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  • BlueWolf
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2009
    • 1077

    I’m Flat. I sold everything today!

    Originally posted by Louetta View Post
    BlueWolf, at this time US futures are up across the board about 2/3rds of 1% which, of course, could change by tomorrow or the day after. Nevertheless, at one point we talked a little about hedging rather than selling, e.g. shorting or buying puts on individual stocks or maybe on QQQ. What are your thoughts on this kind of an approach in this circumstance?
    Hi Louetta,

    I know that buying index puts is a popular technique that a lot of funds use to hedge their long portfolios, but I’ve never been a big fan of the technique. I don’t like eroding profits with the put premiums and I don’t find the puts generate enough income to offset a hard correction if I try to trade rather than exercise them. That’s just me. It’s a viable strategy that is used by many traders. I’m a chart guy, so I trade in and out.

    Speaking of which, as of today ... I AM FLAT! As soon a I saw the indices reversing this morning, I sold everything. I had thought about doing some selective selling, but I don’t like what I was seeing in the indices. Once again there is a divergence in the three indices. The Dow, in particular, has turned nasty and has rapidly reached bearish Fibonacci retrace levels. The NASDAQ is currently showing a huge bearish engulfing bar. There’s a foul wind afoot. I had said on previous occasions that I didn’t see any reason why we should be headed into a recession any time soon. I was basing that largely on economic indicators. What I failed to consider, however, is that nastiest of recessions are usually triggered by some world event, i.e. 9/11, the banking collapse, etc. Right now, we are in the midst of such a world event as the Corona/Virus is spreading and economies are starting to be affected. So I made a command decision here, to sit it out while I wait to see how bad this gets. If things turn bullish again, I’ll buy back in. I still like almost all of the companies I was holding. For now, however, I don’t want to be caught in the middle of bearish cascade.

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    • Louetta
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2003
      • 2331

      Interesting day. Almost all of my preferreds are down. One might think that with treasuries at new lows people might seek out preferreds to get a little more yield. Also Russell 2000 down the most of the averages. To the extent that small caps operate in the US, as opposed to big internationals, one might think doings overseas might hurt them less.

      Some folks are recommending KR and WMT whereas people still have to eat. They say 1/2 of Walmart's business is groceries. Reminds me time to put a roaster in the oven.

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      • BlueWolf
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2009
        • 1077

        Round 2 Investment Performance (Part 1)

        I’ve compiled figures on my round 2 investments. I did manage to beat the S&P, although I would have liked to have hit 15% total return. Still, I’m happy with a 12.75% return over a 5 1/2 month total holding period. Now that I am out of the market, I will start building my round 3 watchlist, and I will start adding back positions when I feel the market is showing signs of bullishness again.

        Here are the performance figures, part 1 (Note: I will have to post this in two separate messages because of text limits):


        Stock
        Date
        Purchase Price
        Date Closed
        Current or Closing Price
        Position Size
        Effective Gain/Loss


