When Saddam Hangs

[skiracer]

I usually lean to the right, politically. However these two guys really leave me scratching my head. What boggles my mind is how Cheney had the audacity to assign Halliburton to a no bid contract to cover all of the "services" in Iraq. I thought that Halliburton was in the oil drilling business?

Wouldn't one think that just the appearance of impropriety of assigning Halliburton as a contractor would have been enough to make them use a different contractor? It's just the "tough shit, we're in power, we can do whatever we want" attitude that makes me wonder about what REALLY is going on in Washington these days.

By the way, I was saddened to hear of the passing of Gerald Ford. He was one of the good guys.

You hit the nail right on the head Ernie. You would have to be pretty naive to believe everything is on the up and up with that Haliburton situation. It's been a sore spot with me since the beginning of the whole situation and they are all either getting or will be getting rich off of this Iraq thing. Their attitude stinks. They aren't men enough to admit their idea and no plan concept has failed in Iraq and that American boys are dying everyday at an alarming rate for what, a failed plan and weak leaders. As a society we are close to moral failure, our choice of leaders this time around was dismal, and take a good close look at where we as a nation are being led by our so called visionaries. We are in a terrible situation.

[Lyehopper]

Ski,
Wasn't it The Good (Eastwood) the Bad (Lee Van Cleef) and the Ugly (Eli Wallach) 1966

---------billyjoe

Blondie, Angel Eyes and Tuco.... Great movie, one of my all time favorites.

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[Tatnic]

You hit the nail right on the head Ernie. You would have to be pretty naive to believe everything is on the up and up with that Haliburton situation. It's been a sore spot with me since the beginning of the whole situation and they are all either getting or will be getting rich off of this Iraq thing. Their attitude stinks. They aren't men enough to admit their idea and no plan concept has failed in Iraq and that American boys are dying everyday at an alarming rate for what, a failed plan and weak leaders. As a society we are close to moral failure, our choice of leaders this time around was dismal, and take a good close look at where we as a nation are being led by our so called visionaries. We are in a terrible situation.

I've always said that wherever you find death, destruction and deception, you'll find Halliburton close behind, making a nice profit. I don't really think our country is close to moral failure. The majority of the country hates what this administration has done and would like to see some of them hang for it. I personally think dumbya is the absolute worst president ever to sit his sorry ass in the white house. He was a drunk and draft dodger who's mommy and daddy were always close by to bail his dumb ass out of trouble. Unfortunately, he got spoiled into thinking he could always get bailed out if he got in trouble again. This time he'll just leave his huge pile of shit for the rest of us to deal with, while he rides his precious mountain bike around his ranch. Here's hoping he falls into a nest of rattle snakes.

[skiracer]

Blondie, Angel Eyes and Tuco.... Great movie, one of my all time favorites.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXlda...elated&search=

Lye,
I just watched it. It's so good at the last gunfight in the arena.

[New-born baby]

Hanging Saddam is a good thing, and would not have been possible unless President Bush had sent the troops into Iraq. Besides getting rid of Saddam we also got rid of a major source of cash for terrorists. He was funding them.

[Tatnic]

Hanging Saddam is a good thing, and would not have been possible unless President Bush had sent the troops into Iraq. Besides getting rid of Saddam we also got rid of a major source of cash for terrorists. He was funding them.

I believe I read somewhere that most of the cash that funds the terrorists comes from the saudis. Don't hold your breath waiting for bush to do anything about that though.

Since we've gone into iraq we've spent hundreds of billions of dollars, lost as many lives as we did in the 911 attacks, and what do we have to show for it? One little, insignificant dictator that kept a lid on that place for the past few decades (with alot of help from us, remember those pictures of donnie rumsfeld sipping tea with saddam?)...maybe we should have kept him in charge of security.

Iraq is beyond repair but we just keep throwing good money and troops into that hell hole hoping for a miracle. Its also come to light that bushie has lied through his teeth about the conditions in iraq...sound familiar? Of course he didn't learn any lessons from our little disaster in Nam because he was drunk most of the time, missing in action so to speak.

[skiracer]

I believe I read somewhere that most of the cash that funds the terrorists comes from the saudis. Don't hold your breath waiting for bush to do anything about that though.

Since we've gone into iraq we've spent hundreds of billions of dollars, lost as many lives as we did in the 911 attacks, and what do we have to show for it? One little, insignificant dictator that kept a lid on that place for the past few decades (with alot of help from us, remember those pictures of donnie rumsfeld sipping tea with saddam?)...maybe we should have kept him in charge of security.

Iraq is beyond repair but we just keep throwing good money and troops into that hell hole hoping for a miracle. Its also come to light that bushie has lied through his teeth about the conditions in iraq...sound familiar? Of course he didn't learn any lessons from our little disaster in Nam because he was drunk most of the time, missing in action so to speak.

