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  • Deaddog
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2010
    • 740

    #91
    Originally posted by skiracer View Post

    it is so important to understand yourself and what you want to accompolish and how to get to that goal. not many traders ever reach that point of discipline.
    I'm working on it
    It is hard to find the Truth when you start your search with a preconceived notion of what the Truth will be.

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    • Deaddog
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2010
      • 740

      #92
      This morning I bought AAPL and HAL

      AAPL @ 398.47; Stop @ 370.50.

      HAL @ 38.29 Stop @ 36.00

      AAPL keeps showing up on all my scans. I have been ignoring it because of the high price. (By high I mean I’m used to buying stocks valued from $5 to $100). So it finally sunk in; I don’t have to buy 100 shares. If I want I can buy 25 shares. So AAPL is now in the portfolio.

      HAL: Bottom Fishing here; Testing the lows again. Has all the fundies I look for. ROE over 20, Profit margin Over 10, reasonable debt load, and a PEG ratio under 1.
      It is hard to find the Truth when you start your search with a preconceived notion of what the Truth will be.

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      • riverbabe
        Senior Member
        • May 2005
        • 3373

        #93
        Originally posted by Deaddog View Post
        This morning I bought AAPL and HAL

        AAPL @ 398.47; Stop @ 370.50.

        HAL @ 38.29 Stop @ 36.00

        AAPL keeps showing up on all my scans. I have been ignoring it because of the high price. (By high I mean I’m used to buying stocks valued from $5 to $100). So it finally sunk in; I don’t have to buy 100 shares. If I want I can buy 25 shares. So AAPL is now in the portfolio.

        HAL: Bottom Fishing here; Testing the lows again. Has all the fundies I look for. ROE over 20, Profit margin Over 10, reasonable debt load, and a PEG ratio under 1.
        Congrats on AAPL! Here's a Seeking Alpha article on HAL, that you have probably seen. I'm concerned about the "punishment" re. Deepwater Horizons. Do you think it's built into the price or maybe a drop in the barrel compared to earnings, etc.? Ugly chart -- but bottom fishing may be good here.



        "Halliburton Company (HAL) was down a bit last Friday, as fallout from the Deepwater Horizon oil spill continues to affect this stock. Now it appears that the U.S. will punish the company for the oil spill, along with BP (BP) and Transocean (RIG). The problem for Halliburton is that it mixed the cement for the well in question. Regardless, analysts like Halliburton now because of the immense amount of products and services it provides during oil operations. This is especially important because of the one-stop shopping that oil companies do now. Its presence at the Bakken and the Eagle Ford is also duly noted here. On the other hand, Halliburton is certainly at risk if the U.S. goes into another recession. Even if it doesn’t, the company’s margins may not improve very much. Gross margin for the company is 19.11% and operating margin is 17.88%. This is pretty strong compared with companies like Baker Hughes (BHI), Schlumberger (SLB), and Technip (TKPPY.PK). As for measures like price to earnings, price to sales, and price/earnings to growth, Halliburton falls about in the middle of these other companies. Cash flow for Halliburton has been mixed: $684 million flowed out of the company during 2010, and $40 million flowed during the first half of 2011."

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        • Deaddog
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2010
          • 740

          #94
          Originally posted by riverbabe View Post
          Here's a Seeking Alpha article on HAL, that you have probably seen. I'm concerned about the "punishment" re. Deepwater Horizons. Do you think it's built into the price or maybe a drop in the barrel compared to earnings, etc.? Ugly chart -- but bottom fishing may be good here.
          RB:
          The way I see it any time we get to read a blurb about a stock it’s already priced in. I rarely look at the news. I’m basically a price action trader.

          HAL showed up on one of my fundamental scans and I thought that the price action warranted a shot. The sell off on high volume Aug 16 th to the 22nd and the recovery suggested a floor. It was tested again on high volume on Sept 14th. It didn’t make a new low and closed the day near the high again suggesting that there are interested buyers sitting at the $38 range. We’ll see how it plays out.

