suggesting jazzy improvisation and rapacious intent.

                    “He is extremely skilled technically, excellent one on one, very fast,” Joachim Löw, Germany’s coach, said of Villa. “When it comes to finishing his chances, he’s almost second to none.” Even Villa’s nickname, the Kid, conjures a gunslinger’s quick shot and threatening audacity. “David is very self-assured,” the Spanish midfielder Xabi Alonso said. “He’s been a menace for every defense so far. He is the reference when it comes to our attack. We hope he can keep doing it to the final, and others can follow his good performance.”

                    Villa has spoken supportively of Torres, appreciative of the way he serves as a kind of cursor, dragging defenders and goalkeepers away, leaving space for him to dart between two opponents the way Villa did for a spectacular goal against Honduras with his right foot, or to curve a shot into an open net from 40 yards the way he did against Chile with his left foot. Such dexterity was born of necessity after Villa broke his right femur as a 4-year-old in the Asturian mining village of Tuilla. With his right leg plastered in a cast, Villa insisted on continuing to play soccer, so his father taught him how to use his left leg. “He would be there throwing me the ball over and over,” Villa told The Guardian of London. “I can barely remember a single training session when my dad wasn’t there.”

                    At 28, Villa has scored a remarkable 43 goals in 63 appearances for Spain — one shy of tying the national team record held by Raúl — along with 160 goals in 258 club matches in La Liga over the past five seasons. He was the leading scorer at the 2008 European championship (even though he missed the final). He and Torres led Spain with three goals apiece at the 2006 World Cup. Here in South Africa, Villa has scored all but one of Spain’s goals, most recently pinging the ball off both goal posts in a 1-0 victory over Paraguay in the quarterfinals as his teammates dog-piled on top of him in rapturous liberation. “I’m happy with my five goals because they’ve been decisive,” Villa said. “It’s different when you win by a lot of goals. It doesn’t hold the same feeling as winning this way.”

                    After the World Cup, Villa will join Barcelona in La Liga, Spain’s top league. But until now, he never played for the biggest clubs, and seldom in the biggest club competitions, as he moved from Sporting de Gijon to Real Zaragoza to Valencia. Yet he has repeatedly distinguished himself when called to play for his country. The stage and the spotlight have inspired and elevated instead of diminished.

                    “He hasn’t played for the big clubs, so we haven’t seen the real Villa until now,” said Damian Lopez, a reporter for Rac 1 radio in Barcelona. “In the World Cup, he is being discovered. Unlike a lot of strikers, he doesn’t have to receive the ball with his back to the goal. He can face the goalkeeper and make a play for himself. And he can play with other great players, moving the ball, dribbling. Some strikers can only make goals; he can play.”

                    Löw conceded Tuesday that Spain was the World Cup team with the “most stringent organization and best firepower.” If Germany’s 4-0 victory over Argentina was any indication, its midfield will try to squeeze Xavi, Spain’s playmaker, and attempt to rush forward in a blistering counterattack.

                    Except for its opener against Switzerland, though, Spain has always found a response with the steeliness of Villa. “He is very clever, good on the left and on the right,” Miroslav Klose, a German forward who has four goals, said. “He is like Lionel Messi — it takes a whole team to work together to keep him quiet. When he is one on one, he can be very dangerous.”

                    You can read the rest of the article here: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/07/sp...html?th&emc=th

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                    • microchips
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 147

                      #85
                      Originally posted by riverbabe View Post
                      In all fairness:

                      David Villa Is Creative Force in Spain’s Attack
                      By JERÉ LONGMAN
                      Published: July 6, 2010

                      DURBAN, South Africa — In the second round of the World Cup, David Villa of Spain bore in on the Portuguese goalkeeper, shooting with his left leg, reaching for the rebound with his right leg, punching the ball into the net with the same versatility in his feet that a boxer has in his fists. David Villa of Spain is tied for the goals lead in this World Cup.

                      (inset picture) David Villa after scoring in Spain’s 1-0 quarterfinal victory against Paraguay on Saturday.

