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  • skiracer
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2004
    • 6314

    This is a prime example of a lesson in adhering to your disciplines. VTIV averaged in at 19.88 on 2000 shares. 7% loss exit at 18.49. I haven't set a stop at this point but am watching the trade an if it hits 18.49/18.45 range it's sayonara baby with a 1.49 point loss on the trade and the 2000 shares. That's - $3000 on the trade which if it goes that way is going to knock out alot of some recent gains on other recent trades that went the right way. It sucks and feels like shit but consider that it is better at this point than wishing and hoping that it rebounds only to watch it drop further for a bigger loss. The only consolitation is to stop the bleeding now early enough and to preserve capital to catch it sometime later on when it does rebound or to enter other trades which hopefully will work out better.
    It seems like alot of money an it is a decent amount but it's all just proportional to the amount that you're working with. The whole idea is to give your trade room to breathe within your particular tolerances so you gave it a chance to do what you thought it might do. When it doesn't then the point to preserve capital becomes the primary objective.
    I'm working with a decent amount of capital in this trading account. The $3000 loss is not much of a dent in the total pile but don't think that it doesn't hurt just as bad to take a hit like this if it does go to the 7% loss point an I bail out. It takes a whole lot of will power to walk away from it when your emotions are screaming to hold it awhile longer in the hope it will recoup. They very seldom do in these situations and the loss only increases in size and you're left telling yourself that you knew this was going to happen and why did you let it which increases the frustration and confusion level. In this activity that is the last thing you need to happen to your mental processes. Much better to stick to your plan and take the loss to live to play another day.

    In the meantime it's at 18.54 and getting down to the wire. I'm sitting here in my office watching the screen and the stock dive and thinking you have to be masochistic to even think about trading these markets.
    THE SKIRACER'S EDGE: MAKE THE EDGE IN YOUR FAVOR

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    • Ski, I see the largest bid @ 18.39 right now

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      • skiracer
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2004
        • 6314

        Runner,
        I'm out at 18.48, 18.46, an 18.45. Nice hit and a beautiful start to the weekend. Wiped out several nice gains over the last couple of weeks.
        Take me off the grill I think I'm well done on both sides after this week.
        THE SKIRACER'S EDGE: MAKE THE EDGE IN YOUR FAVOR

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        • Websman
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2004
          • 5545

          Originally posted by skiracer
          Runner,
          I'm out at 18.48, 18.46, an 18.45. Nice hit and a beautiful start to the weekend. Wiped out several nice gains over the last couple of weeks.
          Take me off the grill I think I'm well done on both sides after this week.
          That makes two of us.

          I'll forget all about it, once I get out on the water this weekend.

          Webs...

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          • skiracer
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2004
            • 6314

            It's only money. I'm 60 years old an am in primo physical condition and health. Could write a book about crap I've been through but none of it measures up to good health and family. I've been blessed with all of that and more. Like you said none of it will matter once you're out on the water. Great attitude Webs.
            PS, I'm coming in for the ears transplant. One other point. MM site is far and away much more fun than the other one.
            Last edited by skiracer; 06-03-2005, 04:56 PM.
            THE SKIRACER'S EDGE: MAKE THE EDGE IN YOUR FAVOR

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            • skiracer
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2004
              • 6314

              This is just one of the things that subscribing to Briefing.com's platimum service provides for you. Got this early this am and was ready for the premarket before it even opened with a buy order. Turned into a decent play on the breaking news about the earnings report. Look at the time of the newswire. 6:25 am.

              THE SKIRACER'S EDGE: MAKE THE EDGE IN YOUR FAVOR

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              • New-born baby
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2004
                • 6095

                Vtiv

                Originally posted by skiracer
                It's only money. I'm 60 years old an am in primo physical condition and health. Could write a book about crap I've been through but none of it measures up to good health and family. I've been blessed with all of that and more. Like you said none of it will matter once you're out on the water. Great attitude Webs.
                PS, I'm coming in for the ears transplant. One other point. MM site is far and away much more fun than the other one.
                Ski,

                You holding any VTIV? I haven't watched it for two weeks until today, and saw it right at $18. What's the news?

                Briefing.com did you well, didn't it?
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                • skiracer
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2004
                  • 6314

                  Originally posted by skiracer
                  This is a prime example of a lesson in adhering to your disciplines. VTIV averaged in at 19.88 on 2000 shares. 7% loss exit at 18.49. I haven't set a stop at this point but am watching the trade an if it hits 18.49/18.45 range it's sayonara baby with a 1.49 point loss on the trade and the 2000 shares. That's - $3000 on the trade which if it goes that way is going to knock out alot of some recent gains on other recent trades that went the right way. It sucks and feels like shit but consider that it is better at this point than wishing and hoping that it rebounds only to watch it drop further for a bigger loss. The only consolitation is to stop the bleeding now early enough and to preserve capital to catch it sometime later on when it does rebound or to enter other trades which hopefully will work out better.
                  It seems like alot of money an it is a decent amount but it's all just proportional to the amount that you're working with. The whole idea is to give your trade room to breathe within your particular tolerances so you gave it a chance to do what you thought it might do. When it doesn't then the point to preserve capital becomes the primary objective.
                  I'm working with a decent amount of capital in this trading account. The $3000 loss is not much of a dent in the total pile but don't think that it doesn't hurt just as bad to take a hit like this if it does go to the 7% loss point an I bail out. It takes a whole lot of will power to walk away from it when your emotions are screaming to hold it awhile longer in the hope it will recoup. They very seldom do in these situations and the loss only increases in size and you're left telling yourself that you knew this was going to happen and why did you let it which increases the frustration and confusion level. In this activity that is the last thing you need to happen to your mental processes. Much better to stick to your plan and take the loss to live to play another day.

