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  • Louetta
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2003
    • 2331

    Originally posted by skiracer View Post
    Have you looked at the report? The report looked real good an up to $6.93 in the afterhours market. What do you think it will do tomorrow after the report and the afterhours action today? I'm holding a couple thousand shares from the $5.50/5.60 range for the last couple of weeks and through the earnings report this afternoon.
    Looking at the Outlook section in the report they report increased revenue due to less government snafus and additional projects starting up. Also guidance for the full year of $160-165 mill in revenue. They are only at $43 mill after the first half so that's a lot of money coming in the second half. Also year end EPS guidance of .56-.60 which gives you a PE of only 12 or so at a price of $7. So things look good for the second half. I'd expect them to hold most of their aftermarket gains tomorrow and to do better as the near term goes on. I would think people would look at the above and be encouraged. So if it were me I'd hang on.

    There is the shareholder lawsuit but I get 2-3 mailings a year advising me I'm a party to a suit based on some prior holdings and not once has anything substantial come of any of them.

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    • skiracer
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2004
      • 6314

      Originally posted by louetta12001 View Post
      Looking at the Outlook section in the report they report increased revenue due to less government snafus and additional projects starting up. Also guidance for the full year of $160-165 mill in revenue. They are only at $43 mill after the first half so that's a lot of money coming in the second half. Also year end EPS guidance of .56-.60 which gives you a PE of only 12 or so at a price of $7. So things look good for the second half. I'd expect them to hold most of their aftermarket gains tomorrow and to do better as the near term goes on. I would think people would look at the above and be encouraged. So if it were me I'd hang on.

      There is the shareholder lawsuit but I get 2-3 mailings a year advising me I'm a party to a suit based on some prior holdings and not once has anything substantial come of any of them.
      I liked the earnings gain this qtr. over last qtr. but really like the increased outlook portion of the report for the second half of this year an into 2007. The stock has been as high as $14 on less so I like their prospects alot going forward from here. Hopefully plenty of potential will lure buyers into it over the short to intermediate term. I'll be holding it for the time being.
      THE SKIRACER'S EDGE: MAKE THE EDGE IN YOUR FAVOR

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      • mrmarket
        Administrator
        • Sep 2003
        • 5971

        Originally posted by louetta12001 View Post
        Looking at the Outlook section in the report they report increased revenue due to less government snafus and additional projects starting up. Also guidance for the full year of $160-165 mill in revenue. They are only at $43 mill after the first half so that's a lot of money coming in the second half. Also year end EPS guidance of .56-.60 which gives you a PE of only 12 or so at a price of $7. So things look good for the second half. I'd expect them to hold most of their aftermarket gains tomorrow and to do better as the near term goes on. I would think people would look at the above and be encouraged. So if it were me I'd hang on.

        There is the shareholder lawsuit but I get 2-3 mailings a year advising me I'm a party to a suit based on some prior holdings and not once has anything substantial come of any of them.

        Good stuff, Louetta...keep bringing it.
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        • skiracer
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2004
          • 6314

          Originally posted by skiracer View Post
          I liked the earnings gain this qtr. over last qtr. but really like the increased outlook portion of the report for the second half of this year an into 2007. The stock has been as high as $14 on less so I like their prospects alot going forward from here. Hopefully plenty of potential will lure buyers into it over the short to intermediate term. I'll be holding it for the time being.
          Here is a link to the earning report and the going forward outlook and guidance:http://news.moneycentral.msn.com/tic...Symbol=US:HSOA
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          • jiesen
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2003
            • 5319

            lawsuits suck, unless you're a lawyer

            Originally posted by louetta12001 View Post
            There is the shareholder lawsuit but I get 2-3 mailings a year advising me I'm a party to a suit based on some prior holdings and not once has anything substantial come of any of them.
            I just got my settlement papers this week from the Global Crossing debacle. After legal fees, the average recovery per common share (like mine) should be $0.003. I won't get enough to recoup my postage if I send in my papers. The lawyers, however, got $15.95M plus expenses.

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            • IIC
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2003
              • 14938

              This Class Action Lawsuit stuff is a bunch of cr*p...I get 3-6 a month...I trash 'em...although when I get my notice on WITS I think I'll fill it out on principle.

              But I'm gonna tell 'ya Ski...I have a bad feeling about these guys...Not just because of the Stocklemon report...I thought that before it came out...Shades of Barry Minkow and zzzzzzBest...Please be careful...There is a lot of room for con games in this industry...Best, Doug(IIC)
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              • IIC
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2003
                • 14938

                Originally posted by jiesen View Post
                I just got my settlement papers this week from the Global Crossing debacle. After legal fees, the average recovery per common share (like mine) should be $0.003. I won't get enough to recoup my postage if I send in my papers. The lawyers, however, got $15.95M plus expenses.
                OK J...So you owned a mil shs...You get 3 grand...Party in San Diego this Saturday...Be there!!!...IIC
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                • IIC
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 14938

                  Ski...Any idea what that "Goodwill" includes???
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                  • skiracer
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2004
                    • 6314

                    Originally posted by IIC View Post
                    This Class Action Lawsuit stuff is a bunch of cr*p...I get 3-6 a month...I trash 'em...although when I get my notice on WITS I think I'll fill it out on principle.