                      While Didier Drogba has gone home with a broken arm, and Wayne Rooney and Lionel Messi have departed with shattered expectations, it is Villa who is tied for the lead in the tournament with five goals, putting Spain into the semifinals for the first time in a highly anticipated match against Germany here on Wednesday.

                      “He is in a state of grace, as it were,” Vicente del Bosque, Spain’s coach, said Tuesday of Villa. “He has scored whenever he wants.” Well, almost. There could be, should be, six goals instead of five, but Villa somehow sent a penalty shot wide in the first round on a failed bid for a third goal against Honduras, leaving his face full of shock and disgust. Otherwise, he has been clever and predatory, sliding ecstatically on his knees in celebration, saluting fans with a matador’s wave, the soul patch on his chin suggesting jazzy improvisation and rapacious intent.

                      “He is extremely skilled technically, excellent one on one, very fast,” Joachim Löw, Germany’s coach, said of Villa. “When it comes to finishing his chances, he’s almost second to none.” Even Villa’s nickname, the Kid, conjures a gunslinger’s quick shot and threatening audacity. “David is very self-assured,” the Spanish midfielder Xabi Alonso said. “He’s been a menace for every defense so far. He is the reference when it comes to our attack. We hope he can keep doing it to the final, and others can follow his good performance.”

                      Villa has spoken supportively of Torres, appreciative of the way he serves as a kind of cursor, dragging defenders and goalkeepers away, leaving space for him to dart between two opponents the way Villa did for a spectacular goal against Honduras with his right foot, or to curve a shot into an open net from 40 yards the way he did against Chile with his left foot. Such dexterity was born of necessity after Villa broke his right femur as a 4-year-old in the Asturian mining village of Tuilla. With his right leg plastered in a cast, Villa insisted on continuing to play soccer, so his father taught him how to use his left leg. “He would be there throwing me the ball over and over,” Villa told The Guardian of London. “I can barely remember a single training session when my dad wasn’t there.”

                      At 28, Villa has scored a remarkable 43 goals in 63 appearances for Spain — one shy of tying the national team record held by Raúl — along with 160 goals in 258 club matches in La Liga over the past five seasons. He was the leading scorer at the 2008 European championship (even though he missed the final). He and Torres led Spain with three goals apiece at the 2006 World Cup. Here in South Africa, Villa has scored all but one of Spain’s goals, most recently pinging the ball off both goal posts in a 1-0 victory over Paraguay in the quarterfinals as his teammates dog-piled on top of him in rapturous liberation. “I’m happy with my five goals because they’ve been decisive,” Villa said. “It’s different when you win by a lot of goals. It doesn’t hold the same feeling as winning this way.”

                      After the World Cup, Villa will join Barcelona in La Liga, Spain’s top league. But until now, he never played for the biggest clubs, and seldom in the biggest club competitions, as he moved from Sporting de Gijon to Real Zaragoza to Valencia. Yet he has repeatedly distinguished himself when called to play for his country. The stage and the spotlight have inspired and elevated instead of diminished.

                      “He hasn’t played for the big clubs, so we haven’t seen the real Villa until now,” said Damian Lopez, a reporter for Rac 1 radio in Barcelona. “In the World Cup, he is being discovered. Unlike a lot of strikers, he doesn’t have to receive the ball with his back to the goal. He can face the goalkeeper and make a play for himself. And he can play with other great players, moving the ball, dribbling. Some strikers can only make goals; he can play.”

                      Löw conceded Tuesday that Spain was the World Cup team with the “most stringent organization and best firepower.” If Germany’s 4-0 victory over Argentina was any indication, its midfield will try to squeeze Xavi, Spain’s playmaker, and attempt to rush forward in a blistering counterattack.

                      Except for its opener against Switzerland, though, Spain has always found a response with the steeliness of Villa. “He is very clever, good on the left and on the right,” Miroslav Klose, a German forward who has four goals, said. “He is like Lionel Messi — it takes a whole team to work together to keep him quiet. When he is one on one, he can be very dangerous.”

