Guys, for starters, there's no double top. On TYX the 1999 high was 6.73% and the 2003 high was 5.495%. Secondly, the descending triangle forecasts lower rates, not higher rates.
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TYX is the symbol for the 30 year bond Yield. (see $TYX at stockcharts.com).Originally posted by DStecklerGuys, for starters, there's no double top. On TYX the 1999 high was 6.73% and the 2003 high was 5.495%. Secondly, the descending triangle forecasts lower rates, not higher rates.
TNX is the symbol for the 10 year note Yield. (see $TNX at stockcharts.com).
The discussion is about the Price of the 10 year bond, not the yield.Tim - Retired Problem Solver
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Be a little more flexible dude. The rule with double tops is the prices have to be 'roughly equal'. Patterns are relative to the volatility that surrounds the price action. I'm happy calling a double top. I don't insist you have to think so, and you really should consider adding the words "in my opinion" to your criticisms.Originally posted by DSteckler...there's no double top. On TYX the 1999 high was 6.73% and the 2003 high was 5.495%....
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You may be discussing price but NB was discussing yield. He projected an 8% yield on the 10-Year.Originally posted by mimo_100TYX is the symbol for the 30 year bond Yield. (see $TYX at stockcharts.com).
TNX is the symbol for the 10 year note Yield. (see $TNX at stockcharts.com).
The discussion is about the Price of the 10 year bond, not the yield.
I was looking at the 30, not the 10. D'oh! Thanks for correcting me on that.
The monthly triangle breakout on TYX projects out to just under 6%.
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Sure thing RL. I'm re-organizing all the stuff on Creme, and currently working on a blog where I can really have a simple way to find the rules, and info for each of them, the summary, the system performance etcetera. I aim to be much more organized with all of my stuff and people will be able to simply click a link I'll put in my signature that will take them to all that info. I'll get back to you on it and post here.Originally posted by RLSpike can you post your rules for the Creme of The Crop I can not locate them as always thanks much
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Spike, 6.73% and 5.495% aren't anywhere close to roughly equal; they're 22% apart. Double tops/bottoms need to be within 3% of each other to be statistically significant. Bulkowski talks about this in his books on chart patterns.Originally posted by spikefaderBe a little more flexible dude. The rule with double tops is the prices have to be 'roughly equal'. Patterns are relative to the volatility that surrounds the price action. I'm happy calling a double top. I don't insist you have to think so, and you really should consider adding the words "in my opinion" to your criticisms.
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Greetings Spike,
Sorry to bug ya again,would you consider a read on HTE?IM in at an average price of 28.72,and it appears to be struggling to break 30,as soon as it gets bought,sell orders come flyin.Do you see a whisper?
cordially Tom
BTW BEL 4.65 as I type,nxt stop mid 5s?
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Humbly and creatively disagree. But you're a stickler for rules, we know that heheheOriginally posted by DStecklerSpike, 6.73% and 5.495% aren't anywhere close to roughly equal; they're 22% apart. Double tops/bottoms need to be within 3% of each other to be statistically significant. Bulkowski talks about this in his books on chart patterns.
I'll let the charts speak for themselves. Readers can decide if they like the interpretation or not.

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Careful with HTE....not lookin strong to me. Good luck! Yep, BEL. 5.15 and 6.35 next stops for BEL? In a 3 up.....not sure, don't have time now to look at it again. I'll update eod. Good luck!Originally posted by TFredGreetings Spike,
Sorry to bug ya again,would you consider a read on HTE?IM in at an average price of 28.72,and it appears to be struggling to break 30,as soon as it gets bought,sell orders come flyin.Do you see a whisper?
cordially Tom
BTW BEL 4.65 as I type,nxt stop mid 5s?
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Yes
My understanding is that if the 10 yr note falls to 102 from the current level of 108, then interest rates that one would pay for borrowing money would be around 8% from the current level of about 4.75 prime.Originally posted by mimo_100I understood NB to mean that at a price of 102 on TY,
the yield would be around 8%.
Tim
I also understand that if you buy a 105 NOV put, and it moves on down to 102, then we are looking at a price of $30,000 -$725 put cost=profit of $29,275
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You are saying that the prime rate would move to 8%, not the yield on the 10 year note, right? WHEW!Originally posted by New-born babyMy understanding is that if the 10 yr note falls to 102 from the current level of 108, then interest rates that one would pay for borrowing money would be around 8% from the current level of about 4.75 prime. <snip>
TimTim - Retired Problem Solver
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