New-born Baby's Cans: Making Money in a Down Market

[New-born baby]

Up, up and away

FRO-ITes,

Well, she hit $44.85 again this morning, and my gut tells me that's just about the bottom. Of course, I am not Omniscient, so I could be wrong. Still, that $3.50 divy acts as an magnet to draw the price back up. I see $60 by next ex-date. Might be a good time to enter.

FRO popped up $2.12 today--in this terrible market!

[MickyMouse]

Newborn,

I got even on my AY-un.to purchase today. And got the Can$.16 div last month, which help me beat market this year. Another div this month will put me ahead with a bigger margin.

Thank you.

[New-born baby]

Congrats

Newborn,

I got even on my AY-un.to purchase today. And got the Can$.16 div last month, which help me beat market this year. Another div this month will put me ahead with a bigger margin.

Thank you.

Micky,

Good for you!

Oil and natural gas are doing very well, and Cans should perform well for you. I like that monthly check!

[canaveraldan]

Hello all,
Does anyone know where I can find a list of solid companies with high dividend yields. Yes, I know dow jones is such a list. I was thinking of smaller less known companies like FRO.
Thanks,
Dan

[New-born baby]

Fro

Spike,

Here's the weekly for FRO. Any ideas?

[IIC]

Hello all,
Does anyone know where I can find a list of solid companies with high dividend yields. Yes, I know dow jones is such a list. I was thinking of smaller less known companies like FRO.
Thanks,
Dan

Don't know if this is any good...but I found this article:
Finding High Dividend Stocks
Business Week Magazine’s “BusinessWeek online” site (www.businessweek.com) features a screening program that works well for finding dividend paying candidates.
Get there by selecting “Tools & Scoreboards” from the menu on the left, then click on “Stock Search,” and finally select “Advanced Stock Search.” Business Week’s advanced screener provides 71 search parameters, but we’ll only need five:

Analysts Buy Hold Sell Mean (average)Cash Flow Growth One-YearDividend YieldProjected EPS (percentage growth) Current Fiscal YearSale Growth (percentage), One-Year
You can specify a minimum value, a maximum value, or both for each screening parameter.

[spikefader]

Spike,

Here's the weekly for FRO. Any ideas?

Blue skies imo. Channel long last week. I say it's going up.

[spikefader]

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[canaveraldan]

Thanks IIC, I'll report back if I find anything interestings.
Dan

[Thomrich]

Greetings to all,

I have changed brokers ,and ready to let my money work for me,at low cost from scottrade.

My analysis recently is that US based trusts ala PBT,BPT,HGT SJT, will outperform their Canadian counterparts.My reasoning is the 15% withholding for US citizens on distributions.

Look at BPT,HGT PBT and compare to any Canroy over the last 3 months.

Just some more symbols to keep in mind.

cordially and humbly Tom

[Thomrich]

Greetings again,

I dont want to throw FA into this,as i am believing more and more that price action reflects what needs to be known about entry and exits,but watching Bloomberg asia tonight,I saw a snippet about oil,and T Boone Pickens,whom I regard as world class in the oil sector.

At this time of the year,oil should have faded,coming out of winter,and prices dip before summer demand.

We are at record levels for crude,and as TBP has said,OPEC can increase production,but light sweet is the stuff in demand,with zero excess capacity out there.

Im not a swammy,but with NYMEX at 54+ in april,I wont be shocked if oil futures are 60+ this summer.

With all the knowledge in this group,we should come up with the best oil plays.

IMO tankers,drillers,and exploration should boom this summer.

Last summer,Wayne Rogers pumped Ultra petroleum on Fox at $30.I loved him on MASH,but I think his picks in energy have been even better.If we must pay a projected $3.00 a gallon for gas this summer,lets join in the profits of summer travel.

My Spring to fall picks are XOM,and JED.

cordially Tom

[New-born baby]

YES! and no.

