A Humble Request

[IIC]

In response to this, Louetta said, "Maybe we should get back to my grad work. Actually I spent several hours reading about how to meditate better, my sessions lately have been very sloppy. So is my backstroke for that matter, though my eligibility is gone so it doesn't really matter. And I missed this rally. Hmm."

I respectfully disagree. In other forums I belong to, this is called "hijacking." When you want to talk about something completely different than what the person who started the thread wants to talk about, it's better to create a new thread than it is to hijack the topic of the original thread.

Mary

You might be right Mary...But I don't see Rob posting anymore about this....How about some examples.

Here's my take...I like Rob...I think he's a great guy...But I also think he's being hyper-sensitive.

I do not think profanity is a problem at this forum. I moderate some small forums and I used to moderate the Yahoo Canslim StockPicks Forum that had over 2,000 members. There were certain words that I would not and do not tolerate. There are other words that may be offensive to some but that I do/did tolerate because they are words that many people use in everyday life....For those that used the words on my ban list I would send 2 warnings before I took action...At Yahho CSSP I was the judge and jury for several years...Right or Wrong.

One thing I did not tolerate was newcomer spam and posts that were derogatory towards sex, religion or race...Instant banishment.

So here we have Rob making a request. He has the right to do so...But he is not in charge here. I'm not either. He needs to direct his complaints to the people that are in charge IMO.

Personally, I do not think colorful language is a problem at this forum...But he is entitled to his own opinion. However, he has a choice...I'm sorry that he takes it so hard...But if he thinks the language at this forum is out of line then he has to make his own decision as to whether he wants to stick around. I hope he does stick around...But that's his decision...Not mine....Doug(IIC)

[Louetta]

You might be right Mary...But I don't see Rob posting anymore about this....How about some examples.

Here's my take...I like Rob...I think he's a great guy...But I also think he's being hyper-sensitive.

I do not think profanity is a problem at this forum. I moderate some small forums and I used to moderate the Yahoo Canslim StockPicks Forum that had over 2,000 members. There were certain words that I would not and do not tolerate. There are other words that may be offensive to some but that I do/did tolerate because they are words that many people use in everyday life....For those that used the words on my ban list I would send 2 warnings before I took action...At Yahho CSSP I was the judge and jury for several years...Right or Wrong.

One thing I did not tolerate was newcomer spam and posts that were derogatory towards sex, religion or race...Instant banishment.

So here we have Rob making a request. He has the right to do so...But he is not in charge here. I'm not either. He needs to direct his complaints to the people that are in charge IMO.

Personally, I do not think colorful language is a problem at this forum...But he is entitled to his own opinion. However, he has a choice...I'm sorry that he takes it so hard...But if he thinks the language at this forum is out of line then he has to make his own decision as to whether he wants to stick around. I hope he does stick around...But that's his decision...Not mine....Doug(IIC)

You are talking to the 100th guy. You're supposed to ignore him.

[IIC]

We don't have greeks here so there are less parties than you might think. We had all you could eat too plus free bras after freshman year which was nice.

Hey...I gotta a lot of FREE stuff...But never a FREE bra.

BTW...Did I read some of your posts right?...Did you actually get a scholarship for swimming? I thought Ivy League schools didn't give sports scholarships???

The reason I say that is because I had received a letter from Dartmouth in HS...As I recall they said they didn't offer sports scholarships but I could apply for financial aid. Well, in those days (1971) I wouldn't have qualified for financial aid...And with my grades/SAT I wouldn't have qualified to get in anyway (I was Captain of the Varsity Ditching Team in HS...lol)

[IIC]

You are talking to the 100th guy. You're supposed to ignore him.

What does that mean??????

[Louetta]

What does that mean??????

When the last guy posted the swear in capital letters I posted that if I was in a class with 100 guys there was always one who tried to be obnoxious to get attention and you should ignore that person.

[IIC]

When the last guy posted the swear in capital letters I posted that if I was in a class with 100 guys there was always one who tried to be obnoxious to get attention and you should ignore that person.

Oh yeah...Now I remember...Hey...I thought you were watching the game

[Louetta]

Oh yeah...Now I remember...Hey...I thought you were watching the game

I turn it on every so often. Have stuff to read. We had a shot at 31-7 but just fumbled on the 6. The real test will be against Chicago I think in two weeks.

[Mary]

Hyper-Sensitive ... or not?

You might be right Mary...But I don't see Rob posting anymore about this....How about some examples.

Here's my take...I like Rob...I think he's a great guy...But I also think he's being hyper-sensitive.

