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  • Louetta
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2003
    • 2331

    Originally posted by Phoenix7 View Post
    Here are the stocks I had posted BEFORE the stock markets opened on 12/21/11, and on a mediocre day 6 out of 7 posted WINS and only ELN suffered a .3% LOSS , had you placed $2500 each into all 7, your account would be ahead about $685 LESS commissions , but this is only for 1 day.....remember we try to hold 2-10 days !

    ...snip...
    How do you "place", as you say, the $2500 in each stock? Do you enter a market order at the open for each stock? Or a limit order and if so how do you determine the limit price? Or do you watch the stocks during the opening hours and buy when you can get a good price?

    I did the math in my head but it almost seems that to come up with the $685 figure you assumed you already owned the stocks.

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    • Phoenix7
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2011
      • 3663

      Louetta

      Originally posted by Louetta View Post
      How do you "place", as you say, the $2500 in each stock? Do you enter a market order at the open for each stock? Or a limit order and if so how do you determine the limit price? Or do you watch the stocks during the opening hours and buy when you can get a good price?

      I did the math in my head but it almost seems that to come up with the $685 figure you assumed you already owned the stocks.
      Louetta unfortunately for me I only bought HSTM , and I did buy using a market order at 9:53 AM . Since this is an experiment for me, I only purchased 100 shares for a total cost including commissions of $1880. Today I will set a SELL Limit order at $20.30 .so that I can clear nearly 8% . Time will tell what happens to HSTM.

      Have a beautiful day .......Phoenix7

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      • Phoenix7
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2011
        • 3663

        3 STOX For Today

        The 3 for today are BGS, HSTM and OKE. The only one hitting a 52 Week High yesterday was HSTM, BUT the other 2 have great charts.
        Check them out at the day's end to see what happens.
        Do have a profitable and beautiful day!

        P.S. Here is a chart for HSTM, merely plug in the other symbols for their charts.

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        • Phoenix7
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2011
          • 3663

          Is GOLD & SILVER READY TO MOVE?

          According to the Gold and Oil guy Au and Ag are on the verge of a big move......LOOK HERE http://www.thegoldandoilguy.com/arti...of-a-big-move/
          Now let us pray , that the miners at CRZHF Crazy Horse Resources get wind of this LOL!

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          • Deaddog
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2010
            • 740

            Originally posted by Phoenix7 View Post
            I only purchased 100 shares for a total cost including commissions of $1880. Today I will set a SELL Limit order at $20.30 .so that I can clear nearly 8% . Time will tell what happens to HSTM.

            Have a beautiful day .......Phoenix7
            Did you also place a stop order?
            It is hard to find the Truth when you start your search with a preconceived notion of what the Truth will be.

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            • Louetta
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2003
              • 2331

              Originally posted by Phoenix7 View Post
              Louetta unfortunately for me I only bought HSTM , and I did buy using a market order at 9:53 AM . Since this is an experiment for me, I only purchased 100 shares for a total cost including commissions of $1880. Today I will set a SELL Limit order at $20.30 .so that I can clear nearly 8% . Time will tell what happens to HSTM.

              Have a beautiful day .......Phoenix7
              Glad you actually got into the market with this. If you are going to make money with this system you will have to l learn how to trade it at some point. Also, as Deaddog has frequently pointed out, you will have to learn how to get out of your positions.

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              • Louetta
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2003
                • 2331

                Originally posted by Phoenix7 View Post
                According to the Gold and Oil guy Au and Ag are on the verge of a big move......LOOK HERE http://www.thegoldandoilguy.com/arti...of-a-big-move/
                Now let us pray , that the miners at CRZHF Crazy Horse Resources get wind of this LOL!
                I assume you mean a big move UP. You did not say and his article hedges things in a fashion which would awe Jim Cramer. Just to have a horse in the race I will say gold goes down in US dollar terms from here. CNBC quotes it at US $1608 per ounce as I write this. I'm talking about a three month time horizon. My rationale is that there are zillions of euros worth of refinancing coming due soon. This will cause problems and people will sell euros and buy US $. This will send gold priced in US $ down a proportional amount. People will see this and sell more gold. Net effect, gold goes down.

                I'm not saying your Crazy Horse stock will go down. No clue. I wish you luck, I certainly don't want you to lose money. It does trouble me that they have declined to file reports with the US SEC.

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                • skiracer
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2004
                  • 6314

                  Originally posted by Louetta View Post
                  I assume you mean a big move UP. You did not say and his article hedges things in a fashion which would awe Jim Cramer. Just to have a horse in the race I will say gold goes down in US dollar terms from here. CNBC quotes it at US $1608 per ounce as I write this. I'm talking about a three month time horizon. My rationale is that there are zillions of euros worth of refinancing coming due soon. This will cause problems and people will sell euros and buy US $. This will send gold priced in US $ down a proportional amount. People will see this and sell more gold. Net effect, gold goes down.

