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  • spikefader
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2004
    • 7175

    Originally posted by skiracer
    I thought it was a stretch to even call it a wedge on the 10 or 15 min. chart. The farther away from the true definitions makes it that much harder to use the interpretation of the pattern as reliable. Definitely not a wedge on either the daily or weekly as per Bulkowski's definition. Calling it a wedge gives it the impression of being bullish which I didn't see on either of the 10 min. or daily charts. I don't like the formation for trading and could never really understand why it is bullish when it is heading down. I guess they figure it has to turn up sooner or later eventually. I did like the weekly though. Seems to be finishing up the bottom of it's cup and turning up that right side.
    Ski,

    With respect dude, it's a no-brainer wedge on the 60 minute dude. Clearly qualifies because:
    * meets the "both lines sloping down" rule
    * meets the converging lines requirement (i.e. coming to an apex)
    * meets the diminishing volume requirement (since Thursday anyway)
    * meets the price up/down fluctuation decisiveness requirement (check out the wick at the tops of the up and tails at the bottom of the wicks)
    * meets 5 touchpoints requirement
    * I think an hourly charts need only 3 to 5 days to develop as distinct for 3 to 5 weeks for a daily chart, which is a condition it's met. Ya gotta creatively consider price fluctuation of an hourly chart on a relative basis to a daily chart, and it's clear there is plenty of price action in that chart to show there are decisive price moves that is converging into a point and wedging down......

    So in reality ski, I don't think my call is far away from the true definition at all.

    And while on the topic of wedges..........for anyone interested in patterns and support/resistance, channels and trendlines, and gap theory, I would highly recommend the summary posted by denpup over at ttrader.com of Edwards & Magee's book "Tech Analysis of Stock Trends".


    It's a very good summary worth a read.
    " Wedge Formations (Chapter 10 Technical Analysis of Stock Trends, Edwards and Magee)

    Definition: Pattern somewhat similar to triangles in which frequent price fluctuations are confined by nearly straight converging lines, but different in that both lines slant either up or down. Volume, as in triangles, tends to diminish gradually within wedge. Both lines slope up on a rising wedge, down on a falling wedge. Pattern of rising wedge denotes weakening of price structure.
    * Unless pattern is quite compact with frequent fluctuations, nicely bounded by converging lines, and unless up or down orientation is decisive, wedge designation is doubtful. If one line is nearly horizontal, safer assumption is a right triangle. Experience helps - this is the part where interpretation is more art than science, perhaps, or more intuition than following a hard and fast rule.
    * Normally takes about 3 to 5 weeks to complete (shorter patterns called pennants). Seldom more than 3 months.

    Rising Wedge
    * Unlike generally bullish right triangles, rising wedge has no barrier of supply to overcome (usually followed by price surge) but instead indicates a gradual petering out of interest. When demand fails, trend reverses. The converging lines focus on a point near where a reversal may be expected. Decline usually rapid once prices break out to downside.
    * Develops as a topping-out pattern of uptrend or forms at bottom of downtrend. Prices most always stay within wedge boundaries for at least 2/3 of distance from base (beginning) to apex. May rise all the way to apex or even push out at top in last-gasp rally before collapse.
    * Rising wedge is characteristic of bear market rallies. (This fact may be especially notable now when, after extensive decline, traders and investors question whether a new bull trend is forming. The appearance of wedges would indicate that the primary trend is still down.) "When a major bear swing ends in a head-and-shoulders bottom, the last rising wedge will often appear as prices rally from the left shoulder to the neckline, and just before they break down to the head (final low). " Rising wedge on arithmetic weekly chart is a bear market phenomenon-indicates slackening of enthusiasm that normally accompanies reactions against prevailing primary trend.
    Projection: Drop usually retraces all ground gained within wedge and sometimes more.

    Falling Wedge
    Price breakout, unlike the swift decline from a rising wedge, tends to drift sideways or in dull "saucering-around" move before a rise. Trader can take his time to commit at breakout from a falling wedge.


    Best to all and good luck this week.

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    • Websman
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2004
      • 5545

      Originally posted by spikefader
      Webs, may I recommend this to you: You don't go long ELN tomorrow, but you keep the bullet for when it opens after the halt, and you bid with a limit order at 10.25 for when it reopens. That way you're a bidder at wonderful support and will be a buyer after the good news gets sold and defies logic lol

      Besides, I think you're wasting 2 good days to make some profits and gambling on something that could bite you very hard and really mess up your numbers.

      Best to ya dude.
      My numbers will improve. ELN will go into orbit...

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      • spikefader
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2004
        • 7175

        Originally posted by Websman
        My numbers will improve. ELN will go into orbit...
        Well my emotions do hope for you bro, and for everyone long ELN....and I hope my target of 10.00 is just straight out wrong!! May your power of positivity have a marked affect on the uncertainty of reality and you are convincingly proven correct ... instead of humbled by disaster. Good luck my friend, good luck!

