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  • jiesen
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2003
    • 5321

    #91
    Originally posted by antioch6 View Post
    Can you put me and my dad in with the 20% penalty? He wants MSFT as his pick. I want EA. Thanks, if possible.
    Antioch, does your dad realize that in order for him to win this, MSFT will probably need to double in price from here in less than 6 months? Currently at $206, MSFT would have to be a $3,000,000,000,000 (that's a 3 trillion dollar) company in terms of market cap, to trade over $400.

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    • BlueWolf
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2009
      • 1079

      #92
      Originally posted by jiesen View Post
      I think that the rules are pretty clear in this case... late picks are allowed and welcome, with the 20% penalty. There's no second deadline, so I would assume any time before the end of the year, you could enter with the penalty. (of course the longer you wait, the less hope you'd have of actually winning) Unless there are any objections, I would just go by what the rules say.

      Also, to your other question, the price would probably best be taken as the closing price on the day it was picked here. But if you're tracking it, I would say it's probably best left to you to interpret the rules and decide which price to use. If you do pick the wrong price, you can always correct it later, but I have a feeling there won't be much objection if you are off by a day or a dime on this one.
      I think the best solution will be to use price at the time of Antioch’s post. I will use 1 min chart opening price at that time to determine this. How should I apply the 20% penalty? By adding 20% to the starting price, by taking 20% of the closing price or by taking 20% off the percentage gain? Any thoughts?

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      • BlueWolf
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2009
        • 1079

        #93
        Originally posted by BlueWolf View Post
        I think the best solution will be to use price at the time of Antioch’s post. I will use 1 min chart opening price at that time to determine this. How should I apply the 20% penalty? By adding 20% to the starting price, by taking 20% of the closing price or by taking 20% off the percentage gain? Any thoughts?
        For now, I will apply the penalty by adding 20% to the starting price. John Henry, when you read this, please clarify how the penalty should be applied if I’m wrong. I will be posting standings after market close today. Some real surprises this week.

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        • BlueWolf
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2009
          • 1079

          #94
          POY Contest Standings as of Market Close July 3, 2020

          I forgot that the market is closed today in observance of Independence Day, so I will go ahead and post the standings for this week. It was an exciting week as Mimo’s NEXCF blasted into the lead, dethroning PACO, who has been in first place since the very earliest days of the contest. Congratulations, Mimo. It’s tight though, and I have a hunch there will be many changes at the top before this is over. Also a warm welcome to Antioch and his dad, who just joined the contest. They have to pay a 20% penalty for joining late, but don’t rule them out. Remember, Antioch’s dad and Antioch finished 1-2 last year, so the competition just got tougher. There are some pretty incredible gains at the top of the standings right now, but if you’re still under water, don’t despair. Mimo’s NEXCF was hovering near the bottom just a few short weeks ago. Now look at it. Let’s see what surprises are in store for us next week. Good luck everyone.


          POY Contest Standings, As of Market Close Jul 3, 2020

          Contestant Stock L or S Open Current Penalty Gain/Loss with Penalty
          1 Mimo NEXCF Long $2.25 $‎ 4.24
          88.44%
          2
          Paco REGN Long $337.94 $‎ 622.45
          84.19%
          3 Riverbabe CRWD Long $61.09 $‎ 107.27
          75.59%
          4 Jiesen CERS Long $4.01 $‎ 6.76
          68.58%
          5 BlueWolf TTD Long $269.18 $‎ 442.93
          64.55%
          6 Billy Joe AMZN Long $2,008.72 $‎ 2,890.30
          43.89%
          7 NASDAQ QQQ Long $219.07 $‎ 252.19
          15.12%
          8 John Henry AMD Long $47.00 $‎ 52.34
          11.36%
          9 Mr. Market INTZ Long $5.97 $‎ 6.15
          3.02%
          10 S&P SPY Long $321.73 $‎ 312.23
          -2.95%
          11 Dow DIA Long $282.42 $‎ 258.42
          -8.50%
          12 Antioch EA Long $133.84 $‎ 133.84 20.00% -16.67%
          13 Antioch’s Dad MSFT Long $206.26 $‎ 206.26 20.00% -16.67%
          14 Tiedyed CODA Long $6.29 $‎ 5.11
          -18.76%
          15 Wifwif NVCR Long $81.46 $‎ 60.65
          -25.55%
          16 Minni17 OMF Long $42.37 $‎ 24.13
          -43.05%
          17 Phoenix7 SEAC Long $4.44 $‎ 1.45
          -67.34%
          18 Louetta BDGY Long $0.14 $‎ 0.044
          -68.57%

          Note: I have adjusted the table to use the closing price for the day of entry for Antioch and Antioch’s dad as per John Henry.


