CAMH....worth watching

[IIC]

this is about CAMH, not eln or hans.....

You're right...sorry...Doug

Iic

this is about CAMH, not eln or hans.....

CAMH....Wellpoint hmo announces coverage

announced this morning in a press release......CAMH shares up slightly preopen....I think only UNH has yet to announce coverage....

[IIC]

I saw the question about Bob Jones...I won't go there....However, I will read the responses...I actually knew someone who went there in the early '70's...WHOA!!!...Where is the REAL World???

Jim...I have no idea about CAMH...But what about your bash on me for getting out of ELN?

We can all find fault w/ other's trades...Doug(IIC)


PS...I made 40% on HANS in 2004...Sold WAY too early thanks to...Hey...Can't blame anyone but myself...IIC

Keep an eye on CAMH

Big week coming up....I believe Blue Cross of California said they will cover MTWA as a test they deem medically necessary......Those last two words are key.....Update was Saturday.

[New-born baby]

NBB,

I looked on a map and picked 6 places that I wanted to live. I then just called hospitlas to see if they had an ED physician job. Based on job, cost of living, weather, and outdoor recreational activities, Greenville won out. Although I do work 3 days a month in Branson, MO so that I can fund my trading account. Did you go to Bob Jones or Furman?

BJU. I pastor a church in Monroe, WI.

Greenville was an excellent choice, although it has one negative. The way those people drive . . . any 80 year old woman from Greenville can hold her own against any NY cabbie. No question about it.

[jblaze71]

Jim,

I do agree with his statement, but that does not mean that widespread testing will happen even if the STJ and CAMH research proves the effectiveness of MTWA. Unfortunately in medicine, most things are about the bottom line with minimal altruism mixed in. I will equate this test to doing an ultrasound on every high school athlete to rule out hypertrophic obstructive cardiomyopathy (The heart disease that causes sudden death in sed athletes), they have effectively rule out this scenario because detection rates are so low that it is not cost effective to do this on every athlete. I think that this is probably how the testing will work. Sorry that I am rambling but there are a lot of ideas and different scenarios that could play out. Most likely this will be adopted, many people will get the test but not everyone who needs it. The other scenario is that after widespread use if the detection rate is something around 1/1000, CMS (Medicare) will cut reimbursement and the test will go on the shelf.



BTW I do think this would be a coup for the cardiologists because they could do exercise stress tests and MTWA at the same time and could double bill. I think this will be a good push for the test because more money for the physician means more implementation

jblaze,,,,,could you evaluate the following

i believe as i have said before, that there will be a 3 way deal between icd guys, cms, and mtwa..cms will raise lf to at least 40 maybe 45, and icd guys accept mtwa negative result as ...,..NEGATIVE, and patients finally get healthcare they deserve..Its obsurd to continue using soley lf below 30 when IF I KNOW THAT CRITERIA IS BOGUS, THAT THESE EDUCATED SCIENTISTS CERTAINLY MUST KNOW IT BY NOW...SO CMS KNOWS IT...IT DOESNT MATTER WHAT YOUR LF IS...THATS WHY I BELIEVE THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF THE ABCD TRIAL WILL NOT BE THE COMPARISON TO EP STUDIES, BUT THE FACT THEY USED PATIENTS BELOW 40..SO THEY AGREE TO LOSE PEOPLE WITH NEGATIVE MTWA RESULTS, AND GAIN PEOPLE ABOVE LF30, THAT THEY OTHERWISE WOULD HAVE NOT GOTTEN, THEN ITS AT LEAST A PUSH...IF YOU DO THE MATH, ITS A NET POSITIVE TO EVERYONE...THE MATH IN THIS SENTENCE IS THE NUMBER ONE SUBJECT MATTER DISCUSSED AT ICD BOARD MEETINGS FOR THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS..i GUARANTEE IT,,,,,THERE ARE MANY MORE POTENTIAL PEOPLE ABOVE LF30 WITH POSITIVE MTWA THAT NEED ICDS, THEN THERE ARE PEOPLE BELOW 30 WITH NEGATIVE MTWA RESULTS. BUT in order for it to work, MTWA MUST BE EVERYWHERE AND ANYWHERE TO FIND ALL THOSE PEOPLE, IN A GLOBAL SCREENING PROCESS..IF ITS NOT EVERYWHERE AND YET IS THE ACCEPTED CRITERIA, THEN ICD GUYS LOSE.THAT IS WHY THEY MUST TOTALLY EMBRACE FOR IT TO WORK FOR THEM....IF THEY LET IT "TRICKLE OUT", THEY WILL NOT GAIN FROM ITS POSITIVE VALUE..THE ONLY WAY TO GET THE MATH RIGHT, IS TO TEST A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE...THERE IS NO HALFWAY...
This is a guy from ragingbull.com applying the mosaic theorey to make some interesting inferences.

