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  • Phoenix7
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2011
    • 3663

    #76
    DeadDog

    Originally posted by Deaddog View Post
    My question is when do you take a trade? How long do you wait after the ppo and adx start to diverge?

    Looks to be a bottom fishing strategy. In order for the ppo and adx get that close you need a stock that is falling fast. In order to the indicators to turn the price has to reverse. Could easily be a dead cat bounce.

    Dead when I think of your name it brings to mind the great HBO special DEADWOOD.....but to answer your question ....if you can make a few points on a 100 -300 share investment , in these crazy markets it may be wise to bail.......as there is always another opportunity coming.
    I am just testing this "system" but also looking at others . I guess I am looking for the "perfect" system , although I realize that may only be a pipe dream.
    One system I am currently checking appears to be working extremely well.........upon further analysis I shall comment further.
    Dead I do appreciate your comments and questions .....I feel that here at Mr Market we are actually implementing a policy utilized by Napolian Hill in his book "Think and Grow Rich" which was called the "master mind " principle.
    All working together to solve problems for the benefit of all.

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    • Deaddog
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2010
      • 740

      #77
      Originally posted by Phoenix7 View Post
      .....but to answer your question ....if you can make a few points on a 100 -300 share investment , in these crazy markets it may be wise to bail.......as there is always another opportunity coming.

      The question wasn’t whether to bail but when do you take a trade?
      How long do you wait after the ppo and adx start to diverge?


      The reason I ask is that it’s easy to read the chart on the left hand side and see when you should have taken a trade. It’s much more difficult to see what is happening today.

      If the ppo and the adx are close, almost touching as you say, when do you enter the trade.
      Look at YRCWD. Perfect pattern but by the time the indicators turned up, the stock had hit the swing high and started back down.

      Exception to the rule? Possibly or maybe it’s a crap shoot. Only time will tell.

      The problem with indicators is that the price has to move before the indicators do. PPO just measures the difference between moving averages, ADX measures the trend strength. Both are lagging indicators. Price has already made it’s move before you get a signal.

      Does it work some of the time? Of course but does it work often enough to make a bet on it is another story. Seems to be the opposite of your chasing new high strategy.
      It is hard to find the Truth when you start your search with a preconceived notion of what the Truth will be.

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      • Phoenix7
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2011
        • 3663

        #78
        Crzhf

        CRZHF mentioned previously by one of the other posters appears to be making a move.......I am reluctant to bring it up because it is a highly speculative Pink Sheet stock , and like BIOF may not pan out.........louetta is still hamering me over that BIOF LOL!
        You make want to rethink CRZHF because for only 30 Cents a share and with gold and resources worth over 1 Billion in the ground it may turn out to be a real bargain!
        CRZHF is really a crapshoot , but I think the downside risk is minimal.
        REMEMBER that CRZHF has not pulled any gold out of the ground ,,,,,YET........ but when production begins CRZHF should IMHO SKYROCKET!
        I own several thousand shares......so I have skin in the game.

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        • edward
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2009
          • 124

          #79
          Crazy Horse is also listed on the TSX Venture as v.czh. Lots of good news coming here. I think once we get past tax loss selling season, you may just see a nice leg up.

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          • Deaddog
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2010
            • 740

            #80
            Originally posted by Phoenix7 View Post
            CRZHF is really a crapshoot , but I think the downside risk is minimal.
            REMEMBER that CRZHF has not pulled any gold out of the ground ,,,,,YET........ but when production begins CRZHF should IMHO SKYROCKET!
            I own several thousand shares......so I have skin in the game.
            Doesn't trade much. Where did you get in?

            Pink sheet miner =hole in the ground with a liar on top of it.
            It is hard to find the Truth when you start your search with a preconceived notion of what the Truth will be.

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            • Louetta
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2003
              • 2331

              #81
              Originally posted by Phoenix7 View Post
              CRZHF mentioned previously by one of the other posters appears to be making a move.......I am reluctant to bring it up because it is a highly speculative Pink Sheet stock , and like BIOF may not pan out.........louetta is still hamering me over that BIOF LOL!

              snip...
              LOL? Louetta's just trying to make you realize than when you actually get around to investing real money you can't just ignore the 40% loses. Or rather your broker won't. Two m's in hammering.