          Last edited by BlueWolf; 07-04-2020, 09:50 AM.

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          • JohnHenry
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2006
            • 1020

            #95
            Originally posted by BlueWolf View Post
            John Henry, can we do that? If so would it be as of today or tomorrow? I can integrate it into my spreadsheet, if it’s OK.
            Hi BlueWolf,

            I received a text asking me to check in.

            Sure you could add Antioch6 and Antioch6’s Dad.
            For consistency we usually take the closing price of entry date and take 20 percent of the closing price. Thanks for the weekly updates.

            MSFT at 206.26 on 07-02-20
            EA at 133.84 on 07-02-20

            Happy 4th of July everyone. Please be safe.

            Hey, have anyone heard from Skiracer?

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            • BlueWolf
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2009
              • 1079

              #96
              Originally posted by JohnHenry View Post
              Hi BlueWolf,

              I received a text asking me to check in.

              Sure you could add Antioch6 and Antioch6’s Dad.
              For consistency we usually take the closing price of entry date and take 20 percent of the closing price. Thanks for the weekly updates.

              MSFT at 206.26 on 07-02-20
              EA at 133.84 on 07-02-20

              Happy 4th of July everyone. Please be safe.

              Hey, have anyone heard from Skiracer?
              Thanks, John Henry

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              • BlueWolf
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2009
                • 1079

                #97
                Wow, Mimo, wow! NEXCF

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                • mimo_100
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 1784

                  #98
                  Originally posted by BlueWolf View Post
                  Wow, Mimo, wow! NEXCF
                  I just checked today's current price WOW! WOW!

                  This was a recommendation of a fellow stock picking friend.
                  Tim - Retired Problem Solver

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                  • BlueWolf
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 1079

                    #99
                    Originally posted by mimo_100 View Post
                    I just checked today's current price WOW! WOW!

                    This was a recommendation of a fellow stock picking friend.
                    I was going to ask you how you found it. If your friend has any more picks, let me know 😉

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                    • BlueWolf
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 1079

                      POY Contest Standings As of Market Close, July 10, 2020

                      What a week. The biggest shocker was the blowout performance of Mimo’s pick, NEXCF. Congratulations, Mimo, for not only being the first to double your investment, but also for almost doubling the performance of the number two pick, Riverbabe’s CRWD. Congratulations to Riverbabe for moving into the number two slot after Paco’s amazing pick, REGN, pulled back a little. Don’t rule anything out, however. We still have almost six months left and anything can happen, as we have seen. Mimo’s lead may seem insurmountable at this point, but we were saying the same thing about REGN just a few short weeks ago. Stay tuned and have faith.


