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  • Karel
    Administrator
    • Sep 2003
    • 2199

    #91
    No, I am not. It isn't good news after all. The stock may turn around, alright, but right now, I will hold. Selling would be an option too, as the pattern of growing earnings has been broken, but I'll hold.

    Regards,

    Karel
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    • mrmarket
      Administrator
      • Sep 2003
      • 5971

      #92
      Originally posted by Karel
      No, I am not. It isn't good news after all. The stock may turn around, alright, but right now, I will hold. Selling would be an option too, as the pattern of growing earnings has been broken, but I'll hold.

      Regards,

      Karel

      It will be interesting to see how the other Puerto Rican banks have fared as well as all of the S&L universe. If OFG, on its own, is demonstrating poor performance, then it might be time to take a hard look at this one. Certainly its failure to meet expectations, without any prior warning, is very peculiar.
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      • mrmarket
        Administrator
        • Sep 2003
        • 5971

        #93
        Reason to Hold

        It appears that every time OFG took a dip, it was able to rally and outperform the S&P 500....so I'm holding for now:



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        • jiesen
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2003
          • 5320

          #94
          I just bought some more (half of my original position) on this dip. We'll see how it turns out... but I think the market is severely overreacting to the drop in earnings. They will come back when the fed quits jacking up the rates.

          Besides, they are still earning money, not losing it, and a company can only earn so much before the stock price has to move back up to reflect it.

          OFG BV=330M, market cap=340
          Earnings are 60M/year. So maybe they drop to 50M or even 40M. In a year or two, we will see a 20-30% increase in BV! As long as they can get things in order by then, and there aren't any nasty surprises, we should do just fine.

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          • grebnet
            Moderated
            • Oct 2003
            • 389

            #95
            This statement worried me so I jumped ship... I think it is dead money for a while. There are plenty of beat up stocks for no reason to put money into while this flounders.

            "While the next several quarters are likely to continue to reflect this challenging rate environment, and thus earnings will continue to be lower than a year ago, we expect to remain profitable "

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            • mrmarket
              Administrator
              • Sep 2003
              • 5971

              #96
              Originally posted by grebnet
              This statement worried me so I jumped ship... I think it is dead money for a while. There are plenty of beat up stocks for no reason to put money into while this flounders.

              "While the next several quarters are likely to continue to reflect this challenging rate environment, and thus earnings will continue to be lower than a year ago, we expect to remain profitable "

              Like I said, it would be interesting to see how the other Puerto Rico banks are doing. OFG looks really really really cheap right now. Even if their earnings, are cut in half next year, its trailing PE will still be only 11 and if you buy now, you get a 4% dividend which is not "dead money".
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              • mrmarket
                Administrator
                • Sep 2003
                • 5971

                #97
                Nice bounce today on pretty good volume.
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                • jiesen
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 5320

                  #98
                  Originally posted by mrmarket
                  Nice bounce today on pretty good volume.
                  well a deal like 4% dividend from a bank with earnings as high as OFG's couldn't last very long, could it? buying OFG here is just too easy.

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                  • rickflyboy
                    Member
                    • Apr 2004
                    • 98

                    #99
                    Mr MM are you going to double down on OFG?

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                    • mrmarket
                      Administrator
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 5971

                      Originally posted by rickflyboy
                      Mr MM are you going to double down on OFG?
                      I don't double down as a matter of principle as it violates my diversification ideals.

                      If I had to double down on one of my losers, it would be on BEL.
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                      • Websman
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2004
                        • 5545

                        Originally posted by mrmarket
                        If I had to double down on one of my losers, it would be on BEL.
                        I'm not sure I would call OFG and BEL losers. I think a better term might be be "Future Winners".

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                        • jiesen
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 5320

                          OFG at 14? what a steal!

                          Earnest Partners just filed yesterday that they now own 10.1% of OFG. Not a bad time to pick up shares, I'm thinking.

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                          • jiesen
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 5320

                            OFG just changed its trajectory



                            I guess 13.6 was a buy signal for someone.

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                            • mrmarket
                              Administrator
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 5971

                              I'd be happier if they focused on making money...

                              Press Release Source: Oriental Financial Group


                              Oriental Financial Group Wins Stevie Award for Best TV Ad Campaign
                              Monday June 13, 12:20 pm ET


                              SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico--(BUSINESS WIRE)--June 13, 2005--Oriental Financial Group Inc. (NYSE: OFG - News) announced that it has won a 2005 American Business Awards "Stevie"(TM) for Best TV Ad Campaign for the Group's "Banking Solutions for Your Life" television spots.
                              The American Business Awards are the first all-encompassing business awards program honoring great performances in the workplace. Nicknamed the "Stevies" for the Greek word "crowned," the awards were presented during ceremonies at the Marriott Marquis Hotel in New York City.

                              Oriental's commercials were part of a TV, radio, Internet, print and collateral campaign broadening Oriental's brand image to encompass its complete array of banking and financial services for consumers, professionals and middle-market businesses in Puerto Rico. Heretofore, Oriental (which means Eastern in Spanish) has been primarily known for IRA investment products.

                              Edgardo Palerm, VP of Corporate Communications and Advertising at Oriental, in accepting the Stevie at last week's American Business Awards dinner, said, "We wanted to wake up everybody, and show them the sense of relief they can experience when they discover how Oriental can solve their problems and improve their lives through the banking solutions we provide."

                              The commercials feature scenes patterned after modern movie classics. In "Hole," which echoes the movie Holes (2003, starring Sigourney Weaver), a man lives in a hole in the front yard of his house - until Oriental helps finance an expansion to his home. In "Dreams," which features elements from Barton Fink (1991, starring John Turturro), an insomniac searches the Internet because he can't dream - until he discovers Orientalonline.com. In "Future," which recreates a scene from Brazil (1985, written and directed by Terry Gilliam), a professional worries about his bleak future - until Oriental helps him start his own business.

                              An article in American Banking Association's Bank Marketing magazine described the spots as "a distinctive series of brand TV commercials." EJE Sociedad Publicitaria, a Puerto Rico advertising agency, handled creative design, production and media buys.

                              More than 100 Stevies were presented in over 40 categories including Best Overall Company, Best Executive, Best Support Staffer, and Best Corporate Web Site. More than 1,200 nominations from companies of all sizes and in virtually every industry were submitted for consideration.
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                              • New-born baby
                                Senior Member
                                • Apr 2004
                                • 6095

                                Ofg

                                MM,
                                WHile you are cleaning out your entire portfolio, could you tell us if there is any good news with OFG?

                                And while you are at it, how about BEL? Looking better every day, don't you think?
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