          It’s testing the lows again today and they seem to be holding. I’m prepared to fold my hand quickly if I’m wrong.
          It is hard to find the Truth when you start your search with a preconceived notion of what the Truth will be.

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          • Deaddog
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2010
            • 740

            #95
            ATML:
            Sold the rest today with a hard stop just above 10
            Average selling price ended up being $10.20 for an 18% gain.
            It is hard to find the Truth when you start your search with a preconceived notion of what the Truth will be.

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            • Deaddog
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2010
              • 740

              #96
              Looks like the new rule might take me out of the market:

              HAL closed below the stop as did ACAS and TC. EBIX is now below break even: NANO is getting close. Even AAPL printed a reversal bar.

              This portfolio could wind up tommorrow.

              HAL was especially ugly, down over 7% on huge volume.
              It is hard to find the Truth when you start your search with a preconceived notion of what the Truth will be.

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              • Deaddog
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2010
                • 740

                #97
                Almost all gone: Sold most everything this morning: Have hard stops in on EBIX and AAPL;

                Gotta go; so I'll see what the damage is this afternoon.

                PS EBIX sold as I was writing this.
                It is hard to find the Truth when you start your search with a preconceived notion of what the Truth will be.

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                • Deaddog
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 740

                  #98
                  AAPL sold on stop @ 399.46
                  A whopping gain of 1/4%

                  May have bailed too early but thought that break even wasn't too bad. Had other things to do so I set hard stop.

                  Now 100% in cash.
                  It is hard to find the Truth when you start your search with a preconceived notion of what the Truth will be.

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                  • skiracer
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2004
                    • 6314

                    #99
                    Originally posted by Deaddog View Post
                    AAPL sold on stop @ 399.46
                    A whopping gain of 1/4%

                    May have bailed too early but thought that break even wasn't too bad. Had other things to do so I set hard stop.

                    Now 100% in cash.
                    I think this is a great opportunity to pick up some shares of AAPL or some options on it.
                    THE SKIRACER'S EDGE: MAKE THE EDGE IN YOUR FAVOR

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                    • Deaddog
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 740



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                      It is hard to find the Truth when you start your search with a preconceived notion of what the Truth will be.

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                      • Deaddog
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 740

                        Originally posted by Deaddog View Post
                        This old dog is going to try and simplify Mr Market’s stock picking method.
                        It’s been almost a year since I started the Lazy Dog Portfolio. What I found was that picking stocks is simple; managing a portfolio is a lot more complicated. Now that I’m 100% cash; I reviewed my trades and the way I handled the portfolio. Here are some of the things that struck home.

                        What really matters is how much money you make at the end of the year.
                        It’s not how many winners you have in a row, or how huge an annualized return you calculate for an individual stock. Without the portfolio composition those numbers, although they look very impressive, are really meaningless.
                        “Financial genius is a rising stock market…Sir John Templeton”
                        The old Wall Street adage “Don’t confuse brains and a Bull Market” was reinforced. If the overall market is in an uptrend, the majority of the stocks will rise. If I can’t have positive returns when the market trends down or at least keep most of my money out of the market, I should be reviewing my risk management strategies.

                        Choosing stocks with excellent fundamentals seems like a no brainer but I’m not so sure it makes a lot of difference in a bull market. A portfolio of high momentum stocks, regardless of fundamentals, with a good risk management strategy would more than likely perform just as well. Fundies may be of some use in putting together a “Value Portfolio” where you are looking to buy undervalued stocks at a deep discount but with a momentum portfolio you are trading on hype. Again it comes down to risk management.

                        One thing that stands out is I had a number of stocks in my portfolio that had declined over 20%. 15 to 20% was my target so I was cutting my winners and holding my losers, not really a good thing. I have to come up with a better methodology to exit a position.