                      POY Contest Standings As of Market Close, July 10, 2020

                      Contestant Stock L or S Open Current Penalty Gain/Loss with Penalty
                      1 Mimo NEXCF Long $2.25 $‎ 6.14
                      172.89%
                      2 Riverbabe CRWD Long $61.09 $‎ 119.65
                      95.86%
                      3 Paco REGN Long $337.94 $‎ 620.86
                      83.72%
                      4 BlueWolf TTD Long $269.18 $‎ 461.98
                      71.62%
                      5 Jiesen CERS Long $4.01 $‎ 6.83
                      70.32%
                      6 Billy Joe AMZN Long $2,008.72 $‎ 3,200.00
                      59.31%
                      7 NASDAQ QQQ Long $219.07 $‎ 263.97
                      20.50%
                      8 John Henry AMD Long $47.00 $‎ 55.88
                      18.89%
                      9 Mr. Market INTZ Long $5.97 $‎ 5.95
                      -0.34%
                      10 S&P SPY Long $321.73 $‎ 317.59
                      -1.29%
                      11 Dow DIA Long $282.42 $‎ 260.82
                      -7.65%
                      12 Antioch EA Long $133.84 $‎ 140.81 20.00% -12.33%
                      13 Antioch’s Dad MSFT Long $206.26 $‎ 213.67 20.00% -13.67%
                      14 Tiedyed CODA Long $6.29 $‎ 5.10
                      -18.92%
                      15 Wifwif NVCR Long $81.46 $‎ 60.38
                      -25.88%
                      16 Minni17 OMF Long $42.37 $‎ 23.51
                      -44.51%
                      17 Phoenix7 SEAC Long $4.44 $‎ 1.35
                      -69.59%
                      18 Louetta BDGY Long $0.14 $‎ 0.040
                      -71.43%

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                      • riverbabe
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2005
                        • 3373

                        Nice one Tim!

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                        • BlueWolf
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 1079

                          POY Contest Standings As of Market Close, July 17, 2020

                          There was a little bit of jostling at the top of the standings this week. Other than that, however, things pretty much remained the same with Mimo way out in front with a pick (NEXCF) that has almost tripled since the start of the contest. If you’re not in the mix yet, stay the course. Change is the only constant in the market.


                          POY Contest Standings As of Market Close, July 17, 2020

                          Contestant Stock L or S Open Current Penalty Gain/Loss with Penalty
                          1
                          Mimo NEXCF Long $2.25 $‎ 6.67
                          196.44%
                          2
                          Paco REGN Long $337.94 $‎ 644.06
                          90.58%
                          3
                          Jiesen CERS Long $4.01 $‎ 6.77
                          68.83%
                          4
                          Riverbabe CRWD Long $61.09 $‎ 101.43
                          66.03%
                          5
                          BlueWolf TTD Long $269.18 $‎ 433.03
                          60.87%
                          6
                          Billy Joe AMZN Long $2,008.72 $‎ 2,961.97
                          47.46%
                          7
                          NASDAQ QQQ Long $219.07 $‎ 259.42
                          18.42%
                          8
                          John Henry AMD Long $47.00 $‎ 55.05
                          17.13%
                          9
                          Mr. Market INTZ Long $5.97 $‎ 6.07
                          1.68%
                          10
                          S&P SPY Long $321.73 $‎ 321.72
                          -0.00%
                          11
                          Dow DIA Long $282.42 $‎ 266.74
                          -5.55%
                          12
                          Tiedyed CODA Long $6.29 $‎ 5.53
                          -12.08%
                          13
                          Antioch EA Long $133.84 $‎ 138.31 20.00% -13.88%
                          14
                          Antioch’s Dad MSFT Long $206.26 $‎ 202.88 20.00% -18.03%
                          15
                          Wifwif NVCR Long $81.46 $‎ 63.14
                          -22.49%
                          16
                          Minni17 OMF Long $42.37 $‎ 24.01
                          -43.33%
                          17
                          Phoenix7 SEAC Long $4.44 $‎ 1.55
                          -65.09%
                          18
                          Louetta BDGY Long $0.14 $‎ 0.040
                          -71.57%

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                          • jiesen
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 5321

                            A big day for INTZ, up about 30% just today! Congrats, $$MM you're in the running again, too!

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                            • BlueWolf
                              Senior Member
                              • Jun 2009
                              • 1079

                              POY Contest Standings as of Market Close, July 24, 2020

                              This was another interesting week, with the big news being major moves by Mr. Market’s pick, INTZ, and John Henry’s pick, AMD. Mimo’s NEXCF still has a firm grip on first place even after a big pullback this week, and Paco’s perpetual top-of-the-leaderboard pick REGN still commands second place. After that, we have a pack of six contenders now vying for third place including INTZ and AMD. For those of you still below water, keep the faith. There will be plenty more jostling before this thing is over.