        Closed
        Positions


        AAPL 09/09/2019 $214.69 02/25/2020 $298.50 1 39.04%
        AAXN 09/06/2019 $62.11 02/25/2020 $82.48 1 32.80%
        ABMD 09/06/2019 $191.29 01/15/2020 $172.87 0.5 -4.81%
        ABMD 09/06/2019 $191.29 02/25/2020 $162.41 0.5 -7.55%
        AMZN 09/06/2019 $1,833.65 02/25/2020 $2,003.37 1 9.26%
        ANET 09/06/2019 $235.10 11/04/2019 $190.56 1 -18.95%
        ANET 02/14/2020 $218.40 02/25/2020 $210.12 1 -3.79%
        APPN 10/25/2019 $43.84 02/25/2020 $45.90 1 4.70%
        AYX 09/12/2019 $116.76 02/25/2020 $132.44 2 26.86%
        BIDU 09/10/2019 $107.53 02/03/2020 $131.98 0.5 11.37%
        BIDU 09/10/2019 $107.73 02/25/2020 $126.07 0.5 8.51%
        CGNX 10/31/2019 $51.55 02/25/2020 $48.21 0.5 -3.24%
        CRSP 02/13/2020 $58.16 02/25/2020 $50.75 0.5 -6.37%
        CRWD 09/17/2019 $70.33 10/30/2019 $50.30 0.5 -14.24%
        DDOG 11/25/2019 $43.37 02/25/2020 $43.74 1 0.85%
        DOCU 09/25/2019 $62.20 02/25/2020 $86.12 0.5 19.23%
        EDIT 09/06/2019 $25.07 02/25/2020 $23.25 1 -7.26%
        EEFT 10/04/2019 $148.69 02/19/2020 $144.35 0.5 -1.46%
        EPAM 10/03/2019 $179.00 02/25/2020 $222.11 1 24.08%
        ESTC 11/05/2019 $75.19 02/13/2020 $72.12 1 -4.08%
        ETSY 11/27/2019 $44.41 02/25/2020 $50.78 1 14.34%
        FB 09/19/2019 $190.10 02/25/2020 $201.01 0.5 2.87%
        FICO 09/17/2019 $316.60 02/25/2020 $402.79 0.5 13.61%
        FSLY 09/11/2019 $32.74 10/21/2019 $22.71 0.5 -15.32%
        FSLY 01/06/2020 $21.76 02/25/2020 $19.75 1 -9.24%
        GH 09/12/2019 $77.34 02/25/2020 $77.23 1 -0.14%
        HUBS 01/02/2020 $162.10 02/25/2020 $178.46 0.5 5.05%
        IIPR 09/11/2019 $88.85 10/15/2019 $79.53 0.5 -5.24%
        INSP 10/24/2019 $57.35 02/25/2020 $79.74 1 39.04%
        ISRG 09/11/2019 $518.00 02/25/2020 $577.99 1 11.58%
        LVGO 12/16/2019 $26.85 02/25/2020 $26.83 0.5 -0.04%
        LYV 09/06/2019 $71.43 02/25/2020 $67.96 1 -4.86%

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        • BlueWolf
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2009
          • 1077

          Round 2 Investments (Part 2)

          Here are the performance figures, part 2:

          Stock
          Date
          Purchase Price
          Date Closed
          Current or Closing Price
          Position Size
          Effective Gain/Loss


          Closed
          Positions


          MA 09/25/2019 $272.22 02/25/2020 $315.97 0.5 8.04%
          MDB 09/10/2019 $130.63 02/25/2020 $152.85 2 34.02%
          MELI 09/11/2019 $568.00 02/25/2020 $681.84 2 40.08%
          MTCH 09/12/2019 $76.60 02/25/2020 $69.12 1 -9.77%
          NTNX 10/25/2019 $28.07 02/25/2020 $35.93 1 28.00%
          NVCR 09/11/2019 $79.07 02/25/2020 $80.56 1 1.88%
          NVDA 09/06/2019 $177.93 02/25/2020 $267.15 1 50.14%
          NVTA 02/10/2020 $23.16 02/25/2020 $21.28 0.5 -4.06%
          OKTA 09/10/2019 $108.22 02/25/2020 $125.33 1 15.81%
          OLLI 10/28/2019 $65.58 01/10/2020 $58.63 0.5 -5.30%
          OLLI 10/28/2019 $65.58 02/10/2020 $48.76 0.5 -12.82%
          PANW 09/06/2019 $216.28 02/25/2020 $199.34 1 -7.83%
          PING 02/19/2020 $26.44 02/25/2020 $24.69 0.5 -3.31%
          RDFN 02/03/2020 $24.69 02/25/2020 $31.18 0.5 13.14%
          ROKU 09/11/2019 $146.64 02/25/2020 $115.46 1 -21.26%
          RVLV 09/11/2019 $25.08 10/22/2019 $21.50 0.5 -7.14%
          SFIX 09/10/2019 $20.48 02/25/2020 $26.89 0.5 15.65%
          SHOP 09/11/2019 $342.47 02/25/2020 $487.53 1 42.36%
          SMAR 10/24/2019 $38.46 02/25/2020 $45.28 1 17.73%
          TDOC 09/06/2019 $62.80 02/25/2020 $113.21 2 160.54%
          TEAM 09/12/2019 $125.46 02/25/2020 $144.66 2 30.61%
          TREX 09/06/2019 $87.57 02/25/2020 $106.04 2 42.18%
          TTD 09/12/2019 $218.09 02/25/2020 $279.55 2 56.36%
          TTWO 09/06/2019 $131.97 02/25/2020 $113.67 1 -13.87%
          TWLO 10/28/2019 $106.92 02/25/2020 $114.64 1 7.22%
          VEEV 09/11/2019 $145.44 02/25/2020 $151.43 2 8.24%
          WIX 10/03/2019 $119.78 02/25/2020 $134.68 0.5 6.22%
          WORK 02/13/2020 $26.59 02/25/2020 $27.49 0.5 1.69%
          ZEN 09/11/2019 $77.35 02/25/2020 $83.42 2 15.69%
          ZM 10/30/2019 $69.76 02/25/2020 $108.12 1 54.99%
          ZM 01/15/2020 $74.85 02/25/2020 $108.12 1 44.45%
          ZS 09/18/2019 $52.04 02/25/2020 $50.66 0.5 -1.33%
          Closed Positions Total Gain/Loss 764.97% Num Positions 60 Avg Gain/Loss 12.75%
          S&P 09/06/2019 $2,888.64 Closing $3,128.21 S&P Gain/Loss 8.29%