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              • Phoenix7
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2011
                • 3663

                #82
                Louetta

                Originally posted by Louetta View Post
                LOL? Louetta's just trying to make you realize than when you actually get around to investing real money you can't just ignore the 40% loses. Or rather your broker won't. Two m's in hammering.
                Louetta what you say is absolutely true......I can only strive to do better.

                Phoenix7

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                • edward
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 124

                  #83
                  I got in quite recently and the SP dropped a bit. I'm now showing a modest profit. Of interest, the company today released an updated resource report indicating a NPV of 484,000,000 which equates to something like $7.80 per share.

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                  • Deaddog
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 740

                    #84
                    Originally posted by edward View Post
                    I got in quite recently and the SP dropped a bit. I'm now showing a modest profit. Of interest, the company today released an updated resource report indicating a NPV of 484,000,000 which equates to something like $7.80 per share.
                    That may be true but on their web site they quote initial capital cost of $864 million.

                    78 million shares @ $0.30 = 23.4 mill buys you $10 million in cash and some mining claims. Gotta get the stuff out of the ground.

                    Gotta ask yourself who sold their shares once it got over $1.00? On the bright side looks like we’re back in the accumulation stage. The promoters will have to give it a pop if they want to raise more cash.

                    Mind you they’ve been milking these claims since 1968.
                    The Taysan Project has had a lengthy history under various joint ventures and option agreements since modern exploration commenced in 1968. The majority of work has focused on resource definition drilling and assessment of the Taysan Deposit.
                    It is hard to find the Truth when you start your search with a preconceived notion of what the Truth will be.

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                    • Phoenix7
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2011
                      • 3663

                      #85
                      Crzhf & dmat

                      Folks let me start off by saying that both CRZHF and DMAT are not for the faint of heart, and you must be able to tolerate huge swings in price , and be prepared to put in only money you can afford to lose.
                      With CRZHF and DMAT we are swinging for the fences, hoping for some future big pay day.
                      CRZHF is a gold miner with a huge gold supply in the ground .....once gold begins to rise and cost of production per ounce to mine decreases CRZHF should pay off in spades.......will this happen and when? Your guess is as good as mine.
                      Here is the current chart http://www.barchart.com/chart.php?sy...&x=85&y=7#jump

                      DMAT Dematco, Inc. provides dematerialization services to the securities industry worldwide. It converts financial instruments from paper form to electronic form so as to enable such instruments to be traded electronically on exchanges or exchange platforms on a peer to peer basis. The company is based in Encino, California.
                      Here is the DMAT Chart http://www.barchart.com/chart.php?sy...Date=&x=85&y=7

                      PLEASE if you cannot tolerate any risk perhaps you would be better off investing in MO and PM which will give you dividends and a nice rate of return over time.

                      I have SMALL positions in both CRZHF and DMAT!

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                      • Deaddog
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 740

                        #86
                        Originally posted by Phoenix7 View Post

                        I have SMALL positions in both CRZHF and DMAT!
                        What is a small position? I don't need to know the number of shares because that is none of my business, but if you don't mind what percentage of your portfolio do you use to gamble?
                        What % of your trading account would you allocate to each position?

                        Do you have targets for these lottery stocks?

                        Deaddog Rule:
                        Have exit rules in place before you buy.
                        It is hard to find the Truth when you start your search with a preconceived notion of what the Truth will be.

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                        • skiracer
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2004
                          • 6314

                          #87
                          Originally posted by Deaddog View Post
                          What is a small position? I don't need to know the number of shares because that is none of my business, but if you don't mind what percentage of your portfolio do you use to gamble?
                          What % of your trading account would you allocate to each position?

                          Do you have targets for these lottery stocks?