                        I’m not sure that having fixed stops or targets is the answer. One methodology that was suggested on another forum is to use the same criteria as you use to enter a position. Determine targets and stops when you enter the trade; when one or the other is hit; rerun your criteria as if you did not own the stock, if you would still buy the stock keep it: if not sell it.

                        All in all I found putting your picks and performance out on the internet has its good and bad points. I had trouble following my plan because I didn’t want to take a loss then have the stock come back. Fear of looking really dumb!!! On the plus side having to justify my decisions to someone else did help maintain discipline. Overall a positive learning experience.
                        It is hard to find the Truth when you start your search with a preconceived notion of what the Truth will be.

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                        • skiracer
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2004
                          • 6314

                          Originally posted by Deaddog View Post
                          It’s been almost a year since I started the Lazy Dog Portfolio. What I found was that picking stocks is simple; managing a portfolio is a lot more complicated. Now that I’m 100% cash; I reviewed my trades and the way I handled the portfolio. Here are some of the things that struck home.

                          What really matters is how much money you make at the end of the year.
                          It’s not how many winners you have in a row, or how huge an annualized return you calculate for an individual stock. Without the portfolio composition those numbers, although they look very impressive, are really meaningless.

                          The old Wall Street adage “Don’t confuse brains and a Bull Market” was reinforced. If the overall market is in an uptrend, the majority of the stocks will rise. If I can’t have positive returns when the market trends down or at least keep most of my money out of the market, I should be reviewing my risk management strategies.

                          Choosing stocks with excellent fundamentals seems like a no brainer but I’m not so sure it makes a lot of difference in a bull market. A portfolio of high momentum stocks, regardless of fundamentals, with a good risk management strategy would more than likely perform just as well. Fundies may be of some use in putting together a “Value Portfolio” where you are looking to buy undervalued stocks at a deep discount but with a momentum portfolio you are trading on hype. Again it comes down to risk management.

                          One thing that stands out is I had a number of stocks in my portfolio that had declined over 20%. 15 to 20% was my target so I was cutting my winners and holding my losers, not really a good thing. I have to come up with a better methodology to exit a position.

                          I’m not sure that having fixed stops or targets is the answer. One methodology that was suggested on another forum is to use the same criteria as you use to enter a position. Determine targets and stops when you enter the trade; when one or the other is hit; rerun your criteria as if you did not own the stock, if you would still buy the stock keep it: if not sell it.

                          All in all I found putting your picks and performance out on the internet has its good and bad points. I had trouble following my plan because I didn’t want to take a loss then have the stock come back. Fear of looking really dumb!!! On the plus side having to justify my decisions to someone else did help maintain discipline. Overall a positive learning experience.
                          having a plan beforehand is key. entry, exit or stop loss, and target or exit upon realization of pre-targetted gains is realized. this takes as much discipline and control as exiting at stop loss point. I think you are realizing and on to something that is going to become a significant factor in your trading. one other thing, dont give a shit about what others think of your trades. its your money to do with as you please. the only thing that counts is who lasts the longest, who ends up with the money, and if your pile is larger at the end of this year than at the beginning.
                          THE SKIRACER'S EDGE: MAKE THE EDGE IN YOUR FAVOR

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                          • Deaddog
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 740

                            I did a review of my trades keeping in mind what ski has mentioned.

                            I stopped out every trade that hit –7%.

                            It turns out that 4 of my winning trades would have been stopped out.

                            I also had 6 trades that were down over 7% that I finally took a loss on that would have been stopped out early.

                            The result of the exercise was that if I had taken the 7% stop; I would have been money ahead.

                            The data shows that out of the 25 trades I would have had 10 winners; 14 losers and one break-even trade (AAPL)

                            My Realized gain would have gone from 15.64% to 16.51%

                            Another interesting piece of info is that I held my winning positions for an average of 12 weeks. I held my losers for an average of 20 weeks. Since I have been following Mr. Market his record for winners is similar. Holding for an average of 12 weeks. Holding his losers has bought that average holding period for losers up to 32 weeks and climbing.

