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  • Massimo
    Member
    • Sep 2012
    • 49

    Thanks for the response Riverbabe....

    I am playing this one in the short term with the anticipation of investors coming into this play with the upcoming ADCOM meeting.

    Not pumping, I look for bottom bouncer plays.
    Sometimes they work (look at Pure today) and sometimes they don't(NAVB)
    for me.

    Cheers!

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    • billyjoe
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2003
      • 9014

      River, This could be classified as obscure trivia but I think you'll find it interesting. I was listening to songs on youtube and somehow was linked to music from Dani Harrison, lookalike son of George. Most people don't realize that young Harrison is an intellectual powerhouse. He has a degree from Brown University in Physics and Industrial Design and worked as an aerodynamicist before deciding to devote most of his time to music. His connection to biotechnology is his marriage to Solveig Karadottir, daughter of Kari Stefansson, Icelandic founder of deCode genetics, now owned by Amgen. Maybe you already knew this , but it is news to me.


      ---------------------billy

      Young Harrison was feeling good about himself and while talking with his father George, said " I'm 23 and just got my degree. What were you doing at 23" George thought for awhile then said " I'd just completed Sgt. Pepper, my 8th album with the Beatles" Dani said he just dropped his head.
      Last edited by billyjoe; 01-27-2013, 05:13 PM. Reason: quote

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      • riverbabe
        Senior Member
        • May 2005
        • 3373

        Billy, didn't know this. Have definitely heard of deCode though. Didn't they just get bought out, or something? Here's some trivia for you. When I visited Iceland I was amazed to see that their telephone book listings are by FIRST name! So, Solveig would be listed under S as Solveig Karadottir (Kara's daughter) or as Solveig Johannsdottir(?) and her brother (if she had one) would be listed under G as Gustav Johansson(?) or Gustav Karasson(?). Go figure!

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        • billyjoe
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2003
          • 9014

          River, Amgen bought deCode. A friend of mine is a pilot out of Dallas. He married an Icelandic girl. Must have been quite a weather shock. She told me an Icelander is not allowed to take any possessions out of the country. This was 30 years ago. Also the Icelandic language is one of the most difficult to learn. Saw a story about a savant that learned the language in a week or less. Experts said it was impossible.

          ----------------billy

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          • riverbabe
            Senior Member
            • May 2005
            • 3373

            Originally posted by billyjoe View Post
            River, Amgen bought deCode. A friend of mine is a pilot out of Dallas. He married an Icelandic girl. Must have been quite a weather shock. She told me an Icelander is not allowed to take any possessions out of the country. This was 30 years ago. Also the Icelandic language is one of the most difficult to learn. Saw a story about a savant that learned the language in a week or less. Experts said it was impossible.

            ----------------billy
            Another piece of trivia -- Iceland is a whole island of hot springs, geysirs, steamy landscape, perfect for the lichens that almost completely cover the volcanic rock. Iceland is actually GREEN. Greenland, on the other hand, is (was) completely covered with ice & snow year round. Who messed up the names of these countries? More trivia -- the best way to travel around there is by local bus. Being German, I could pass for a native Icelander. So, waiting at the bus stop, people would come up to me and ask me questions in Icelandic! I would stammer out "I'm sorry..." and they would profusely apologize in Icelandic. Unintelligible!

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            • riverbabe
              Senior Member
              • May 2005
              • 3373

              30% more drug approvals

              A sharp increase in drug approvals and mergers and acquisitions combined to create a bull market for the Biotechnology Industry in 2012. The iShares NASDAQ Biotechnology Index , the SPDR S&P Biotech ETF ...

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              • Louetta
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2003
                • 2331

                R.B.: For many moons I have followed the picks of Longitude Capital (family connection). Got a few good picks (e.g. AMRN and JAZZ). Now I see they have a 13% stake in ESPR. I can't see it. Would be interested in any thoughts you may have on ESPR.

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                • billyjoe
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 9014

                  Louetta, http://beta.fool.com/maholder/2013/0...gyholnk0000001

                  Maybe they're counting on an aging population with LDL cholesterol problems. Mrs. billy says LDL is the big thing doctors seem to be focusing on in heart health these days.

                  -------------------------billy

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                  • riverbabe
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2005
                    • 3373

                    Wow. I don't see it either, Lou, in anything I have just read. It sounds very high risk. Could the financiers just be pumping it after the IPO? In that case there might be a short term pop. But, it's years from iffy FDA approval(?) and burning cash on what might be a pipe dream after 5 years of trying and even Pfizer backed away. If it were me, I'd wait for some kind of real scientific catalyst to push it higher. Keep an eye on it for "upcoming" announcements of potentially "good" trial results and sell on run up before actual results reported. But don't hold your breath.



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                    • Louetta
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 2331

                      Originally posted by riverbabe View Post
                      Wow. I don't see it either, Lou, in anything I have just read. It sounds very high risk. Could the financiers just be pumping it after the IPO? In that case there might be a short term pop. But, it's years from iffy FDA approval(?) and burning cash on what might be a pipe dream after 5 years of trying and even Pfizer backed away. If it were me, I'd wait for some kind of real scientific catalyst to push it higher. Keep an eye on it for "upcoming" announcements of potentially "good" trial results and sell on run up before actual results reported. But don't hold your breath.



                      http://seekingalpha.com/article/1507...c?source=yahoo
                      Thank you. CADX is another I got from Longitude. Stock's been doing OK lately and tho they are still losing money they are doing better.

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                      • Duniyo
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 199

                        Riverbabe, what you think of KERX? I mention few years back, it looks promising company.