Tomrich,

Yes! Oil is going up. Some are dumping Cans in expectation of a fall in oil/NG because in past years, this has been the time when prices fall before the summer driving campaign. But this year is different because China and India are buying oil in a major way.

No, I do not like XOM. You see, the stock price is $2.30 for every $1 worth of oil reserves they possess. They earn my official "overbought" status as a stock. How do you justify a $60+ stock price with a tiny $1.08 divy per year? That's less than 2%, and it does not appeal to my style of investing.

On the other hand, most investors in XOM just invest in them because they are the largest oil company on earth. So it may very well see price growth. I refused to invest in BPT for the same reason, and it went from $49 (overbought) to $65 (really overbought!). And on your side of the ledger, they have experienced horrific volume of late. [Translation: insiders are selling shares will it is hot!] IF you like her, go for it and I will wish you well.

Thank you for posting, Tom. Keep up the good work.
Hey, on this side of the forum, we think FA is valuable, too. TA is valuable, and FA is valuable. (If you can't read a chart, FA is easier to do!). So don't be ashamed to mention some info that might be useful.

[billyjoe]

New-born,

I believe GM's troubles are more the fault of management than the "greed of the UAW". My father retired from GM as an hourly employee after 31 years in 1981, his monthly retirement was $900. Do you think that is unreasonable? He's now in the Veteran's Home with Parkinson's disease and no it isn't free to veterans. After their monthly fees, my mother has about $100 left of the pension money, but with her social security she survives. They've had one new car in 29 years. Thankfully her house is paid for, she's been there for 50 years. The local GM and FORD plants are now phased into suppliers Delphi and Visteon. They pay new workers $10 or less an hour unless they get temps to work on site for $7 or $8 an hour. The economy is in a shambles, nobody has money to buy anything, except at Walmart and Lowes as they put all the small businessmen out of business. I know, my small business is on the brink.

billyjoe

p.s. didn't want to start a new thread thought you'd see this here

[Thomrich]

New-born,

I believe GM's troubles are more the fault of management than the "greed of the UAW". My father retired from GM as an hourly employee after 31 years in 1981, his monthly retirement was $900. Do you think that is unreasonable? He's now in the Veteran's Home with Parkinson's disease and no it isn't free to veterans. After their monthly fees, my mother has about $100 left of the pension money, but with her social security she survives. They've had one new car in 29 years. Thankfully her house is paid for, she's been there for 50 years. The local GM and FORD plants are now phased into suppliers Delphi and Visteon. They pay new workers $10 or less an hour unless they get temps to work on site for $7 or $8 an hour. The economy is in a shambles, nobody has money to buy anything, except at Walmart and Lowes as they put all the small businessmen out of business. I know, my small business is on the brink.

billyjoe

p.s. didn't want to start a new thread thought you'd see this here

Sorry to hear that,
What kind of biz are you in?Im in auto repair,and I agree,the economy is poor from what I see.American auto makers have begun a slow suicide with the incentive packages.

Very hard to sell a GM,Ford,or Dodge without %0 financing and cash back.
Kills repair biz,and used car value.

Oh well,Ill get used to working 2jobs.Good luck with yours.

cordially Tom

[billyjoe]

Thomrich,

I'm in the greenhouse business. Walmart , Lowes , and Home Depot will sell their green products as a loss leader until every mom-pop operation is out of business. Even if their prices aren't lower, we can't compete with the foot traffic. At most, a few hundred would come through my doors on the busiest day while the megalomarts get tens of thousands per day. Many of those thousands will buy plants that I would throw away.


An interesting fact that few realize. Did you ever notice the uncared for and dying plants at these stores? If they are thrown away, the stores get credit for them and don't pay the supplier. The suppliers are so desperate they agree to this and in many cases pay for the employees that water the goods.

In Ohio 2003 approximately 250 family owned greenhouses went out of business. 2004 it was about 500. I've been in business 26 years and if my wife didn't work, we would qualify for welfare. If I can make it till retirement I'll be ok , since my IRA's will save me , that's why I try to invest wisely.


billyjoe