He would have gotten killed or worse gotten others killed. I couldn't see counting on him to watch your back in any sense of the word.

[skiracer]

Hanging Saddam is a good thing, and would not have been possible unless President Bush had sent the troops into Iraq. Besides getting rid of Saddam we also got rid of a major source of cash for terrorists. He was funding them.

Whatever the reasons for starting our situation in Iraq were, they have failed miserably. There is more civil unrest amongst all the factions, no clear cut leader or leadership within the Iraqi or the many different sectors, and the killing that is going on now is heightening on a daily basis and we are not in control at all regardless of what Bush, Cheney, or any of our legistlators tell you. The escalation of the bombings, ambush attacks, and killings of all groups in Iraq point that out explicitly. Sure taking Saddam out of power was a good thing but at what cost and what results? Is this situation that we have created in Iraq better than what we had before we went into the country and took him out. At least then we had a known quantity that we could deal with and control to some degree with international sanctions and the UN. These are not better times in Iraq and certainly not a better Iraq or middle east. And there is nothing that makes it appear to be heading in a positive direction or outcome.
Who can one blame except the people who propogated it initially, got us solidly entrenched, and have no idea of how to cope with it in a realistic manner. Hanging Saddam is not the answer or will it provide an answer. Taking the Taliban out in Pakistan an Afganistan was good and we should have moved in and kept them out while stopping and controlling everything going in an out until we strangled Iraq and the terrorists in Iraq and Pakistan. We had a good look at the defeat of a super power in the Russian's fiasco in Afganistan and we didn't learn a thing. Now we are in another very bad predicament again that is ripping our own country apart in a number of ways. When you take a good close look at the situation, realistically who is winning, us or the other side. Is it our advantage at this point in the war in Iraq?

[IIC]

Speaking of the Taliban...I heard on the radio last night that heroin deaths in Los Angeles are at an all time high. They were attributing that to the influx of heroin from Afghanistan...They said 1/6 of L.A.'s heroin originates from there now. Apparently the Taliban kept a lid on it and now the farmers are going crazy growing poppies.

[mrmarket]

Hanging Saddam is a good thing, and would not have been possible unless President Bush had sent the troops into Iraq. Besides getting rid of Saddam we also got rid of a major source of cash for terrorists. He was funding them.

We've already spent $500 billion on the war. I'm sure you could have hired some bad guy from $10 million to put a bullet in Saddam's head.

Alternatively, the economic sanctions and blockades were crippling his ability to be a threat to anyone outside of Iraq. Eventually, he would have withered away at a much lower cost of money and lives.

Was he a bad guy? Of course he was. Would more Iraqi civilians have died under his terror reign than the number who have been killed in this war and in the civil war to be? I don't think so.

[billyjoe]

Tonight the Hallmark Channel , #49 here , is showing "Hang 'Em High" , with Clint Eastwood and a cast of big stars. I think it would be a fitting gesture to have a private showing for Sadam. Only one part I object to is when they hang the innocent 16 year old ,billyjoe, who was guilty of rustling ,but didn't murder the rancher and his son. Some of the supporting cast : Inger Stevens, Ed Begley, Bruce Dern, Allan Hale Jr., and Ben Johnson.

----------billyjoe

[skiracer]

Tonight the Hallmark Channel , #49 here , is showing "Hang 'Em High" , with Clint Eastwood and a cast of big stars. I think it would be a fitting gesture to have a private showing for Sadam. Only one part I object to is when they hang the innocent 16 year old ,billyjoe, who was guilty of rustling ,but didn't murder the rancher and his son. Some of the supporting cast : Inger Stevens, Ed Begley, Bruce Dern, Allan Hale Jr., and Ben Johnson.

----------billyjoe

Another good one Billyjoe. I must have seen it a dozen times.

[Websman]

Hanging Saddam is a good thing...

I don't see how hanging anybody could be a "good thing". It is true that execution of killers is legal and justified, but I would never consider it to be good.

[Tatnic]

I don't see how hanging anybody could be a "good thing". It is true that execution of killers is legal and justified, but I would never consider it to be good.

Good point...and especially in his case since that's exactly what he wants, ie to die a martyr. He has said that he wants to be sacrificed in the name of his country. Its interesting to note that in the middle east hanging someone is considered human treatment...they usually just tortue them for a few weeks before cutting off their heads. So at least the country is showing some progress!

[mrmarket]

Good point...and especially in his case since that's exactly what he wants, ie to die a martyr. He has said that he wants to be sacrificed in the name of his country. Its interesting to note that in the middle east hanging someone is considered human treatment...they usually just tortue them for a few weeks before cutting off their heads. So at least the country is showing some progress!

I think we should sign him up for some Ultimate Fighting matches...on Pay Per View!