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        • Websman
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2004
          • 5545

          Originally posted by spikefader
          Well my emotions do hope for you bro, and for everyone long ELN....and I hope my target of 10.00 is just straight out wrong!! May your power of positivity have a marked affect on the uncertainty of reality and you are convincingly proven correct ... instead of humbled by disaster. Good luck my friend, good luck!
          Emotions have nothing to do with my decision... I am a Vulcan.

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          • Bean Stocks

            Emotions have nothing to do with my decision... I am a Vulcan.
            Is Data a Vulcan also?

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            • skiracer
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2004
              • 6314

              You'll have to do better than that for me Spike. Show me the falling wedge on the daily or the weekly. If you want to trade the hourly that's your business and you can quote or state anyone you want or twist it any way you want but there's no falling wedge on either one of those. The hourly is definitely not the chart I would want to be trading in this case. But we're talking about what the true definition of a falling wedge is here aren't we.
              THE SKIRACER'S EDGE: MAKE THE EDGE IN YOUR FAVOR

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              • spikefader
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2004
                • 7175

                Well I can't help ya then ski. You can dismiss the hourly if you like but it's a mistake to do that; sure it doesn't have the weight of a weekly or daily, but it still has weight. ....It's a valid pattern alright; shoot, I even listed all the criteria. Show me the criteria I'm missing then buddy. And I take a little offence at your insinuation I'm twisting the truth or perception. It is what it is brother; until it isn't. Just cuz you don't like hourly charts, don't dismiss the fact that I or other do or might. That's plain unreasonable in my view. And it sure ain't searching for truth. You're just stating a blinkered opinion and minimizing something of worth.

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                • I like IMCL as long as the bottom trend channel holds. Here is my 3 cents with daily chart. Stock looks like it’s still in a up trend to me. Not that it means anything but notice the 50dma getting close to the lower channel. Would be nice to see a 50dma bounce on it. Not sure it will make it though. Heck who knows what it will do next. Bear task is to drop price below the tweezer bottom and Bull task to take out highs.

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                  • dmk112
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2004
                    • 1759

                    Originally posted by spikefader
                    ...dismiss the hourly if you like but it's a mistake to do that; sure it doesn't have the weight of a weekly or daily, but it still has weight. ...
                    I think hourly charts are very important, especially for swing traders... and that pattern does look like a wedge to me, maybe not on the daily but definetly on the hourly.
                    http://twitter.com/DMK112

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                    • Lyehopper
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 3678

                      Rules....

                      Originally posted by Jim Smith
                      there should be some lower price limit on stock selections.....Picking AITX doesn't seem right to me.....
                      AITX.OB.... Current rules do not limit a stocks price.... but OTC BB stocks are not allowed in the contest. I see that Ski changed his pick but I'm sure this will come up again.

                      Now that is unless Rob has changed the rules.... Which he has every right to do... Rob, you might look into revising the rules anyway to better suit you as scorekeeper.
                      BEEF!... it's whats for dinner!

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                      • dmk112
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2004
                        • 1759

                        I'll take ARBA - long.
                        http://twitter.com/DMK112

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                        • Lyehopper
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 3678

                          Spunky Spike....

                          Originally posted by spikefader
                          Well I can't help ya then ski. You can dismiss the hourly if you like but it's a mistake to do that; sure it doesn't have the weight of a weekly or daily, but it still has weight. ....It's a valid pattern alright; shoot, I even listed all the criteria. Show me the criteria I'm missing then buddy. And I take a little offence at your insinuation I'm twisting the truth or perception. It is what it is brother; until it isn't. Just cuz you don't like hourly charts, don't dismiss the fact that I or other do or might. That's plain unreasonable in my view. And it sure ain't searching for truth. You're just stating a blinkered opinion and minimizing something of worth.
                          Hey Spike.... Your new avatar has got you all "spunky"..... jejeje
                          BEEF!... it's whats for dinner!

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                          • spikefader
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2004
                            • 7175

                            Originally posted by Lyehopper
                            Hey Spike.... Your new avatar has got you all "spunky"..... jejeje



                            lolol

                            ski, apology if I've was overly harsh back there...I'm on Atkins diet and my head hurts. I'll blame it on that. I don't wanna fight over a stinkin' wedge. If anything it oughta be somethin' worthwhile! hehehe

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                            • Greetings,

                              Hey Spike,Ive never seen anyone as helpful as you get so much flack over their analysis.I'm glad you started your own blog,maybe folks who appreciate your talent can correspond with you there.

                              I myself have learned more from you than any book or service,books are written ''post mortem'',and services charge whether you win or lose.

                              I didn't mean to get in the middle of this thread,but really don't want to see Spike lose his interest here.

                              cordially Tom

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                              • same dog this week

                                Rob,
                                Give me the same dog, VCLK long this week, to get my money back.

                                Thanks,
                                Anthony

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