                      You can read the rest of the article here: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/07/sp...html?th&emc=th
                      River,
                      ........They can say and write what they like! they could even say that England should be in the final but we all know that is crap and so are Spain you never know there could be another wager when it comes to the final.

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                      • riverbabe
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2005
                        • 3373

                        #86
                        Holy sheet!!!

                        Didn't see that coming!!! This was not the Spanish team I've been watching!!! What happened??? They came alive!!! Dominated the ball!!! Have been holding my breath for 2 hours!!! Germany played a fantastic game!!! Wow wow wow!!! The talking heads are talking about the "maturity of the team" factor!!! And the Octopus was right again!!! (have run out of exclamation points)

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                        • microchips
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 147

                          #87
                          Originally posted by riverbabe View Post
                          Didn't see that coming!!! This was not the Spanish team I've been watching!!! What happened??? They came alive!!! Dominated the ball!!! Have been holding my breath for 2 hours!!! Germany played a fantastic game!!! Wow wow wow!!! The talking heads are talking about the "maturity of the team" factor!!! And the Octopus was right again!!! (have run out of exclamation points)
                          River,
                          ......Just wondering if they do them barrels in pairs!! one to wear and the other to shove in my gob!. If you didn't know Spain beat Germany in the European cup final in 2008 in Vienna that is why i said there could be an upset. That was one of the best games of the cup so far end to end football not a boring minute;the Spanish never let the Germans settle on the ball for long and that is why they won. My cap is on the floor and once again i am tugging my forelock fair maiden!..Who do you fancy for the final if i could not guess?? and if you fancy another wager ill go for the other team you don't pick. Might as well go for a treble; BP.L is up 6% again today so its a good job i bought plenty because the way things are going with wagers ill need them....LOL..

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                          • riverbabe
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2005
                            • 3373

                            #88
                            Originally posted by microchips View Post
                            River,
                            ......Just wondering if they do them barrels in pairs!! one to wear and the other to shove in my gob!. If you didn't know Spain beat Germany in the European cup final in 2008 in Vienna that is why i said there could be an upset. That was one of the best games of the cup so far end to end football not a boring minute;the Spanish never let the Germans settle on the ball for long and that is why they won. My cap is on the floor and once again i am tugging my forelock fair maiden!..Who do you fancy for the final if i could not guess?? and if you fancy another wager ill go for the other team you don't pick. Might as well go for a treble; BP.L is up 6% again today so its a good job i bought plenty because the way things are going with wagers ill need them....LOL..
                            Ya know? I have a very good friend from the Netherlands and there is absolutely nothing between us. No chemistry. But that's another story. And have not watched them play. So, if you decide you can afford another wager, hee, yeah I'll take Spain. Was most amazed by them today. Can't afford to be banned by Karel, the Netherlander, so no comments on the barrel. hee

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                            • microchips
                              Senior Member
                              • Jun 2009
                              • 147

                              #89
                              Originally posted by riverbabe View Post
                              Ya know? I have a very good friend from the Netherlands and there is absolutely nothing between us. No chemistry. But that's another story. And have not watched them play. So, if you decide you can afford another wager, hee, yeah I'll take Spain. Was most amazed by them today. Can't afford to be banned by Karel, the Netherlander, so no comments on the barrel. hee
                              River.
                              .......No chemistry!!! he isn't DORIS DAY is he?. The Dutch team play very similar to the Germans but with more flair and inventiveness so hopefully i can at least win 1 out of 3 so your on, come to think of it no matter what happens your still on top anyhow!!! just hope BP don't tank. Did you know that this will be Spain's first world cup final?.LOL..

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                              • microchips
                                Senior Member
                                • Jun 2009
                                • 147

                                #90
                                River,
                                .......You are now the proud owner of another 19 BP.L shares, the last lot were up 16.3% as of start of trading this morning 8/7. you now have a total of 42; the way they are going you will be able to go out next year and buy yourself a new frock!!

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