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  • Phoenix7
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2011
    • 3663

    How is the economy really doing?

    Folks here is what's really happening to the Economy according to The Man On The Street!

    " The US recovery is a giant propaganda lie. Look, I'm not a professional trader, I'm a dentist. My patients range from steel mill, logging to winery owners, business owners etc. I can tell you that steel, logging and paper mills have cut jobs or closed (paper mill). No one has gotten better insurance, it's worse or unaffordable. The houses are being bought up by investors that turn them into rentals, thus skewing the housing data. Former patients that moved to ND to work in fracking are back and jobless. Stocks are up on buybacks and M&A which has almost exhausted itself. My dentist friends all over the country see the same. When McDonald's close restaurants...Do the REAL math. Recovery my ass. Brace yourselves."

    "This economy is far WORSE than is being reported by the FED.
    4.7% unemployed. They have changed the formula how that figure is derived.
    Half a million people dropped off the records because they gave up, no jobs to be found.
    If you used the old formula, the unemployment would probably be 15-20%.
    Thousands of jobs are being outsourced to other countries with cheaper labor rates.
    I cringe when I hear how strong the U.S. dollar is. The FED is propping it up
    along with the stock market.
    Banks are buying all the gold and silver they can get their hands on as they
    beat the prices down.
    Seems to me that is what you should be doing."

    "Have you every listened to those who know history; this cycle is not new.
    Your analysis seems very short sighted. You need to study what is going on in Asia with gold. Like it or not the rollercoaster will favor the BULLS. You need to read what older men are saying and where they are putting their money. It is not just gold fever it is the facts of what happens when fiat currencies have ran out of options to survive; they die! Survival always goes back to true units of wealth, gold and silver. Been that way for 6000 years!"

    "I would suggest that you view these 9 charts and then seriously re-evaluate your economic views. These 9 don't even include a Trillion in credit card debt, a Trillion in auto loans, a Trillion in student debt or the 225 Trillion in global debt. There is no "recovery" nor will there be...ever...it is impossible when peak debt has been reached. Enjoy...you are totally wrong...http://bit.ly/1TOYmdY"

    "I work in the paper/corrugated industry. can confirm we are slow and layoffs are imminent. also the McDonalds down the street was closed and demolished."
  • blindsquirrel
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2014
    • 286

    #2
    How is the economy? I think it is shifting. Middle class is shifting up and dropping out a whole lot of people into poverty. This shift will be reflected in food stamps going up, and home ownership going down. Two blue-collar parents do not equal a lower middle class family anymore. A lot of the time two white-collar parents don't either. I think this shift has been talked about a lot in recent years too, so I'm not really surprised. I doubt a crash is coming, just an economy where much more people are poor than we are used to seeing in America.
    Math doesn't lie, but people do.

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    • Phoenix7
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2011
      • 3663

      #3
      Originally posted by blindsquirrel View Post
      How is the economy? I think it is shifting. Middle class is shifting up and dropping out a whole lot of people into poverty. This shift will be reflected in food stamps going up, and home ownership going down. Two blue-collar parents do not equal a lower middle class family anymore. A lot of the time two white-collar parents don't either. I think this shift has been talked about a lot in recent years too, so I'm not really surprised. I doubt a crash is coming, just an economy where much more people are poor than we are used to seeing in America.
      Squirrel I agree with your analysis , and for sure this economy will at least be propped up until AFTER the election!

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      • mrmarket
        Administrator
        • Sep 2003
        • 5971

        #4
        As wonderful as capitalism is, the game won't end until one person has all of the money. It's no different from gravity and the money will flow towards money. Those that start without it are no better off than the person at the poker table with the lowest stakes....they may get lucky, but probably won't. The only way to stop the trend is braking from the government through taxes (inefficient and corrupt), more generosity from the wealthy (the best solution, but the least likely), or a revolution/civil war complete with violence and blood.

        Why extremely wealthy people need 100 million dollar art collections and 45 different houses is hard to fathom...but they do. Why they wouldn't get more satisfaction by donating their time or money to the local soup kitchen is harder for me to understand...but even more sad.
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        - $$$MR. MARKET$$$

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        • mimo_100
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2003
          • 1784

          #5
          From the Blackrock Blog

          Updated investment views for the second half
          Chief Investment Strategist Richard Turnill shares how to potentially position portfolios for the market and economic environment we see ahead for the remainder of 2016.

          Lower for longer rates and low returns. Monetary policy may have reached the limits of its effectiveness in driving asset prices. And expect volatility ahead. These are the key themes BlackRock portfolio managers and executives believe are likely to shape markets in the second half, as I shared in an earlier post on our new midyear outlook. Also on our radar for the remainder of 2016: Political uncertainty and weaker global growth.

          You may be wondering, however, what this outlook means for portfolios, especially in the wake of the United Kingdom’s Brexit vote. We have updated our investment views to reflect our expectations for the third and fourth quarters. Here’s a quick look at some of our key asset class views for the second half.

          BlackRock provides timely commentaries and special reports which discuss key events driving the financial markets.
          Tim - Retired Problem Solver

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          • Websman
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2004
            • 5545

            #6
            The economy sucks, but so do vacuum cleaners.

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            • Fateup
              Junior Member
              • Apr 2016
              • 18

              #7
              In my personal opinion and news around the globe, our economy has not been stable in terms economic policies, economic growth and the behavior prices and financial markets.

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