Louetta's Lore

[skiracer]

ha ha! Ski used 'icky'! lol lol lol

uh, oh... now I've used it...

I feel so uh, Icky, from just using that word.

[Louetta]

I feel so uh, Icky, from just using that word.

Don't we have fun on this thread, learning about words and stuff? Night night. Boys probably can't say that either.

[IIC]

You may very well be right. But. If you are, I mean when do they leave for Guatemala? Isn't every day they stay in this country leading them closer to the slammer? If they are out and out lying why hang around and wait to be found out?

Why did Wesley Snipes try to ripoff the IRS for million$...I don't know???

http://www.forbes.com/business/feeds/ap/2006/10/17/ap3098256.html

Some people think they are bigger than God...But then again...We only hear about the ones who get caught...Doug


EDIT:...But then again they could pull a FAST ONE and die before their appeals...LOL

[IIC]

Don't we have fun on this thread, learning about words and stuff? Night night. Boys probably can't say that either.

I use the term "Okie Dokie" all the time...Does that mean I'm gay???

[jiesen]

Why did Wesley Snipes try to ripoff the IRS for million$...I don't know???

http://www.forbes.com/business/feeds/ap/2006/10/17/ap3098256.html

Some people think they are bigger than God...But then again...We only hear about the ones who get caught...Doug


EDIT:...But then again they could pull a FAST ONE and die before their appeals...LOL

everyone knows enron kenny is alive and well somewhere in the Bahamas right now...

[jiesen]

ken lay

...and he's probably shorting OSTK, too.

[IIC]

everyone knows enron kenny is alive and well somewhere in the Bahamas right now...

I can't argue with you...I have no evidence to the contrary...Although, I'd think that some country w/o an extradition treaty might be a better bet...I heard Angola is nice this time of year...Nighty Night

[Louetta]

Why did Wesley Snipes try to ripoff the IRS for million$...I don't know???

http://www.forbes.com/business/feeds/ap/2006/10/17/ap3098256.html

Some people think they are bigger than God...But then again...We only hear about the ones who get caught...Doug


EDIT:...But then again they could pull a FAST ONE and die before their appeals...LOL

Actually he died before he was sentenced. Thereby saving his heirs whatever money he might have been fined if he had been sentenced.

[Louetta]

Actually he died before he was sentenced. Thereby saving his heirs whatever money he might have been fined if he had been sentenced.

Well maybe its more complicated than that. I guess the ruling is he hadn't exhausted his appeals but even if he had if he hadn't been sentenced I don't see how the government could have collected anything.

[Rob]

Actually he died before he was sentenced. Thereby saving his heirs whatever money he might have been fined if he had been sentenced.

I didn’t follow the story closely. Are those the facts of the case? If so there is something dreadfully wrong with this picture. “Yes, Mrs. Jones, Mr. Lay did steal your retirement money, all $1.3 million of it. But you see, he’s dead now, so his widow gets to keep your money, and I'm afraid you and yours are just going to have to go and pound salt.”

[Louetta]

I didn’t follow the story closely. Are those the facts of the case? If so there is something dreadfully wrong with this picture. “Yes, Mrs. Jones, Mr. Lay did steal your retirement money, all $1.3 million of it. But you see, he’s dead now, so his widow gets to keep your money, and I'm afraid you and yours are just going to have to go and pound salt.”

Well they're arguing about it. At firts I heard that since he wasn't sentenced then the government had no right to take x dollars of his money because only a judge, or at least a finder of fact, could do that. Now I see his conviction has been vacated by a judge because he hadn't had a chance to exhaust his appeals which apparently is in accordance with federal court rulings. The government is apparently arguing that under proposed legislation they could take some of his money but I wouldn't thing you could go back like that. I would think one could file a civil suit against his estate. Hmmmm...

[IIC]

I would think one could file a civil suit against his estate. Hmmmm...

Hopefully they will...but it would be a class action...so who besides the lawyers gets much?

Anyway...it is all a bunch of BS IMO

[Louetta]

Still another icky day for HSOA.

[skiracer]

Still another icky day for HSOA.

Very icky. I would look at an entry if it breaks 5 and goes to that last low around 4.68 or lower.

[ParkTwain]

Well they're arguing about it. At firts I heard that since he wasn't sentenced then the government had no right to take x dollars of his money because only a judge, or at least a finder of fact, could do that. Now I see his conviction has been vacated by a judge because he hadn't had a chance to exhaust his appeals which apparently is in accordance with federal court rulings. The government is apparently arguing that under proposed legislation they could take some of his money but I wouldn't thing you could go back like that. I would think one could file a civil suit against his estate. Hmmmm...