                  In the meantime it's at 18.54 and getting down to the wire. I'm sitting here in my office watching the screen and the stock dive and thinking you have to be masochistic to even think about trading these markets.
                  New-Born,
                  Took a nice hit on VTIV last week. Ended up exiting at 18.46 average for a 1.42 loss on the position. Made most of it back with an intraday trade on HTRN Monday and with CMTL today.
                  When I saw tidbit come across the wires this morning I immediately put a buy order in for the premarket and was filled at 36.40 range. Only a half position. Ended up exiting the trade at just under 39. So the VTIV fiasco is just about washed out with those two trades. Just luck with HTRN and the big spike up on Monday. Sold it over 14 and re-entered again in the pm at 13.12.

                  I love VTIV. I have traded it a number of times with good success so the stock doesn't owe me anything. I don't know what is going on with it at the present but I'm watching it closely for a bottoming out an another shot at it on the next bounce up. It looks pretty cheap to me right now. Fundamentally I don't see anything wrong with it and there hasn't been any bad news across the wires.

                  I can't really tell you how much of an edge Briefing.com's newswire affords me with the up to the minute realtime streaming breaking news all daylong. Plus all their other stuff that comes with the subscription. $24.95 per month. I made over $1000 on the trade today with CMTL and bought it just on the early morning news of it reporting .08 above consensus with it's earnings release this morning. Kind of pays for itself wouldn't you agree. I see so much of that type of breaking news everyday coming across their newswire.

                  Does VTIV look cheap to you at this range?
                  THE SKIRACER'S EDGE: MAKE THE EDGE IN YOUR FAVOR

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                  • jiesen
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 5320

                    Originally posted by skiracer
                    New-Born,
                    Took a nice hit on VTIV last week. Ended up exiting at 18.46 average for a 1.42 loss on the position. Made most of it back with an intraday trade on HTRN Monday and with CMTL today.
                    When I saw tidbit come across the wires this morning I immediately put a buy order in for the premarket and was filled at 36.40 range. Only a half position. Ended up exiting the trade at just under 39. So the VTIV fiasco is just about washed out with those two trades. Just luck with HTRN and the big spike up on Monday. Sold it over 14 and re-entered again in the pm at 13.12.

                    I love VTIV. I have traded it a number of times with good success so the stock doesn't owe me anything. I don't know what is going on with it at the present but I'm watching it closely for a bottoming out an another shot at it on the next bounce up. It looks pretty cheap to me right now. Fundamentally I don't see anything wrong with it and there hasn't been any bad news across the wires.

                    I can't really tell you how much of an edge Briefing.com's newswire affords me with the up to the minute realtime streaming breaking news all daylong. Plus all their other stuff that comes with the subscription. $24.95 per month. I made over $1000 on the trade today with CMTL and bought it just on the early morning news of it reporting .08 above consensus with it's earnings release this morning. Kind of pays for itself wouldn't you agree. I see so much of that type of breaking news everyday coming across their newswire.

                    Does VTIV look cheap to you at this range?
                    it does to me. not quite cheap enough that I'd buy it though. If I were looking for another health care industry stock, I would consider it... CGTK is at the top of my list though right now, in that category.

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                      • New-born baby
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2004
                        • 6095

                        Not quite Junk enough

                        Originally posted by jiesen
                        it does to me. not quite cheap enough that I'd buy it though. If I were looking for another health care industry stock, I would consider it... CGTK is at the top of my list though right now, in that category.
                        Let me know when this one goes to a complete pile of junk. I'll jump in there with you, Jiesen!

                        Chart Runner posted says bottom is $17, although I think I posted about three weeks ago she's headed lower. . . .
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                        • skiracer
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2004
                          • 6314

                          I'm keeping a close eye on it now with it breaking below 18. I would be surprised to see it go below 17 from this point but stranger things have happenned. That would be a real bargain to me below 17 but I don't think we'll see it go that low.
                          Past history shows it dropping and then strong bounces to previous levels. This is one of those stocks that you will have to be there watching the intraday action to catch it when it starts another move up. When it does it is usually with a strong decisive move up for a couple of days. I thought that at this level it is starting to look cheap, but I don't want to buy and hold on waiting for it to go off. I want to see the move begin at the open or on some news an embrace the move.
                          THE SKIRACER'S EDGE: MAKE THE EDGE IN YOUR FAVOR

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                          • Newborn, I plotted fist wave target off the 26.70 high @ 18.65. Wave potential I come up with is 13.67. Of course we all know how targets can be missed. I do like the Doji that has formed on the weekly chart!!
                            Last edited by Guest; 06-08-2005, 10:51 PM.

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                            • skiracer
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2004
                              • 6314

                              If it goes to 13.67 I'll be buying a load of it and sitting on it until it presents a couple of points gain.
                              Can't imagine it going that low. I saw the same candle (doji) on the weekly and liked it myself. I think it will bounce pretty soon and be ready for it and don't procrastinate!!
                              THE SKIRACER'S EDGE: MAKE THE EDGE IN YOUR FAVOR

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                              • mystiky
                                Senior Member
                                • Dec 2004
                                • 333

                                SMH looking like flase breakout?

                                I have a feeling that SMH did a double-top today with a "fake" breakout.
                                Seems to me like its due for a correction.

                                Any comments?

                                P.S. I am hooding June $35 puts as of todays close

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