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  • jiesen
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2003
    • 5320

    I think you mean it dropped to $23.40. You don't want to give kingofthehill a heart attack, now, do you?

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    • Websman
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2004
      • 5545

      Originally posted by jiesen
      I think you mean it dropped to $23.40. You don't want to give kingofthehill a heart attack, now, do you?
      By golly, right! It only dropped to $23.40. Sorry King...

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      • spikefader
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2004
        • 7175

        Originally posted by Websman
        IIC...I've got a question for you.
        I placed a limit order on ELN today for $23.40. ELN dropped to $12.40, but my order didn't fill. Has this ever happened to you?
        Just curious.
        I've attached the time and sales data at the time you're talking about. The ones highlighted by gray are the only trades at 23.40 - only a total of 1600 shares. Then price remained above it the rest of the day. Why did you miss out? Well, when you put a limit order in place you go in line -first in, first served. Sometimes you're the first in line, sometimes not. Today there were others in front of you and you never got served. Had price continued to trade at 23.40 and all the other bidders served and sold your bid would have been filled, but there were only a few trades at that price, so you missed out. Bad luck dude.

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        • Websman
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2004
          • 5545

          Thanks for the explanation Spike!

          It still sucks though...

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          • IIC
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2003
            • 14938

            Today's MoMo:

            AGIX EXM GGC WYNN PETD AMXC TNH ADBL GPIC TOPT PARL BHO TRA CTHR PROG AKS WLDA FXEN GGY IO SOSA GDP ICOC DHC MAXC BPA TGA SSY PLP DEZ
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            • IIC
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2003
              • 14938

              Thanks for answering that Spike. I agree that could happen.

              On a similar note, I don't know where you get that info. But I've seen where my trade never shows up a number of times. In fact, one time I ended up paying more than any official record I could find showed for the hod by 8 cents. That was an odd lot that time BTW.

              I am thinking that everything is not as centralized as they make out...Do you know anything about this?...Thx
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              • spikefader
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2004
                • 7175

                Originally posted by IIC
                Thanks for answering that Spike. I agree that could happen.

                On a similar note, I don't know where you get that info. But I've seen where my trade never shows up a number of times. In fact, one time I ended up paying more than any official record I could find showed for the hod by 8 cents. That was an odd lot that time BTW.

                I am thinking that everything is not as centralized as they make out...Do you know anything about this?...Thx
                Yes, I too very often can't find my order in the raw data I'm looking at. And youve just reminded me that different data sources often have varying data on time and sales. I have a number of data sources, but I usually have my charting backfill with prophet.net since I get futures backfill from them, but I also have the option to get backfill from MyTrack, Ameritrade, and quote.com. I also have real-time data feed from IB (which I KNOW doesn't have all data but rather just what IB executes). The raw data I've got doesn't show every data source out there, so there were likely other trades I'm not seeing, but in any case, it's the same reason why Webs wasn't filled today. That price was the LOD, and obviously the line of bidders wasn't taken out and he was left with a sad face today - bad luck Webs. Frustrating for me today too -- had I had another 2 pennies stop loss I'd still be long!!
                Last edited by spikefader; 09-28-2004, 10:56 PM.

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                • IIC
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 14938

                  Thanks Spike.

                  Anyway...here is my S/R take for Wednesday:

                  Support/Resistance for Tuesday

                  Nasdaq

                  Resistance

                  1979
                  1970
                  1960
                  1935
                  1915-1920
                  1895-1903-Weak

                  1875-1880-VERY STRONG

                  Support

                  1850-1855-Weak
                  1836-1841
                  1813-1820-Weak
                  1750-1755

                  QQQ

                  Resistance

                  36.15
                  35.65-Medium
                  35.35-Weak
                  34.85- VERY STRONG

                  Support

                  34.45
                  34.00-34.05-Medium
                  33.70-33.80-Weak
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                  • IIC
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2003
                    • 14938

