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  • ninner
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2004
    • 524

    understandable

    for not posting charts and stuff ..my thoughts are with u and your family......i will go into what a kicker signal is when i get home tonite...im at work right now...very boring night.

    cheers

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    • ninner
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2004
      • 524

      Kicker Signal

      Originally posted by New-born baby View Post
      How do you get a signal to buy these bottom lurking stocks? Me, I am looking for a double bottom, an inverted head and shoulders, an ugly double bottom, or some such signal. What is a "kicker" signal?

      Because URBN has no double bottom, no inverted, etc, I wouldn't take a long here, but expect URBN to be making a bear flag.

      Teach me something
      A KICKER signal is the strongest of all the major candlestick signals. Its formed by 2 candles....the first candle opens and moves in the direction of the current trend and the second candle opens at eh same open of the previous day, a gap open and continues in the oppposite direction of the previous days candle.however, if the next days price gaps back the other way...get out of the trade.....

      so the criteria
      1. the first days open and the second days open are the same or gaps beyond the previous open...the price movment is in the opposite direction from the opening price
      2. the trend has no relevance in a kicker signal
      3. the price never retraces into the previous days trading range.

      signal enhancements
      1. the longer the candles the more dramatic the price reversal
      2. opening from yesterdays close to yesterdays open already is a gap....additionally gapping away from the previous days open further enhances the reversal.

      of course...a kicker in a overbought or a oversold area can mean different things.

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      • Originally posted by ninner View Post
        A KICKER signal is the strongest of all the major candlestick signals. Its formed by 2 candles....the first candle opens and moves in the direction of the current trend and the second candle opens at eh same open of the previous day, a gap open and continues in the oppposite direction of the previous days candle.however, if the next days price gaps back the other way...get out of the trade.....

        so the criteria
        1. the first days open and the second days open are the same or gaps beyond the previous open...the price movment is in the opposite direction from the opening price
        2. the trend has no relevance in a kicker signal
        3. the price never retraces into the previous days trading range.
        Do you not consider the opens to be part of the daily range? For example:

        Yesterday's open = 10, yesterday's high = 11, yesterday's low = 10, yesterday's close = 11.

        Today's open = 10, yesterday's high = 10, yesterday's low = 9, yesterday's close = 9.

        How can today's range never retrace into yesterday's range if the opens are the same? Unless you mean that the opens do not constitute part of the daily range...in which case, you described a Separating Lines candlestick pattern.

        If the open is part of the daily range, the only way it can work is if today gaps open higher (or lower); today's day's range is opposite the direction of the open; and the low (high) never enters yesterday's range. In an uptrend, you just described a Shooting Star candlestick.

        By your own definition, URBN was not a "kicker." On Thursday it gapped open higher and closed much higher; price movement was in the same direction as the opening price.

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        • Originally posted by ParkTwain View Post
          NBB, have you heard of these 900 y.o. churches?
          But are they a Hot Pick of the Day? <VBG>

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          • You think it's not hot in Ethiopia?

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            • New-born baby
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2004
              • 6095

              INCREDIBLE! And I am glad I don't do that for a living Talk about labor intensive!
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              • ninner
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2004
                • 524

                read #1

                for criteria and u will understand and urbn is a kicker...

                cheers

                Originally posted by DSteckler View Post
                Do you not consider the opens to be part of the daily range? For example:

                Yesterday's open = 10, yesterday's high = 11, yesterday's low = 10, yesterday's close = 11.

                Today's open = 10, yesterday's high = 10, yesterday's low = 9, yesterday's close = 9.

                How can today's range never retrace into yesterday's range if the opens are the same? Unless you mean that the opens do not constitute part of the daily range...in which case, you described a Separating Lines candlestick pattern.

                If the open is part of the daily range, the only way it can work is if today gaps open higher (or lower); today's day's range is opposite the direction of the open; and the low (high) never enters yesterday's range. In an uptrend, you just described a Shooting Star candlestick.

                By your own definition, URBN was not a "kicker." On Thursday it gapped open higher and closed much higher; price movement was in the same direction as the opening price.