I am also one who is very sceptical about how Kenny Boy went out. Yes, his estate gets to keep a few more millions, at least for a while till the civil suits go through, and there will be some of those.

Want to induce a heart attack that probably won't be investigated? The drug to use is succinylcholine. Read about this case in Vegas:

http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2006/Oct-18-Wed-2006/news/10296952.html

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Shortly after state Controller Kathy Augustine died in July, police found in her home an unopened bottle of a drug used almost exclusively by medical professionals, and the drug has links to the poison that police say was used to kill the politician.

According to court records obtained by the Review-Journal and an interview with a Reno police official Tuesday, detectives found an unopened bottle of Etomidate in the home of Augustine and her husband, critical care nurse Chaz Higgs, 42, the day after Augustine died.

Etomidate is usually found only in hospitals, ambulances or pharmacies. It is occasionally used on patients in conjunction with the use of the drug succinylcholine, which authorities allege Higgs used to kill Augustine.

Reno police Lt. Jon Catalano said detectives are trying to determine why the drug would have been at the Augustine residence.

"At face value, the fact that he (Higgs) did have it shows he ... was taking what we believe to be controlled substances home from the hospitals," Catalano said.

Higgs' attorneys, Alan Baum and David Houston, did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

Famed medical examiner Cyril Wecht of Pennsylvania and two board-certified anesthesiologists said Etomidate is not a drug you would expect to find in someone's home.

In fact, it would be unusual to find the drug outside of a medical setting.

"What is it doing there?" Wecht said. "It's not something you use to keep away insects or polish your nails. It has a very, very specific purpose, so what the hell is it doing there?"

Drs. Edson O. Parker and Anthony Frasca, both anesthesiologists, said Etomidate is a hypnotic drug used to put a patient to sleep. It is also occasionally used by medical professionals in the process of inserting a breathing tube into a patient -- a technique that also is known to involve the use of succinylcholine.

To carry out such a procedure, a patient would be injected with Etomidate or a similar drug, leaving them unconscious. Then, the patient would be given the succinylcholine, which paralyzes the muscles of the body and allows for the insertion of the breathing tube.

Frasca said the presence of Etomidate in a nurse's home is "a little strange."

He also said injecting someone with succinylcholine is recognized as a heinous way to kill, because a victim would be conscious but paralyzed and unable to do anything to seek help.

But if someone intent on killing a victim with succinylcholine were to inject an individual with Etomidate first, the victim would be unconscious, meaning that person would suffer less.

"To kill someone with succinylcholine -- it is particularly cruel," Frasca said. "It could be someone was intending to use Etomidate to lower the cruelty factor or to supplement the succinylcholine."

Wecht said Etomidate could be used by a killer to make sure a victim would be completely unable to resist an attack with succinylcholine.

"They are not conscious. There is no awareness of the adverse affects of the succinylcholine, so there would then be no likelihood of them calling attention to themselves by movement or verbalizing," Wecht said.

Catalano said Etomidate was not detected in Augustine's system after death, and there was no evidence the bottle of Etomidate found in the couple's home had ever been opened.

"We are in the process of trying to determine what the parameters are on this substance and also what it does," Catalano said.

Authorities said that prior to Augustine's death, Higgs talked to a co-worker about his belief that succinylcholine was an ideal murder weapon because it was virtually undetectable in the human body.

Police said shortly after he made those comments, he told police and paramedics he found Augustine unconscious in their home. Higgs told them he figured she had a heart attack, although an autopsy showed no evidence of heart disease.

A needle mark was found on Augustine's buttock during autopsy. A toxicology test performed by the FBI subsequently detected the presence of succinylcholine in Augustine's urine.

When police eventually arrested Higgs in Virginia, they found literature on succinylcholine in his car.

The fact that the drug was at the center of the police investigation had not been made public at the time, Catalano said.

"We'd never released anything about succinylcholine prior to him being handcuffed," Catalano said. "We released nothing."

Higgs has denied any wrongdoing.

Authorities in Clark County are now trying to determine if Higgs could have had anything to do with the death of Kathy Augustine's third husband, Charles. Charles Augustine died in 2003 while under the care of Higgs at Sunrise Hospital and Medical Center.

It was believed at the time that Charles Augustine died of complications from a stroke. No autopsy was performed.

Three weeks after Charles Augustine's death, Higgs married Kathy Augustine in Hawaii.

Last week, the county coroner's office exhumed Charles Augustine's body from an east Las Vegas grave. Toxicology tests on his remains are pending.
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