                    "really" Early Watch: Orbz Pcln Accl Nxtp Rock Iaci Crds Lucy
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                    • IIC
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 14938

                      Morning Watch:ORBZ PCLN ACCL NXTP ROCK IACI CRDS LUCY AM GHCI BLUD MKC SATC AMGN IDNX PER EGHT SIRI ACCL GENR GMAI NTGR YAKC
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                      • IIC
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2003
                        • 14938

                        Today's MoMo:

                        VSEC UHAL CCJ RIV KRO BLUD HUBG VIDE JUPM AIRT CBTE GPIC GDP PROG

                        Had to hit the road 1/2hr after the mkt opened...no trades today
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                        • spikefader
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2004
                          • 7175

                          Originally posted by IIC
                          Today's MoMo:

                          VSEC UHAL CCJ RIV KRO BLUD HUBG VIDE JUPM AIRT CBTE GPIC GDP PROG

                          Had to hit the road 1/2hr after the mkt opened...no trades today
                          KRO is a good one to review: http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/forum/...postcount=1004

                          and of the others, I like BLUD and CBTE to buy the open.

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                          • IIC
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2003
                            • 14938

                            Originally posted by spikefader
                            KRO is a good one to review: http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/forum/...postcount=1004

                            and of the others, I like BLUD and CBTE to buy the open.
                            Thx Spike...but with my daytrading exploits since 8/23 I have not traded in the first half hour. That is a whole other ballgame...and I don't know that game...maybe later on. Anyway, it is going better than I had planned on over 70 trades so far.
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                            • billyjoe
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2003
                              • 9014

                              IIC daytrading

                              IIC, I'm very interested in seeing if you can maintain approx. 15% per each 30 day period in the daytrading experiment. Have you tried this before using different methods?
                              billyjoe

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                              • IIC
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2003
                                • 14938

                                Originally posted by billyjoe
                                IIC, I'm very interested in seeing if you can maintain approx. 15% per each 30 day period in the daytrading experiment. Have you tried this before using different methods?
                                billyjoe
                                Billy...I'm new to daytrading. I decided to learn about it in January. I paper traded from Fe-Je...then made a few trades. The method I'm using is basically News based gaps on vol(that's mostly what you'll find in my pre-lists), wait for a p/b on lo vol...possible lo vol consolidation and then wait for a possible 2nd move on vol. Later there are other setups but they are all based on p/v. I also watch the Naz direction and group movement in realtime...none of this 20 min delayed cr*p. I still keep DGO for A/H research though.

                                Anyway...I still have some intermediate holdings...7 of 'em including my fave... WITS... which I rate as a SUPER DUPER ULTRA DELUXE STRONG BUY at this point.

                                Back to daytrading...I have tons to learn. Like yesterday, during one period when the mkt was gonna turn down...I pulled up metal stocks...got defensive and picked off RIO for a quickie...when the Naz reversed up...I cashed it for a nice little gainer.

                                I started daytrading only on 8/23. Through 9/24 I had 62 trades for +20.36% including commish. And I don't even have the right tools yet...e.g. Direct Access. I also have not used my margin...I will not do that until I am more comfortable with this... which will take some time. Maybe I have been lucky???

                                This week I made 6 trades on Monday 3up 3dn...but I lost $$$ for the day. Tuesday I made 4 trades...3up 1dn and did pretty good.

                                I am a long time Canslimmer...turned Swing Trader ...turned...well, we'll see??? But let me tell 'ya...I'm having fun.

                                I'm not a Master Technician by any means...that's why I like reading Spike's take right here at Mr. M...However, I know Canslim inside/out...not that I consider myself a Canslimmer anymore...but I still carry some of the influences of it with me....It served me well from '83-'00.

                                On a final note...I enjoy talking to almost everybody...but I try to surround myself with better traders than I am...I have quite a network of great people to trade ideas with...Best, IIC
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