                              POY Contest Standings As of Market Close, July 24, 2020

                              Contestant Stock L or S Open Current Penalty Gain/Loss with Penalty
                              1
                              Mimo NEXCF Long $2.25 $‎ 5.65
                              151.11%
                              2
                              Paco REGN Long $337.94 $‎ 608.94
                              80.19%
                              3
                              Riverbabe CRWD Long $61.09 $‎ 100.03
                              63.74%
                              4
                              Jiesen CERS Long $4.01 $‎ 6.54
                              63.09%
                              5
                              BlueWolf TTD Long $269.18 $‎ 426.07
                              58.28%
                              6
                              Mr. Market INTZ Long $5.97 $‎ 9.10
                              52.43%
                              7
                              Billy Joe AMZN Long $2,008.72 $‎ 3,008.91
                              49.79%
                              8
                              John Henry AMD Long $47.00 $‎ 69.40
                              47.66%
                              9
                              NASDAQ QQQ Long $219.07 $‎ 255.56
                              16.66%
                              10
                              S&P SPY Long $321.73 $‎ 320.88
                              -0.26%
                              11
                              Dow DIA Long $282.42 $‎ 264.69
                              -6.28%
                              12
                              Tiedyed CODA Long $6.29 $‎ 5.73
                              -8.90%
                              13
                              Antioch EA Long $133.84 $‎ 135.24 20.00% -15.79%
                              14
                              Wifwif NVCR Long $81.46 $‎ 67.00
                              -17.75%
                              15
                              Antioch’s Dad MSFT Long $206.26 $‎ 201.30 20.00% -18.67%
                              16
                              Minni17 OMF Long $42.37 $‎ 25.20
                              -40.52%
                              17
                              Phoenix7 SEAC Long $4.44 $‎ 1.42
                              -68.02%
                              18
                              Louetta BDGY Long $0.14 $‎ 0.038
                              -73.14%

                              Last edited by BlueWolf; 07-31-2020, 07:42 PM.

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                              • BlueWolf
                                Senior Member
                                • Jun 2009
                                • 1079

                                POY Contest Standings as of Market Close, July 31, 2020

                                Here are the latest standings. Mimo is still in the lead with NEXCF, but that previous, seemingly insurmountable lead has shrunken considerably and several people are now within striking distance. There are some pretty impressive gains in the list, but for those still looking to crack the leaderboard there is plenty of time left.

                                POY Contest Standings As of Market Close, July 31, 2020

                                Contestant Stock L or S Open Current Penalty Gain/Loss with Penalty
                                1
                                Mimo NEXCF Long $2.25 $‎ 4.60
                                104.44%
                                2
                                Paco REGN Long $337.94 $‎ 632.07
                                87.04%
                                3
                                Riverbabe CRWD Long $61.09 $‎ 113.20
                                85.30%
                                4
                                Jiesen CERS Long $4.01 $‎ 7.13
                                77.81%
                                5
                                Mr. Market INTZ Long $5.97 $‎ 10.20
                                70.85%
                                6
                                BlueWolf TTD Long $269.18 $‎ 451.32
                                67.66%
                                7
                                John Henry AMD Long $47.00 $‎ 77.43
                                64.74%
                                8
                                Billy Joe AMZN Long $2,008.72 $‎ 3,164.68
                                57.55%
                                9
                                NASDAQ QQQ Long $219.07 $‎ 265.79
                                21.33%
                                10
                                S&P SPY Long $321.73 $‎ 326.52
                                1.49%
                                11
                                Dow DIA Long $282.42 $‎ 264.35
                                -6.40%
                                12
                                Wifwif NVCR Long $81.46 $‎ 75.79
                                -6.96%
                                13
                                Tiedyed CODA Long $6.29 $‎ 5.77
                                -8.27%
                                14
                                Antioch EA Long $133.84 $‎ 141.62 20.00% -11.82%
                                15
                                Antioch’s Dad MSFT Long $206.26 $‎ 205.01 20.00% -17.17%
                                16
                                Minni17 OMF Long $42.37 $‎ 28.70
                                -32.26%
                                17
                                Phoenix7 SEAC Long $4.44 $‎ 1.57
                                -64.64%
                                18
                                Louetta BDGY Long $0.14 $‎ 0.026
                                -81.21%

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