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                        • riverbabe
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2005
                          • 3373

                          Originally posted by Duniyo View Post
                          Riverbabe, what you think of KERX? I mention few years back, it looks promising company.
                          Hi Duniyo. Been away a few days, sorry. I don't follow $KERX, but there is mild (not major) interest on twitter, mainly because the pps has fallen back from a rise when the results of the Phase 3 trial of Zerenex came out around Nov. 6th. Differences of opinion on going long or short at this point. Major upcoming catalyst is an FDA PDUFA date of June 7, 2014, so you may see a speculative run-up ahead of that. (I forbid you to hold through that decision! )

                          Adam Feuerstein's last article (thestreet.com) does NOT support KERX. He was right all along on AMRN and I really got stung on that one.

                          In response to a question "have you changed your mind about KERX now?", he wrote "No. I still believe investors are significantly under-estimating the risks involved with Keryx Pharmaceuticals (KERX_). I'm not surprised to see Keryx shares higher following the release of the Zerenex pre-dialysis kidney disease data this week. Keryx today is where Amarin (AMRN_) was 18 months ago before reality set in and the stock blew up. The two companies are very similar.

                          Keryx has weak intellectual property protection for Zerenex and isn't likely to receive the market exclusivity or patent term extensions it needs. These are important issues I wrote about last March and are still very much in play.

                          Keryx CEO Ron Bentsur has shifted his position and now insists he can market Zerenex on its own. What this tells me is partners are scared off by the patent and market exclusivity issues.

                          I told you, Keryx is Amarin redux.

                          Did you know Keryx isn't alone developing an iron-based phosphate binder?Vifor Pharma, a unit of Galenica Group, has already submitted its own iron-based phosphate binder PA21 for FDA approval. The expected approval decision date is Dec. 1.

                          PA21 was developed in partnership with Fresenius Medical Care, which controls about one-third of the kidney dialysis market. If PA21 is approved, Fresenius isn't likely to put its own iron-based phosphate binder on the shelf in favor of Zerenex. That leaves Keryx in the difficult position of negotiating with Davita (DVA_), the other large dialysis service provider without much leverage.

                          Another interesting wrinkle: PA21 was designed specifically so the iron is not absorbed by the body, which means there is no effect on iron stores, hemoglobin or anemia. This is not a bug, but a feature of PA21.

                          Keryx will have you believe dialysis providers are clamoring for Zerenex because its iron is absorbed by the body and therefore has positive effects on hemoglobin and anemia and reduces utilization of IV irons.

                          Yet Fresenius chose PA21, even though Zerenex has been around forever.

                          Lastly, there's this week's study results in which Keryx re-packages Zerenex for kidney disease patients not yet on dialysis. [A much larger commercial market than kidney dialysis.] Now, Zerenex is no longer a phosphate binder, it's an alternative iron therapy! Why? Because FDA won't approve phosphate binders in non-dialysis kidney disease patients without positive outcomes data. Genzyme went down this route with its phosphate binder Renagel but failed. I see no reason to expect a better ending for Keryx and Zerenex."

                          Adam is not often wrong. Also see someone's trading plan (below).

                          Last edited by riverbabe; 11-21-2013, 11:09 AM.

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                          • Duniyo
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 199

                            Thanks for the detailed analysis. I don't like holding to any biotech after FDA approval, many of them fail. SOMX, XNPT, AMRN, DNDN, HGSi , etc.

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                            • Louetta
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 2331

                              RB,

                              A person asked me over Thanksgiving dinner to provide an opinion on ALNY. It does appear they have some potentially promising candidates early in the pipeline.

                              I would appreciate any analysis you might offer.

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                              • riverbabe
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2005
                                • 3373

                                Originally posted by Louetta View Post
                                RB,

                                A person asked me over Thanksgiving dinner to provide an opinion on ALNY. It does appear they have some potentially promising candidates early in the pipeline.

                                I would appreciate any analysis you might offer.
                                Alnylam (al-NIGH-lam) is an orphan-drug biopharmaceutical company with headquarters in the constellation ORION (see home page, LOL). Headquarters is visible from planet Earth as the center star of Orion's belt! A subsidiary on the planet Earth in the Milky Way galaxy is located in Cambridge, Mass. The company's pipeline drugs are based on a new technology using RNAi (RNA interference). For those of you all who do not have an advanced degree in biochem or other biotech sciences, don't throw in the towel just yet. What is important here is that they have a good pipeline of products with some success in Phase 2 studies. They are currently enrolling at least one Phase 3 study. http://www.alnylam.com/Programs-and-Pipeline/index.php They have been presenting at various conferences and the latest Press Release is here: http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix....479&highlight=

                                They have lots and lots of issued patents and pending patents all over the world: http://www.alnylam.com/Intellectual-...view/index.php and http://www.alnylam.com/Intellectual-...tate/index.php They are also well represented by major pharma as research and development partners.

                                In short, as Lou said, they are a promising early development baby biotech. They sort of remind me of BMRN and AMRN early on. And we all know that BMRN is doing well and AMRN just crashed and burned. So ya pays yer money and takes yer chances. OR you can bet the short term pops whenever they schedule another conference to report more good results. OR you can wait a few years for terrific results from the Phase 3 study and then bet on a run up to an FDA PDUFA date or European approval. OR big excited takeover rumors and another short term pop.

                                I wish I were 25 again with a load of money and a lifetime to wait. Not to mention could take the risks involved in any baby biotech's evolution. Also wish I could have a clearer view of Orion's belt to see what's in the stars for ALNY.

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