[Websman]

if camh drops below $2.60, I'll be out and will likely never buy it again.....I am not sure what VTP stands for but I am not finding it very helpful or interesting frankly

Why so negative Jim? The VTP inner circle is the most elite group of traders in the world. One important requirement is that inner circle members must exhibit a positive attitude.

Stick with me Jim. I could teach you the ways of the Vulcan, but you must be willing to cooperate.

[jblaze71]

NBB,

I looked on a map and picked 6 places that I wanted to live. I then just called hospitlas to see if they had an ED physician job. Based on job, cost of living, weather, and outdoor recreational activities, Greenville won out. Although I do work 3 days a month in Branson, MO so that I can fund my trading account. Did you go to Bob Jones or Furman?

[New-born baby]

NBB,

Just a little background on myself. I have really been reading books and IBD since March 2005. I did not have the capital to get into the stock market at that time because I was still in residency. I just started actual trading 1.5 months ago. I rely on both FA and TA, although my mind is more math related so I do favor using the charts. I have read Bulkowski's encyclopedia of chart patterns. I believed that HANS showed a dead cat bounce pattern. I figured with their in line earnings last quarter and everything that I have seen fundamentally this quarter that they would be in line again. I thought this would probably get more people to sell. Just a few thoughts; I might be totally off base and just got lucky. I welcome all input.

How did you land in Greenville? Family there? Schooling there? Or just the way the cookie crumbled? I schooled there.

What Dow Theory says is incredible: HANS below $5 IF***IF**IF HANS breaks that support line. But the chart knows more than the FA. Right now HANS did not fully report earnings. And there is a scandal brewing. I am watching that blue support line because if it breaks, she's going to collapse.

[jblaze71]

NBB,

Just a little background on myself. I have really been reading books and IBD since March 2005. I did not have the capital to get into the stock market at that time because I was still in residency. I just started actual trading 1.5 months ago. I rely on both FA and TA, although my mind is more math related so I do favor using the charts. I have read Bulkowski's encyclopedia of chart patterns. I believed that HANS showed a dead cat bounce pattern. I figured with their in line earnings last quarter and everything that I have seen fundamentally this quarter that they would be in line again. I thought this would probably get more people to sell. Just a few thoughts; I might be totally off base and just got lucky. I welcome all input.

[jblaze71]

Jim,

Yes I am. I just finished my residency so I am still in tune with what cardiologists are doing, but the cardiologists I rotated with were not using the Twave test yet so I do not have first hand knowledge of the test. I do think that the literature supports this test and since some insurance companies are paying for the test I think it will be implemented on a nationwide basis. I plan on talking with the electrophysiologists at my hospital system to see what they think about the test and if any of them are currently using the test, because they will be the initial group of doctors to take this mainstream. As far a the stock price, I think you have it pegged. It rests on the decision Nov. 15th.

[New-born baby]

NBB,

I was joking about getting out. Like I stated I think to make real money, this is more of a 1-2 year play.

BTW, I did get out of HANS. Still a rookie in the game so I am still trying to learn when to exit a stock without giving up gains

Blaze,
At the bottom of my posts, there is a link entitled "bear flag." That is what HANS just did. And it gives some strategy for playing it. At the bottom of this post is a chart. But what I am interested to find out from you is how you determined that HANS was a short before it collapsed Thursday. Fundamental analysis, or some other way? And do you rely on charts, or how do you determine you want to short a stock?

Jblaze

do I understand correctly that you're a physician? You sound like one.