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          • BlueWolf
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2009
            • 1077

            New Long Term (LT) Watchlist

            Since I’m totally in cash, I rebuilt my long term watch list to prepare for rebuilding my portfolio when I feel the time is right for buying again. One thing about corrections like this is that when they are done, they make for excellent buying opportunities. Billyjoe posted an excellent quote by Warren Buffet about this. I am currently doing more deep dive research so my watchlist will be evolving quite a bit over the next few weeks, but I will post updates. On another note, I will dispense with underling stocks for which I have writeups. This is because I simply don’t have time to do any more writeups, at least right now, although I will be glad to share my thoughts on any stocks on my list that you ask about. Finally, all of the stocks on watchlist are technically new, so I didn’t bother bolding them this time around. I will bold additions from here on out.

            So here are my current LT lists:

            Current Positions:
            **None**

            Current Watchlist:
            AAPL, AAXN, ABMD, ADBE, AMT, AMZN, ANET, APPF, APPN, ATVI, AYX, BIDU, BILI, BRK/B, BZUN, CGNX, CRM, CRNC, CRSP, CRWD, DDOG, DOCU, EDIT, EEFT, EPAM, ESTC, ETSY, EVBG, EXPI, FB, FICO, FLGT, FRPT, FSLY, FVRR, GH, HCAT, HQY, HUBS, IIPR, INSP, ISRG, KNSL, LITE, LVGO, LYV, MA, MDB, MDLA, MELI, MNST, MSFT, MTCH, NEE, NTNX, NVCR, NVDA, NVTA, OKTA, OLLI, PANW, PING, PYPL, QTWO, RDFN, RGEN, ROKU, RVLV, SFIX, SHOP, SMAR, SPCE, SPLK, SWAV, TDOC, TEAM, TLRA, TREX, TSLA, TTD, TTWO, TWLO, VEEV, WIX, WORK, ZEN, ZM, ZS

            Bold = New Stock or Altered Position
            (.5)= 1/2 Position
            (2) = Double Position

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            • Louetta
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2003
              • 2331

              Interesting list. ADBE MSFT PYPL good new names. SPCE now cut in half from the high.
              Last edited by Louetta; 02-27-2020, 11:24 AM.

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              • BlueWolf
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2009
                • 1077

                I already started reloading a few stocks. In truth, I probably shouldn’t have sold these particular stocks in the first place since they showed strength in the face of market weakness. I also added two new stocks to my watchlist, SQ and DAVA. SQ is an oldie but goodie that I became a little discouraged with in Round 1, but I feel it’s time to take another look.