I do not think profanity is a problem at this forum. I moderate some small forums and I used to moderate the Yahoo Canslim StockPicks Forum that had over 2,000 members. There were certain words that I would not and do not tolerate. There are other words that may be offensive to some but that I do/did tolerate because they are words that many people use in everyday life....For those that used the words on my ban list I would send 2 warnings before I took action...At Yahho CSSP I was the judge and jury for several years...Right or Wrong.

One thing I did not tolerate was newcomer spam and posts that were derogatory towards sex, religion or race...Instant banishment.

So here we have Rob making a request. He has the right to do so...But he is not in charge here. I'm not either. He needs to direct his complaints to the people that are in charge IMO.

Personally, I do not think colorful language is a problem at this forum...But he is entitled to his own opinion. However, he has a choice...I'm sorry that he takes it so hard...But if he thinks the language at this forum is out of line then he has to make his own decision as to whether he wants to stick around. I hope he does stick around...But that's his decision...Not mine....Doug(IIC)

When Rob first started this thread, I don't think he was being hyper-sensitive at all. He politely explained that profanity bothers him and made a humble request. I suppose you could say (as you did) that he is being hypersensitive about the response he has received. However, in response, I would say that some of the initial responses to Rob in this thread were hyper-insensitive. Is it really that difficult to give up using foul language when politely asked to do so?

While I agree, especially in light of the recent new thread about profanity begun by Karel, that there really isn't a huge problem with profanity here, if a member is bothered by it and asks others to stop, what's wrong with that? On the other hand, I do see something wrong when, after being asked to refrain from using such language, to write posts containing exactly the language that is offensive.

This can be applied to anything, not just profanity. Hypothetically speaking, imagine your friend is doing something that bothers you and you politely ask that friend to stop. How do you respond if, instead of stopping, your friend does exactly the behavior that is bothering you? My guess is that you leave. Are you then being hyper-sensitive? Or are you just removing yourself from a situation that bothers you?

[IIC]

When Rob first started this thread, I don't think he was being hyper-sensitive at all. He politely explained that profanity bothers him and made a humble request. I suppose you could say (as you did) that he is being hypersensitive about the response he has received. However, in response, I would say that some of the initial responses to Rob in this thread were hyper-insensitive. Is it really that difficult to give up using foul language when politely asked to do so?

While I agree, especially in light of the recent new thread about profanity begun by Karel, that there really isn't a huge problem with profanity here, if a member is bothered by it and asks others to stop, what's wrong with that? On the other hand, I do see something wrong when, after being asked to refrain from using such language, to write posts containing exactly the language that is offensive.

This can be applied to anything, not just profanity. Hypothetically speaking, imagine your friend is doing something that bothers you and you politely ask that friend to stop. How do you respond if, instead of stopping, your friend does exactly the behavior that is bothering you? My guess is that you leave. Are you then being hyper-sensitive? Or are you just removing yourself from a situation that bothers you?

I'm not putting him down...But I do not agree that profanity is a problem here...at least I fail to see it. Actually, I'm surprised at Karel's results...I didn't even think there was as much as his scan found.

I said that Rob had the right to ask...But I really think he should be directing his concerns to the people who run this forum...They are really the only ones that have any power to do anything about it anyway.

I'd like some examples...I don't even know who he is talking about?...Best, Doug

[Tatnic]

When Rob first started this thread, I don't think he was being hyper-sensitive at all. He politely explained that profanity bothers him and made a humble request. I suppose you could say (as you did) that he is being hypersensitive about the response he has received. However, in response, I would say that some of the initial responses to Rob in this thread were hyper-insensitive. Is it really that difficult to give up using foul language when politely asked to do so?

While I agree, especially in light of the recent new thread about profanity begun by Karel, that there really isn't a huge problem with profanity here, if a member is bothered by it and asks others to stop, what's wrong with that? On the other hand, I do see something wrong when, after being asked to refrain from using such language, to write posts containing exactly the language that is offensive.

This can be applied to anything, not just profanity. Hypothetically speaking, imagine your friend is doing something that bothers you and you politely ask that friend to stop. How do you respond if, instead of stopping, your friend does exactly the behavior that is bothering you? My guess is that you leave. Are you then being hyper-sensitive? Or are you just removing yourself from a situation that bothers you?

well, I can't speak for everyone and neither can you or rob, but what bothered me about his request was that it smelled of being too pushy and authoritative. If this was his site, then he can ask whatever he wants, but it wasn't even his own thread, and he was asking that the entire universe of users to conform to his beliefs..what's next, will he ask that we all start the day with prayer, or to vote a certain way? If you or rob are offended by certain language from certain posters then there is an ignore feature. Don't try to impose your will on everyone who comes to the site. And to be perfectly honest, you should be listening and reading, not posting. NOw how's that for being offensive without using profanity?