                            Here’s the thing that dawned on me. By not cutting my losers quickly I am losing the opportunity to find another winner.

                            Based on the 25-trade sample I have; it calculates out to earning 4¢ for every dollar I put in the market. Averaging the winning and losing trades; every time I make a $10,000 trade I earn $400. If I leave that capital tied up in non-performing or losing trades I’m losing the opportunity to earn that 4¢.

                            Another rule I shall add: Reassess every trade after 12 weeks. Does it still meet the criteria that I require to buy the stock? If not; goodbye!!
                            It is hard to find the Truth when you start your search with a preconceived notion of what the Truth will be.

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                            • skiracer
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2004
                              • 6314

                              Originally posted by Deaddog View Post
                              I did a review of my trades keeping in mind what ski has mentioned.

                              I stopped out every trade that hit –7%.

                              It turns out that 4 of my winning trades would have been stopped out.

                              I also had 6 trades that were down over 7% that I finally took a loss on that would have been stopped out early.

                              The result of the exercise was that if I had taken the 7% stop; I would have been money ahead.

                              The data shows that out of the 25 trades I would have had 10 winners; 14 losers and one break-even trade (AAPL)

                              My Realized gain would have gone from 15.64% to 16.51%

                              Another interesting piece of info is that I held my winning positions for an average of 12 weeks. I held my losers for an average of 20 weeks. Since I have been following Mr. Market his record for winners is similar. Holding for an average of 12 weeks. Holding his losers has bought that average holding period for losers up to 32 weeks and climbing.

                              Here’s the thing that dawned on me. By not cutting my losers quickly I am losing the opportunity to find another winner.

                              Based on the 25-trade sample I have; it calculates out to earning 4¢ for every dollar I put in the market. Averaging the winning and losing trades; every time I make a $10,000 trade I earn $400. If I leave that capital tied up in non-performing or losing trades I’m losing the opportunity to earn that 4¢.

                              Another rule I shall add: Reassess every trade after 12 weeks. Does it still meet the criteria that I require to buy the stock? If not; goodbye!!
                              When you exit a trade at 7% there is nothing that prevents you from a re-entry an hour later, 4 hrs. later, 1 day later, or a week later. the big thing is stopping the loss and preserving capital to last longer. You can always jump back into a play you have exited but holding on in "hope" is a losing proposition and only ties up capital that could be put into some other situation that will make you money or maybe lose another 7% perhaps. but the discipline and emotional control will pay off big time over the course of time.
                              THE SKIRACER'S EDGE: MAKE THE EDGE IN YOUR FAVOR

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                              • riverbabe
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2005
                                • 3373

                                More wisdom

                                Lazy Dog, I like your analysis! Congrats on the nice gain.

                                HERE IS SOME MORE WISDOM FROM MY FAVORITE GURU (not Gura, as in skiracer), Marty Chenard. Pay attention to what the big boys are doing...

                                "Today will be courtesy chart day where we share one of the charts from our paid subscriber site. We won't post it again until next month in fairness to our paid subscribers.

                                As you know, we continually try to stress the importance of what the Institutional Investors are doing. The reason is because they are responsible for over half of the market's volume, and if you go against what they are doing, you will be on the wrong side of the street.

                                One of the Institutional charts we post, show's the daily Buying and Selling activity of Institutions. Interpreting it is easy ... when there is more Buying than Selling, they are in Accumulation.

                                When they are in Accumulation, you should not be shorting the market, as you would be trying to beat an 800 pound gorilla.

                                The opposite is also true ... if the red Selling line is above (higher than) the Blue selling line, then Institutions are in Distribution and you should not go against them by going long in the market.

                                What is the bottom line today ... are they in Accumulation or Distribution? Please click the link below for the answer and today's chart."

                                Please click this link to go to the website with today's update:


                                Regards,
                                Marty Chenard

                                StockTiming.com
                                200 Freedom Trail
                                Morganton, NC 28655
                                >Tel: 828-296-1200<

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