                So, we are off to the races for Round 3:

                Current LT Positions:
                DDOG, DOCU, ETSY, INSP, ZM

                Current LT Watchlist:
                AAPL, AAXN, ABMD, ADBE, AMT, AMZN, ANET, APPF, APPN, ATVI, AYX, BIDU, BILI, BRK/B, BZUN, CGNX, CRM, CRNC, CRSP, CRWD, DAVA, EDIT, EEFT, EPAM, ESTC, EVBG, EXPI, FB, FICO, FLGT, FRPT, FSLY, FVRR, GH, HCAT, HQY, HUBS, IIPR, ISRG, KNSL, LITE, LVGO, LYV, MA, MDB, MDLA, MELI, MNST, MSFT, MTCH, NEE, NTNX, NVCR, NVDA, NVTA, OKTA, OLLI, PANW, PING, PYPL, QTWO, RDFN, RGEN, ROKU, RVLV, SFIX, SHOP, SMAR, SPCE, SPLK, SQ, SWAV, TDOC, TEAM, TLRA, TREX, TSLA, TTD, TTWO, TWLO, VEEV, WIX, WORK, ZEN, ZS


                Bold = New Stock or Altered Position
                (.5)= 1/2 Position
                (2) = Double Position

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                • Louetta
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 2331

                  Bought a smidge of AAPL, MSFT, ADBE, AMZN, MA. All seem like nice long term holdings, all down at least 10%.

                  Also bought some SPCE. Chairman Chamath Palihapitiya talked about it yesterday on CNBC and convinced me it might work. He was an early TSLA investor. Early in the day SPCE was down over 50% from it's all time high though I paid more than the 50%.

                  Also put some money into mutual funds BFOCX, BGSAX and LDVAX, my best perfomers recently and all with good records for multiple years. Have to pay a 2% fee if sold in less than 90 days but have enough old money in these so I can sell those shares for free and balance out if this turns into a fiasco.

                  Reasons for buying today were the money coming into stocks and out of bonds at mid day.
                  Last edited by Louetta; 02-27-2020, 02:12 PM. Reason: coherence

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                  • BlueWolf
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 1077

                    Originally posted by Louetta View Post
                    Bought a smidge of AAPL, MSFT, ADBE, AMZN, MA. All seem like nice long term holdings, all down at least 10%.

                    Also bought some SPCE. Chairman Chamath Palihapitiya talked about it yesterday on CNBC and convinced me it might work. He was an early TSLA investor. Early in the day SPCE was down over 50% from it's all time high though I paid more than the 50%.

                    Also put some money into mutual funds BFOCX, BGSAX and LDVAX, my best perfomers recently and all with good records for multiple years. Have to pay a 2% fee if sold in less than 90 days but have enough old money in these so I can sell those shares for free and balance out if this turns into a fiasco.

                    Reasons for buying today were the money coming into stocks and out of bonds at mid day.
                    Good choices, Louetta. SPCE intrigues me, but I have no clue as to value it or determine is growth. Still, something in me wants to dabble in that one. Good luck with it.

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                    • Louetta
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 2331

                      Originally posted by BlueWolf View Post
                      Good choices, Louetta. SPCE intrigues me, but I have no clue as to value it or determine is growth. Still, something in me wants to dabble in that one. Good luck with it.

                      We talked about that briefly before. Yesterday Palihapitiya talked about the expected revenues, though not the costs. That and the fact it was down more than 50% convinced me to give it a try, plus the fact he was right about TSLA. I did look at the (SPCE) 10Qs and there are all sorts of arrangements about warrants and stuff which made me think maybe it was all carefully arranged to make a few people a lot of money. We'll see.

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                      • BlueWolf
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 1077

                        If you want to see another interesting recent IPO, take a look at SDGR. Citron Research is really in love with this stock as a long. They apparently sell physics-based software to the pharma market that can be used to research novel molecules for use in drug development. That makes them unique because they’re not tied to any single drug or set of drugs which means they get broad exposure across the entire pharma industry. The one thing that gives me pause is their growth story, which has certainly been good, but not spectacular. Think I’ll add it to my watch list and keep an eye on it at the very least.

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                        • Louetta
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 2331

                          Thought the current situation might provide an entry to BRK-B. Down 9.5% recently while SPY is down 12.1%. Buffett said in his Monday CNBC interview that they should outperform in a bear market so there's a tad of a safety net.