                  I'm not saying your Crazy Horse stock will go down. No clue. I wish you luck, I certainly don't want you to lose money. It does trouble me that they have declined to file reports with the US SEC.
                  I could never rationale why the Euro is selling higher than the USD. Their economy is in worse shape than ours and with this loan the European bank is going to be giving out it makes is even shakier to me. but right now the Euro is trading up vs the USD. I wish our economy would improve and the job picture would improve. If the banks would start lending money home buying and construction would improve but I dont see our adm., either side, working towards that while cutting spending. We have to have both. as long as there is indecision on those fronts with no viable solution in the works I see gold and silver as a strengthening hedge against the dollar and a soft economy for the near term of 3-6 months. my own personal feelings are that gold and silver both, especially silver, will move up substantially from these current levels and that the USD will lose value against the EURO.
                  I am also somewhat biased being that I own 1000 shares of the ETF GLD from when it first came out at $42-43 range. I would like to see it continue up. came close to exiting the position in the 80's low 100's and at 150 but am still holdling all of it. It has become a nice chunk and I would hate to give any of it back and certainly not 50-60 pts. this Greece thing and the European economy has brought the Euro down from above $1.43 levels and with it the price of gold. I think we will see it gravitate back to those levels.
                  Last edited by skiracer; 12-22-2011, 03:22 PM.
                  THE SKIRACER'S EDGE: MAKE THE EDGE IN YOUR FAVOR

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                  • Phoenix7
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2011
                    • 3663

                    Louetta

                    Originally posted by Louetta View Post
                    I assume you mean a big move UP. You did not say and his article hedges things in a fashion which would awe Jim Cramer. Just to have a horse in the race I will say gold goes down in US dollar terms from here. CNBC quotes it at US $1608 per ounce as I write this. I'm talking about a three month time horizon. My rationale is that there are zillions of euros worth of refinancing coming due soon. This will cause problems and people will sell euros and buy US $. This will send gold priced in US $ down a proportional amount. People will see this and sell more gold. Net effect, gold goes down.

                    I'm not saying your Crazy Horse stock will go down. No clue. I wish you luck, I certainly don't want you to lose money. It does trouble me that they have declined to file reports with the US SEC.
                    Gold and oil stocks appear to be so manipulated that any rationale seems to fly right out of the window. Very difficult to figure out.

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                    • Phoenix7
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2011
                      • 3663

                      Systems Anyone?

                      I am always looking for the "Perfect" system ,and have tried many. They all look so good on paper , but when you test them with live money most fall short of the mark, and don't measure up to the hype. Jack Carter's 52 Week high concept is not perfect, but it does work when the markets are on the rise.
                      Does anyone care to disclose a newsletter or system they followed or follow that has good sucess.
                      The best systems are simple, have good track records, and do not utilize hypothetical or back tested results! I am looking at one now that is simple , with a fantastic track record of actual results ,stay tuned as I investigate this in more detail.

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                      • Louetta
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 2331

                        Originally posted by Phoenix7 View Post
                        I am always looking for the "Perfect" system ,and have tried many. They all look so good on paper , but when you test them with live money most fall short of the mark, and don't measure up to the hype. Jack Carter's 52 Week high concept is not perfect, but it does work when the markets are on the rise.
                        Does anyone care to disclose a newsletter or system they followed or follow that has good sucess.
                        The best systems are simple, have good track records, and do not utilize hypothetical or back tested results! I am looking at one now that is simple , with a fantastic track record of actual results ,stay tuned as I investigate this in more detail.
                        How about Warren Buffett. Born into modest circumstances his system made him the second richest person in the world. And he made the money investing not hyping his system to others.

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                        • Deaddog
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 740

                          Originally posted by Phoenix7 View Post
                          I am always looking for the "Perfect" system ,and have tried many. They all look so good on paper , but when you test them with live money most fall short of the mark, and don't measure up to the hype. Jack Carter's 52 Week high concept is not perfect, but it does work when the markets are on the rise.
                          Does anyone care to disclose a newsletter or system they followed or follow that has good sucess.
                          The best systems are simple, have good track records, and do not utilize hypothetical or back tested results! I am looking at one now that is simple , with a fantastic track record of actual results ,stay tuned as I investigate this in more detail.
                          Probably be best if you could define what you consider a “Perfect System”.

                          There are a lot of systems that will give you positive returns if you have the discipline to follow the system.

                          Whenever I hear that something doesn’t work I usually ask for a specific example of how it didn’t work. More times than not it isn’t the systems fault.

                          I don’t think you will find a system that picks nothing but winning stocks. A trading/investing plan should include the criteria for choosing stocks, a method for entering a position, a predetermined plan for exiting the trade and a money management plan. Know your expectancy.

                          You are better off developing your own system, one that suits your personality. You are the best one to know your strengths and weaknesses and you can fit your system to yourself.
                          It is hard to find the Truth when you start your search with a preconceived notion of what the Truth will be.

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                          • Phoenix7
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2011
                            • 3663

                            Louetta

                            Originally posted by Louetta View Post
                            How about Warren Buffett. Born into modest circumstances his system made him the second richest person in the world. And he made the money investing not hyping his system to others.
                            Perhaps MO is the perfect example.......simply buy and hold , reinvest your dividends , and success is almost guaranteed!

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                            • Phoenix7
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2011
                              • 3663

                              Dead eye

                              Originally posted by Deaddog View Post
                              Probably be best if you could define what you consider a “Perfect System”.

                              There are a lot of systems that will give you positive returns if you have the discipline to follow the system.

                              Whenever I hear that something doesn’t work I usually ask for a specific example of how it didn’t work. More times than not it isn’t the systems fault.

                              I don’t think you will find a system that picks nothing but winning stocks. A trading/investing plan should include the criteria for choosing stocks, a method for entering a position, a predetermined plan for exiting the trade and a money management plan. Know your expectancy.

                              You are better off developing your own system, one that suits your personality. You are the best one to know your strengths and weaknesses and you can fit your system to yourself.
                              Dead ya make some valid points!

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                              • Deaddog
                                Senior Member
                                • Oct 2010
                                • 740

                                Originally posted by Phoenix7 View Post
                                Dead ya make some valid points!
                                Why thank you Phoenix, glad to know I'm not wasting my time.
                                It is hard to find the Truth when you start your search with a preconceived notion of what the Truth will be.

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