                    But I'm gonna tell 'ya Ski...I have a bad feeling about these guys...Not just because of the Stocklemon report...I thought that before it came out...Shades of Barry Minkow and zzzzzzBest...Please be careful...There is a lot of room for con games in this industry...Best, Doug(IIC)
                    Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Would you call todays eps report crap or a lie or their outlook and guidance a lie. Personally I think that Stocklemon.com is more of a scam than HSOA and that you just like being right as much as anyone else with an opinion that went the wrong way. No big deal. Time will tell but todays report was real because it came off of real numbers. It all might just prove to be a scam and that you were right in the end but todays report and numbers didn't show anything like that. Tomorrow will give a better indication of where this stock is going. Over a million shares traded in the afterhours today at $6.93.
                    THE SKIRACER'S EDGE: MAKE THE EDGE IN YOUR FAVOR

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                    • IIC
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 14938

                      Originally posted by skiracer View Post
                      Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Would you call todays eps report crap or a lie or their outlook and guidance a lie. Personally I think that Stocklemon.com is more of a scam than HSOA and that you just like being right as much as anyone else with an opinion that went the wrong way. No big deal. Time will tell but todays report was real because it came off of real numbers. It all might just prove to be a scam and that you were right in the end but todays report and numbers didn't show anything like that. Tomorrow will give a better indication of where this stock is going. Over a million shares traded in the afterhours today at $6.93.
                      Slow Down Ski...I don't wish you any ill will on it...And yes...I like to be right...Not that I always am...But of course I like to be right.

                      Today's numbers are unaudited...Even if they were audited...It depends on who the auditor is anyway.

                      Tomorrow will only give an indication of where it is going tomorrow...Give it 4-6 weeks....Will it gap...sure...Will it hold?...I have no idea...If I knew I'd go long or try to short.

                      Are the numbers real???...How the hell do I know???...Nobody asked me to audit their books...But I'll tell 'ya...You appear to be unsure...Being defensive is a telltale sign IMO...I say "When in doubt...Get out"...I'd be a whole lot better off if I ALWAYS listened to my own advice...You decide...Is it worth the risk?

                      I hope you make out OK in the end...I'm just trying to help...Best, Doug(IIC)
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                      • skiracer
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2004
                        • 6314

                        Originally posted by IIC View Post
                        Slow Down Ski...I don't wish you any ill will on it...And yes...I like to be right...Not that I always am...But of course I like to be right.

                        Today's numbers are unaudited...Even if they were audited...It depends on who the auditor is anyway.

                        Tomorrow will only give an indication of where it is going tomorrow...Give it 4-6 weeks....Will it gap...sure...Will it hold?...I have no idea...If I knew I'd go long or try to short.

                        Are the numbers real???...How the hell do I know???...Nobody asked me to audit their books...But I'll tell 'ya...You appear to be unsure...Being defensive is a telltale sign IMO...I say "When in doubt...Get out"...I'd be a whole lot better off if I ALWAYS listened to my own advice...You decide...Is it worth the risk?

                        I hope you make out OK in the end...I'm just trying to help...Best, Doug(IIC)
                        Why would you say that I need to slow down Doug. Did I say something offensive or detrimental towards you other than the truth. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and I just gave you my honest opinion. Since the Stocklemon.com debacle about the stock you have been negative towards it on a number of points. I never once said anything negative towards you or your opinions but just maintained my belief in the stock and my position. Now the stock comes out with a great report and really good numbers an it still isn't good enough to merit some acknowledgement of that fact. What would make it appear to you that I appear unsure of the position? I been in it this time for almost three weeks and holding through some good and bad periods because of my belief in the stock. As long as I'm still holding it you can rest assured that I'm sure and confident about the position and the stock otherwise I would exit it in a heartbeat. But your acknowledgement that you don't know anything about the numbers or the auditing doesn't give credibility to your statement. And am I really being defensive because I disagree with your take on the stock. The stocks report was great and still you refuse to believe that the report is concrete but yet have no basis to support that other than perhaps your gut feelings. Yet you say I'm being defensive and that I should slow down. What reasoning other than I'm disagreeing with your statements would make it seem that way. I'm as sure as the day is long about anything that I do or say. Especially when my money is at risk. I appreciate your concern for me and the position but I'm a big boy and can take care of myself. If there is something solid that it negative about the stock then I'm open for any comments or critisim about it but please take a close look at your own posts about the stock and on what they are based.
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                        • Rob
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 3194

                          Goodwill

                          Originally posted by IIC View Post
                          Ski...Any idea what that "Goodwill" includes???
                          From investopedia.com: “Goodwill typically reflects the value of intangible assets such as a strong brand name, good customer relations, good employee relations and any patents or proprietary technology.”
                          —Rob

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                          • skiracer
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2004
                            • 6314

                            Originally posted by Rob View Post
                            From investopedia.com: “Goodwill typically reflects the value of intangible assets such as a strong brand name, good customer relations, good employee relations and any patents or proprietary technology.”
                            Sorry if my harsh brazen statements have offended you Doug.
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                            • IIC
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2003
                              • 14938

                              Originally posted by skiracer View Post
                              Sorry if my harsh brazen statements have offended you Doug.
                              I'm not offended...No problem...I just happen to believe this may be a sham outfit...What sets them apart from say an SVM? And 55% off the high...Well, I'm not so good at calling a bottom...Time will tell I guess...Doug(IIC)
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                              • IIC
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2003
                                • 14938

                                Originally posted by Rob View Post
                                From investopedia.com: “Goodwill typically reflects the value of intangible assets such as a strong brand name, good customer relations, good employee relations and any patents or proprietary technology.”

                                I know what it means...and it is the first thing I discount when reading a statement...Doug
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