                          Deaddog Rule:
                          Have exit rules in place before you buy.
                          I can't knock Phoenix for taking a shot if he can afford to lose the money. a couple of years ago Websman brought a stock to this forum whose deal was to reclaim petroleum from recycling plastic bottles. when the stock was first brought to our attention it was under $.50 a share. Webs had bought a pile of it a under .10. anyway to make a long story short I took a look at it and saw that it had alot of momentum going for itself at the time and i took a shot and bought several thousand shares under $1.00. the stock went to over $6 or 7 bucks at one point and I cashed in at its peak at around $30000 profit. and then it dropped and went down to under $4 or so and I bought it again and made another big score of several thousand. at the moment I can't even remember the symbols or name of the stock. but there is no good use in throwing money away or consistently gambling with these penny stocks. you will go broke before you get rich.
                          THE SKIRACER'S EDGE: MAKE THE EDGE IN YOUR FAVOR

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                          • Phoenix7
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2011
                            • 3663

                            #88
                            True true

                            Originally posted by skiracer View Post
                            I can't knock Phoenix for taking a shot if he can afford to lose the money. a couple of years ago Websman brought a stock to this forum whose deal was to reclaim petroleum from recycling plastic bottles. when the stock was first brought to our attention it was under $.50 a share. Webs had bought a pile of it a under .10. anyway to make a long story short I took a look at it and saw that it had alot of momentum going for itself at the time and i took a shot and bought several thousand shares under $1.00. the stock went to over $6 or 7 bucks at one point and I cashed in at its peak at around $30000 profit. and then it dropped and went down to under $4 or so and I bought it again and made another big score of several thousand. at the moment I can't even remember the symbols or name of the stock. but there is no good use in throwing money away or consistently gambling with these penny stocks. you will go broke before you get rich.
                            Ski yes you are right , but if one still considers the purchase of penny stocks , I would suggest that he limit his purchase to just 2% of his portfolio .......for example a $10,000 portfolio should have no more than $200 invested in the Highly Speculative Stock , and when his postion DOUBLES let us say from 50 Cents to $1.00 I would recommend selling HALF his position and then playing with the house money!
                            CRZHF is HIGHLY Speculative and its rise is predicated upon the rise in gold.
                            DMAT is another High Spec stock described in an above post . CHECK THIS EYE POPPING Performace for DMAT


                            1-Week Change +26.7%
                            1-Month Change +95.9%
                            3-Month Change +744.4%
                            6-Month Change +850.0%



                            DMAT Currently selling for 19 Cents Enticing Isn't It ?

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                            • riverbabe
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2005
                              • 3373

                              #89
                              Originally posted by skiracer View Post
                              I can't knock Phoenix for taking a shot if he can afford to lose the money. a couple of years ago Websman brought a stock to this forum whose deal was to reclaim petroleum from recycling plastic bottles. when the stock was first brought to our attention it was under $.50 a share. Webs had bought a pile of it a under .10. anyway to make a long story short I took a look at it and saw that it had alot of momentum going for itself at the time and i took a shot and bought several thousand shares under $1.00. the stock went to over $6 or 7 bucks at one point and I cashed in at its peak at around $30000 profit. and then it dropped and went down to under $4 or so and I bought it again and made another big score of several thousand. at the moment I can't even remember the symbols or name of the stock. but there is no good use in throwing money away or consistently gambling with these penny stocks. you will go broke before you get rich.
                              It was JBII. http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=jbii&ql=1

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                              • Phoenix7
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2011
                                • 3663

                                #90
                                Good morning fellow mr marketeers!

                                We may not have been in the Mickey Mouse Club , but we are the Mr Marketeers!
                                I realize not everyone has money to speculate on the HIGH SPEC stocks So here are 4 shall we say "more conservative " picks .
                                The markets and gold futures are UP so today could be a profitable day , THINK POSITIVE and watch these stocks.

                                AKRX Chart for AKRX http://www.barchart.com/chart.php?sy...Date=&x=16&y=4
                                EGAN Chart for EGAN http://www.barchart.com/chart.php?sy...Date=&x=16&y=4
                                SPSC Chart for SPSC http://www.barchart.com/chart.php?sy...Date=&x=16&y=4
                                VHC Chart for VHC http://www.barchart.com/chart.php?sy...Date=&x=16&y=4
                                Ladies and gentlemen I have confidence in the above 4 picks , will they really rise over the next few days? .......well only time will tell!

                                Gezzzzzz stock futures are still climbing .......here are 2 BONUS PICKS
                                CMXI and QCOR
                                Good Luck and Good Fortune To All!
                                Last edited by Phoenix7; 12-20-2011, 10:01 AM.

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