[Mary]

Pushy? Authoritative?

well, I can't speak for everyone and neither can you or rob, but what bothered me about his request was that it smelled of being too pushy and authoritative. If this was his site, then he can ask whatever he wants, but it wasn't even his own thread, and he was asking that the entire universe of users to conform to his beliefs..what's next, will he ask that we all start the day with prayer, or to vote a certain way? If you or rob are offended by certain language from certain posters then there is an ignore feature. Don't try to impose your will on everyone who comes to the site. And to be perfectly honest, you should be listening and reading, not posting. NOw how's that for being offensive without using profanity?

I'm not trying to speak for everyone, nor do I think Rob is, nor is anyone else that I know of. How can a request be pushy or authoritative? It's a request, not an order. The "humble request" thread is Rob's own thread. I don't know which thread you are referring to when you said it isn't his thread. As for the "what's next" comment, I generally don't pay much attention to slippery slope arguments. Making an argument that Rob may next ask everyone to start the day with prayer or tell everyone how to vote is a ridiculous giant leap and I've no idea where it came from. I am not trying to impose my will on anyone, nor is Rob. Rob humbly asked the folks to refrain from the use of profanity and stated that if this forum ceases to be fun for him, he will stop visiting it. That's imposing his will on himself and no one else. As for me, my biggest mistake as one of th newest members here was to stick my nose in to this disagreement. It would have been better for me to be silent and watch from the sidelines. However, he is my brother, so I felt the need to show my support for his point of view.

[IIC]

Personally, I think this discussion has gone a bit overboard. Rob is entitled to his opinion. He's also entitled to quit visiting if he wants to. Too bad 'cause I like him...But I've quit a lot of forums over the years because I didn't like the way things were going and/or handled. It was never because of profanity though.

The decision is Rob's as to whether he stays or not. But after the dialogue here I imagine he'll leave...I wish Rob all the best...Doug(IIC)

[skiracer]

I'm not trying to speak for everyone, nor do I think Rob is, nor is anyone else that I know of. How can a request be pushy or authoritative? It's a request, not an order. The "humble request" thread is Rob's own thread. I don't know which thread you are referring to when you said it isn't his thread. As for the "what's next" comment, I generally don't pay much attention to slippery slope arguments. Making an argument that Rob may next ask everyone to start the day with prayer or tell everyone how to vote is a ridiculous giant leap and I've no idea where it came from. I am not trying to impose my will on anyone, nor is Rob. Rob humbly asked the folks to refrain from the use of profanity and stated that if this forum ceases to be fun for him, he will stop visiting it. That's imposing his will on himself and no one else. As for me, my biggest mistake as one of th newest members here was to stick my nose in to this disagreement. It would have been better for me to be silent and watch from the sidelines. However, he is my brother, so I felt the need to show my support for his point of view.

I personally start everyday with a prayer. You guys can to if you want to. Mary we know you love your brother Rob. There's nothing wrong with showing that. I hope Rob chooses to stay and bear with the limited profanity. I actually think that we are all now aware of this profanity issue and the need of some to express themselves with it's use and the others who don't find it necessary. I think this recent dialogue will in itself move us in the direction of at least trying to limit our use of it. Let's let things lay and move on to see where we go with it. We are all old enough to be able to try to coexist and to respect each other feelings on both sides of the fence.

[Mary]

Respect

I personally start everyday with a prayer. You guys can to if you want to. Mary we know you love your brother Rob. There's nothing wrong with showing that. I hope Rob chooses to stay and bear with the limited profanity. I actually think that we are all now aware of this profanity issue and the need of some to express themselves with it's use and the others who don't find it necessary. I think this recent dialogue will in itself move us in the direction of at least trying to limit our use of it. Let's let things lay and move on to see where we go with it. We are all old enough to be able to try to coexist and to respect each other feelings on both sides of the fence.

I agree with Doug that the discussion has gone a bit overboard. Additionally, I don't feel that my $0.02 worth helped. I think it had the opposite effect.

I agree with you, too, Ski, especially the bolded portions of your above post, and I hope this will all die down. Then I can get down to the business of learning something about the stock market in a fun atmosphere.

[peanuts]

hey new member

Hi Mary,

I have not received your membership dues, yet. Did you read the thread, "Do you want to become a member? Read This!"

Let me know if you need the info...