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Originally posted by DSteckler<< Pardon me, but we won't name any child "Jacob" or "James". Why? The name means "cheater, surplanter." >>
Actually, "Jacob" comes from the Hebrew word "ekev," which is translated as "heel." If you recall your O.T., Jacob was born grabbing the heel of Easu.
Do you know Hebrew?
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Originally posted by New-born babyYes, literally it means, "heel snatcher" a colloquialism for cheater, surplanter.
Do you know Hebrew?
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Originally posted by DStecklerNB, it translates as "heel," not "heel snatcher." Regardless, in Hebrew it's not pejorative, while in English, "heel snatcher" is.
It was the Word of The Day on Dictionary.com on May 16, 2000 ...IIC"Trade What Is Happening...Not What You Think Is Gonna Happen"
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Heel
Originally posted by DStecklerNB, it translates as "heel," not "heel snatcher." Regardless, in Hebrew it's not pejorative, while in English, "heel snatcher" is.
In Genesis 27:36, Esau exclaims, "Isn't he rightly named Jacob, for he has supplanted me these two times?" No question that Jacob literally means 'heel' but here it is used in a way that means something more than 'heel', wouldn't you say?
Of course in English we also say someone is a 'heel' if one is a callous or dishonorable person . . . .
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Wtz
Originally posted by Peter HansenNew Born WTZ may take a breather here ......but I think this pony still has a lot of gas in her .....what say you? Thanx Pete!
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Originally posted by New-born babyDave,
In Genesis 27:36, Esau exclaims, "Isn't he rightly named Jacob, for he has supplanted me these two times?" No question that Jacob literally means 'heel' but here it is used in a way that means something more than 'heel', wouldn't you say?
Of course in English we also say someone is a 'heel' if one is a callous or dishonorable person . . . .
You're not saying that Jacob was somehow "dishonorable" for purchasing Esau's right as "first born" are you? Esau did not appreciate what he had and thus lost it to his brother who saw the true value of the birthright....
I would name my son Jacob. I would not name my son Esau.BEEF!... it's whats for dinner!
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Jacob
Originally posted by LyehopperJacob would have been a good business man.... Looked for that golden opportunity.... and then seized it.
You're not saying that Jacob was somehow "dishonorable" for purchasing Esau's right as "first born" are you? Esau did not appreciate what he had and thus lost it to his brother who saw the true value of the birthright....
I would name my son Jacob. I would not name my son Esau.
Let's say you had two sons who are less than 13 years old. The eldest, Esau, is all set to inherit your substantial business. Your youngest son swaps a bowl of soup for that inheritance. Would you honor that deal? Probably not.
But the real issue came when Issac was going to bless one of the sons with a blessing. Issac was resisting the will of God. Jacob, working together with his mother, deceived his father and his brother by concocting the stew, wearing the disguise, and lying to his father about who he was. Would you like that? By my measure Jacob was dishonest and scheming and working against his father's will. He was acting like a cheat--exactly what he was. His actions that day earned him the eternal hatred of Esau and Esau's posterity, and his actions would have cost him his life--except God intervened.
No doubt God would have given him the blessing just like Jacob gave the blessing to Joseph's younger son (Ge. 48:8-20). In other words there is a right way and a wrong way to inherit, to gain wealth, to do business. Jacob's way was the wrong way. I would not name my son Jacob or Esau. But I might name him "Lye-baby."
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Jacob the Crook
Originally posted by LyehopperJacob would have been a good business man....
Do you like to do business with a guy like this? Or hire a guy like this?
Suppose you hired Jacob to care for your flock. And then you find out Jacob is doing all he can to take the flock from you. Ge. 30:28-43 Jacob is trying to swindle his father-in-law. He is not serving him with his best interests in mind: a Bad employee and wholly untrustworthy business man.
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Newborn,
Were these characters really that evil and twisted or are they just examples of how we should or should not live our lives? Are there any biblical folks who just went about their daily lives without terrible or wonderful things happening to them ?
billyjoe
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<< His actions that day earned him the eternal hatred of Esau and Esau's posterity, and his actions would have cost him his life--except God intervened. >>
So let me understand what you're saying, NB...G-d intervened to grant Jacob the birthright; Jacob is one of the three Patriarchs; G-d obviously wanted it to happen this way; but you think that Jacob was a cheat and untrustworthy.
So what you're saying is that your judgement of Jacob and Esau is right and G-d's is wrong? Interesting point of view....
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Just a momento, por favor.
Originally posted by DSteckler<< His actions that day earned him the eternal hatred of Esau and Esau's posterity, and his actions would have cost him his life--except God intervened. >>
So let me understand what you're saying, NB...G-d intervened to grant Jacob the birthright; Jacob is one of the three Patriarchs; G-d obviously wanted it to happen this way; but you think that Jacob was a cheat and untrustworthy.
So what you're saying is that your judgement of Jacob and Esau is right and G-d's is wrong? Interesting point of view....
Compare Jacob with David's right to the throne. In David's case God sent Samuel to crown him secretly. Saul sought to keep the throne by seeking David's life. David repeatedly refused to kill Saul and take what God had already promised to him. Instead he waited for God to give the throne to him in God's time--which God did do.
So I am saying that Jacob sought to steal what God intended to give him all along. Jacob should have waited upon God to give him the birthright. No doubt God would have given him the blessing. The words that came out of Isaac's mouth when he blessed Esau and Jacob would have been the same without the subterfuge. God would have controlled what Isaac spoke.
Lesson: cheating to get ahead doesn't make friends or help the cheater.
And please remember: not everything David ever did was honorable. He was truly a great man, but he did sin with Bathsheba.Last edited by New-born baby; 04-30-2006, 07:16 PM.
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