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                          • BlueWolf
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2009
                            • 1077

                            Originally posted by Louetta View Post
                            Thought the current situation might provide an entry to BRK-B. Down 9.5% recently while SPY is down 12.1%. Buffett said in his Monday CNBC interview that they should outperform in a bear market so there's a tad of a safety net.
                            BRK-B is one that I’ve had my eye on for a while for an entry, and it’s certainly looking more attractive at current levels. If he means that BRK-B will lose less money than the indices, however, I’m not in for that. That sounds like something my Schwab broker would sell me. “As you can see, this fund only lost 23% in value while the S&P dropped 34%.” 😉 I like to be net positive at all times, if at all possible, but it’s very difficult in a long term bear market. In a short term bear market, it pays to just wait for the bottom and then buy on the way back up. You get great entries that way, like I did in December, 2018 after that short term bear market. AMT, BRK-B and MSFT are three stocks in particular, I’d love to get good entries into.

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                            • BlueWolf
                              Senior Member
                              • Jun 2009
                              • 1077

                              Feb 28, 2020 Portfolio & Watchlist

                              I did quite a bit of trading this morning, creeping my way back into the market. I will be doing more trading in the days to come provided the market doesn’t make a another leg down, in which case I will be fastening my seatbelt since I have a healthy stake again.

                              Louetta, I joined you with a half position in SPCE. It’s an intriguing and I thought I’d take a half position to get some skin in the game.

                              Here are my latest positions and newest watchlist:

                              Current LT Positions:
                              AAPL, ANET, AYX, CGNX(.5), DDOG, DOCU, EDIT, ETSY, FICO(.5), INSP, LYV, MDB, MSFT, NVDA, SDGR(.5), SHOP, SPCE(.5), TTD, ZM, ZS(.5)

                              Current LT Watchlist:
                              AAXN, ABMD, ADBE, AMT, AMZN, APPF, APPN, ATVI, BIDU, BILI, BRK/B, BZUN, CRM, CRNC, CRSP, CRWD, DAVA, EEFT, EPAM, ESTC, EVBG, EXPI, FB, FLGT, FRPT, FSLY, FVRR, GH, HCAT, HQY, HUBS, IIPR, ISRG, KNSL, LITE, LVGO, MA, MDLA, MELI, MNST, MTCH, NEE, NTNX, NVCR, NVTA, OKTA, OLLI, PANW, PING, PYPL, QTWO, RDFN, RGEN, ROKU, RVLV, SFIX, SMAR, SPLK, SQ, SWAV, TDOC, TEAM, TLRA, TREX, TSLA, TTWO, TWLO, VEEV, WIX, WORK, ZEN


                              Bold
                              = New Stock or Altered Position

                              (.5)= 1/2 Position
                              (2) = Double Position

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                              • BlueWolf
                                Senior Member
                                • Jun 2009
                                • 1077

                                March 2, 2020 Portfolio & Watchlist

                                I added quite a few positions today, which put me about 2/3 in. I’ll be slowing down now as I (anxiously) await the next moves by the market. A few of the stocks I own. Have earnings coming up and I wanted to be in them beforehand. We’ll see how it pans out.

                                Here are my latest positions and newest watchlist:

                                Current LT Positions:
                                AAPL, AAXN, AMT, ANET, APPN, AYX, CGNX(.5), CRM(.5), CRWD(.5), DDOG, DOCU, EDIT, EEFT(.5), ETSY, FICO(.5), FLGT(.5), IIPR(.5), INSP, ISRG, LVGO(.5), LYV, MA(.5), MDB, MELI, MSFT(.5), MTCH, NVCR, NVDA, NVTA, OKTA, PING(.5), RDFN(.5), SDGR(.5), SHOP, SMAR, SPCE(.5), TDOC, TEAM, TTD, TWLO, VEEV, WD(.5), WIX(.5), ZEN, ZM, ZS(.5)

                                Current LT Watchlist:
                                ABMD, ADBE, AMZN, APPF, ATVI, BIDU, BILI, BRK/B, BZUN, CRNC, CRSP, DAVA, EPAM, ESTC, EVBG, EXPI, FB, FRPT, FSLY, FVRR, GH, HCAT, HQY, HUBS, KNSL, LITE, MDLA, MNST, NEE, NTNX, OLLI, PANW, PYPL, QTWO, RGEN, ROKU, RVLV, SFIX, SPLK, SQ, SWAV, TLRA, TREX, TSLA, TTWO, WORK

                                Bold
                                = New Stock or Altered Position

                                (.5)= 1/2 Position
                                (2) = Double Position
                                Last edited by BlueWolf; 03-03-2020, 04:25 PM.

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