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                • ninner
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2004
                  • 524

                  kicker

                  doesnt have to open the same as the previous price that is just is just minimal requirements...its better if it opens higher as i believe it states in signal enhancements. Not sure why u included yesterdays low, high, close in a trading range with the previous days but oh well
                  Originally posted by DSteckler View Post
                  Do you not consider the opens to be part of the daily range? For example:

                  Yesterday's open = 10, yesterday's high = 11, yesterday's low = 10, yesterday's close = 11.

                  Today's open = 10, yesterday's high = 10, yesterday's low = 9, yesterday's close = 9.

                  How can today's range never retrace into yesterday's range if the opens are the same? Unless you mean that the opens do not constitute part of the daily range...in which case, you described a Separating Lines candlestick pattern.

                  If the open is part of the daily range, the only way it can work is if today gaps open higher (or lower); today's day's range is opposite the direction of the open; and the low (high) never enters yesterday's range. In an uptrend, you just described a Shooting Star candlestick.

                  By your own definition, URBN was not a "kicker." On Thursday it gapped open higher and closed much higher; price movement was in the same direction as the opening price.

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                  • New-born baby
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2004
                    • 6095

                    Originally posted by ninner View Post
                    for not posting charts and stuff ..my thoughts are with u and your family......i will go into what a kicker signal is when i get home tonite...im at work right now...very boring night.

                    cheers

                    Ninner, Thanks for the info. Now what do you do for "work?"
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                    • New-born baby
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2004
                      • 6095

                      Thanks!

                      Thanks to everyone who prayed and expressed concern for my father in law. It looks like he's going to make it, although it was very close on Friday night late. They had to open him up a second time. Right now he is just one huge bruise, as they did do a six way bypass. But it is better than the alternative.
                      Thanks and God bless all the MM forumites
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                      • IIC
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2003
                        • 14938

                        Glad to hear it NBB...My father went in for a routine checkup back about 5 years ago...The tests they did came out OK...At the end the Dr. asked my Dad if he had any other concerns...He mentioned that he seemed to be short of breath sometimes...So they ran some other tests...

                        A couple days later they tried some stents(???)...didn't work...So my Dad had to have quintuple bypass a couple days later...He wanted to wait a few weeks because my sister and I had given them a 15 day cruise for their 50th and they were scheduled to leave...Drs. told him he was a time bomb for a heart attack and he couldn't wait. Fortunately we had bot the travel insurance...

                        Anyway, he had the surgery and all went well...So they went on the cruise the next year...Best to you and your family...Doug
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                        • ninner
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2004
                          • 524

                          Originally posted by New-born baby View Post
                          Ninner, Thanks for the info. Now what do you do for "work?"
                          i work for the fire department as a fireman!!!

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                          • New-born baby
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2004
                            • 6095

                            Originally posted by ninner View Post
                            i work for the fire department as a fireman!!!
                            Then boredom for you is actually good for the community! And it gives you time to study the markets, too Nice combination!
                            pivot calculator *current oil price*My stock picking method*Charting Lesson of the Week:BEAR FLAG PATTERN

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                            • New-born baby
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2004
                              • 6095

                              Originally posted by IIC View Post
                              Glad to hear it NBB...My father went in for a routine checkup back about 5 years ago...The tests they did came out OK...At the end the Dr. asked my Dad if he had any other concerns...He mentioned that he seemed to be short of breath sometimes...So they ran some other tests...

                              A couple days later they tried some stents(???)...didn't work...So my Dad had to have quintuple bypass a couple days later...He wanted to wait a few weeks because my sister and I had given them a 15 day cruise for their 50th and they were scheduled to leave...Drs. told him he was a time bomb for a heart attack and he couldn't wait. Fortunately we had bot the travel insurance...

                              Anyway, he had the surgery and all went well...So they went on the cruise the next year...Best to you and your family...Doug

                              Congrats to you and your father on the successful surgery. Lots of folks have benefitted from the heart technology that has been developed. May the Lord grant your father many happy years.
                              pivot calculator *current oil price*My stock picking method*Charting Lesson of the Week:BEAR FLAG PATTERN

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