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  • lak
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2004
    • 124

    I think we could see a drop early tomorrow with a slight bounce in the afternoon......... I will be watching it closely too. Congrats Websman!
    Gotta love the big board!

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    • Karel
      Administrator
      • Sep 2003
      • 2199

      My pleasure, Jaws. But while those HUGE prices certainly look nice, they might be years and years in the future. Far enough away anyway, and clouded by enough uncertainty, to demand a nice discount now (read: more than the 10% annualized growth perspective at 9, and perhaps the 14% at 7).

      Regards,

      Karel
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      • Karel
        Administrator
        • Sep 2003
        • 2199

        And in this article, Jon Markman cites John LaForge from First Albany as saying that the breakeven point for Sirius would be 10M originally, and after all those big, expensive deals more like 20M subscribers. That would change the computation rather drastically, even still assuming 10M for the breakeven. Growth however was forecast at 30% annually, so that would be better than I supposed, but not good enough in the first 10(!) years to compensate for the higher target.

        Regards,

        Karel
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        • lak
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2004
          • 124

          Originally posted by Karel
          And in this article, Jon Markman cites John LaForge from First Albany as saying that the breakeven point for Sirius would be 10M originally, and after all those big, expensive deals more like 20M subscribers. That would change the computation rather drastically, even still assuming 10M for the breakeven. Growth however was forecast at 30% annually, so that would be better than I supposed, but not good enough in the first 10(!) years to compensate for the higher target.

          Regards,

          Karel

          Thanks for the article!
          Gotta love the big board!

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          • Websman
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2004
            • 5545

            All the estimates for breakeven on Sirius are forgetting one important factor...advertisement revenue. Sirius has ads on the talk channels now, while the music channels are still commercial free. The music channels could keep keep long ads off, but go with short sponsor announcements. There has already been talk of this.

            Sirius will need more ads and will probably start sneaking more in.

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            • New-born baby
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2004
              • 6095

              Shoot that Dog

              Webs,

              SIRI ads have the dog saying, "Commercials. That's why dogs ride with their head out the window. Get SIRIOS. No commercials." Well, if commercials are coming, then I think they will make a lot of people unhappy. Someone may just shoot the dog.
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              • Websman
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2004
                • 5545

                I want that dog to go down!!!!! I need a low re-entry price.

                I have a Free Sirus receiver ordered. I got one for free with a one year pre paid subscription. You can get one at Sirius direct and use promo code # 070

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                • Websman
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2004
                  • 5545

                  SIRI is starting to tick me off! This thing has got to take another sharp drop. I think I'll go to the Yahoo board and start bashing it...

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                  • Jaws57
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2003
                    • 100

                    article

                    Thanks Karl,
                    At least it is good to see a prediction of 50M subscriptions. I think the breakeven will end up somewhere in between. I like Spike's analysis of it potentally hitting 13.00.

                    Jaws57
                    Jaws57

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                    • MEA_1956
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 655

                      Fwiw

                      Another one of those things I have not noticed in all of the advice offered on this threaded is to print out the stats on your purchases. This way you can see if things are going the way your plan has been layed out. It sure puts a stop to the guessing game. ===> M.E.A.
                      GO BIG RED!!!!!

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                      • Websman
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2004
                        • 5545

                        What do you think of SIRI now Spike?

                        I only made 111%...I need more.

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                        • spikefader
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2004
                          • 7175

                          Siri

                          Originally posted by Websman
                          What do you think of SIRI now Spike?

                          I only made 111%...I need more.
                          Bullish on it with a stop 6.57. Entry with good R/R is the tricky part. May I suggest an INTRADAY inverted SHS with neckline break as the entry. Chart here

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                          • Websman
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2004
                            • 5545

                            Here's an interesting story about the potential of SIRI

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                            • lak
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2004
                              • 124

                              Originally posted by spikefader
                              Bullish on it with a stop 6.57. Entry with good R/R is the tricky part. May I suggest an INTRADAY inverted SHS with neckline break as the entry. Chart here
                              Thanks for the chart! That is a decent breakdown if you ask me.........
                              Gotta love the big board!

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                              • lak
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2004
                                • 124

                                Originally posted by Websman
                                Here's an interesting story about the potential of SIRI

                                http://moneycentral.msn.com/content/...11/P103119.asp
                                Great article Webs....... looking for a re-entry point myself........
                                Gotta love the big board!

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